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10-08-1985 PLANNING AND ZONING~MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session on Tuesday, October 8, 1985 in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Live Oak Road. Members present were as follows: PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF BOB ANDREWS, VICE-CHAIRMAN STEVE SIMONSON, PLANNING COORDINATOR JAMES HARDEN, SECRETARY NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECRETARY MERWIN WILLMAN TOM DOVEY, CITY INSPECTOR TY BRISGILL DAVID ALLEN OTHERS PRESENT DONALD WILSON KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN ELDON BAKER, NPC ROGER MEDINA, HENRY BAIN ENGINEERS MEMBERS ABSENT CARL BAIN, HENRY BAIN ENGINEERS RICK SPEAKS, SCHOOLCRAFT REALTY THOMAS YARLING, CHAIRMAN C.P. VAUGHAN, VAUGHAN HOMES JOHN JACK, STRASBERGER ENTERPRISES #1 CALL TO ORDER Vice-Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session September 24, 1985 Ty Brisgill made a motion to approve the minutes. David Allen seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #3 CITIZENS' INPUT There was none. _ ' Vice-Chairman Andrews informed the Cammission that Mr. C.P. Vaughan, #6 on the agenda, also had another committment and would appreciate being next on-the agenda if it was alright with Monarch Homes (#4) and Payless (#5) on the agenda. There were no objections. #6 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Vaughan Homes, Silvertree Park Entrance Sign - FM 3009 Overlay District Mr. C.P. Vaughan, representing Vaughan Homes, described the proposed sign. He stated it would be smooth concrete block and stucco on a background of blue ceramic tile. It would also contain some aluminum trim and would be lighted. Mr. Vaughan said the sign will be based on 6' to tie in with fences at the same level. He said they will be having a water meter installed on Lot 27 in order to sprinkle. Mr. Vaughan also said they are putting in a 6" sewer pipe so the road won't have to be cut up in the future. hir. Vaughan also stated that he believed they were nat in violation of the FM 3009 Overlay Ordinance. Donald Wilson made a motion to recommend approval of the Silvertree Park Entrance Sign for Vaughan Homes provided it is as described and shown and in compliance with the FM 3009 Overlay District Ordinance. Merwin Willman seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous i~n favor. Vice-Chairman Andrews thanked Monarch and Payless for their cooperation. #4 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Monarch Homes Request for Directional Signs - FM 3009 Overlay District Vice-Chairman Andrews reminded the Commission this request was granted on a consensus basis at the September 24, 1985 meeting. Merwin Willman made a motion to recommend approval of 10 directional signs for Monarch Homes in the FM 3009 .Overlay District provided they are in compliance with the FM 3009 Overlay District Ordinance. Donald Wilson seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat and Final Piat H.T.S. 2 Subdivision (Payless) Vice-Chairman Andrews informed the Commission this plat had been presented at the September 24, 1985 meeting but was erroneous. Vice-Chairman Andrews asked if this had been staffed and Tom Dovey replied yes it had. Mr. Dovey also stated there were no comments from the Staff - John Jack, from Strasberger Enterprises repre- senting Payless, and representatives of Ford Engineering had met and ironed out a17 the problems. Mr. Jack was present to answer questions from the Commission. Merwin Willman asked if this was a preliminary and. final plat. Vice-Chairman Andrews replied yes according to the request. There was discussion on curb cuts, approaches from IH 35 and FM 1103, adjacent :property owners and utility easements. Merwin Willman asked Mr. Jack where. the utility easement is located. Vice-Chairman .Andrews asked Mr. Jack where the utilities are coming from for electric. Steve Simonson informed the Commission there is no easement necessary - water and elec- . trio are already there. There was a brief discussion on the location of the septic tank. Mr. Jack said all the requirements for the septic tank had been met. Ty Brisgill asked if a safety lane was needed. Vice-Chairman Andrews replied a safety lane would be needed in the Overlay District but not in this. David A17en made a motion to recommend approval of the Preliminary and Final Plat for H.T.S. 2 Subdivision (Payless). James Harden seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #7 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: NPC Builder's Request for Directional Signs - FM 3009 Overlay District Uice-Chairman Andrews thanked Tom Dovey for sending out the letters to developers regarding requirements in the Overlay District. Mr. Eldon Baker was at the meeting to represent NPC. David A1Ten asked Mr. Baker if he was aware of all the requirements. of the FM 3009 Overlay Ordinance. Mr. faker replied that yes he was. -David Allen made a motion to recommend approval of NPC`s request for Directional ' Signs in the FM 3009 Overlay District provided they are in accordance with the FM 3009 Overlay Ordinance. Donald k~ilson seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. r$ CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Schoolcraft Realty Development Sign - FM 3009 Vice-Chairman Andrews informed the Commission this was not a bandit sign, but rather a development sign. Mr. Rick Speaks was at the meeting to represent Schoolcraft Realty. There was some discussion an the size of the sign. The ordinance specifies that these signs will not exceed 15 square feet. The Schoolcraft sign is 32 square feet. _ Ty Brisgill questioned how this would effect Lone Star and also asked if any con- struction permits had been issued. There was discussion about the fact that Jim Shepherd Homes is in the process of bankruptcy procedures. Mr. Speaks commented that after. the court date in November, it is expected that Schoolcraft will be authorized to sell the 20 homes and 3 model homes in Woodland Oaks. There was further discussion about the fact the homes could not be sold right now and on the length of time it may take to sell them after the court decision. David Allen made a mot ion to recommend disapproval of the Schoolcraft Realty Development Sign, stating we should ask them to remove the present sign until after litigation, and then they may make another request to put up a sign provided it is in accordance with the FM 3009 Overlay District Ordinance. Merwin Willman seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. ~9 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Fina Plat Tri-County Park Unit IV Roger Medina and Carl Bain were at the meeting to represent Henry Bain Engineers • for Tri-County Park. Merwin~Willman commented that everything had now been clarified on the top sheet. Mr: Willman also stated we are looking at a vacate and replat and final plat. David A11en remarked that City Council had approved the vacate of Doerr Lane. Roger Medina commented that construction plans had been approved by the City Engineer. Merwin Willman made a motion to rQCOmmend approval of the Final Flat for Tri-County Park Unit IV. David Allen seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. X10 GENERAL DISCUSSION James Harden asked about the Tt~iL party. David Allen remarked that Schertz had the largest representation of people there and that the speaker was very enjoyable. James Harden asked when the road to Dobie Middle School was going to be open. Tam Dovey replied they had promised him it would be open in two weeks. Ken Greenwald said part of the problem had been the lowering of the gas line. David Allen commented he thought there should be a policeman at the intersection of Elbe? Road and FM 3009 until the traffic light is installed. Ty Brisgill gave each member a copy of a document called "Business Park District" which are changes to the San Antonio Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Brisgil7 commented this was part of his assignment on the Feedback List, Uice-Chairman Andrews told Mr. Brisgill the A_P.A. recommends you use an ordinance from someone who had the ordinance in court and won.' Merwin Willman said it is a good idea to use ordinances from other cities. : Donald Wilson commented he thought a letter should be sent to Gemcraft about the _ banner sign they have up without a request. Steve Simonson said he would send them a letter. Mer--win Willman commented on the public hearing scheduled for October 15, 1985 - saying he had only found out about it through the Herald Newspaper. Vice-Chairman Andrews stated he would like to have Staff comments on an item before that item is considered by the Commission. There was a br-ief discussion on this ..w. and also that some kind of time schedule needs to be set up for those turning in plats and those asking to.be on the agenda. Steve Simonson remarked that he felt there should be a cut-off date. Donald Wilson commented he thought the Commission should officially thanfc Tom Dovey for temporarily filling in as Planning Coordinator and should also officially wel- come Steve Simonson. Vice-Chairman Andrews said he agreed and also thanked Tom Dovey and welcomed Steve Simonson as the new Planning-Coordinator. Merwin Willman asked the status of the Subdivision Ordinance and the Sign Ordinance. Steve Simonson commented there was a whole stack of notes on-his desfc from the Staff on the Subdivision Ordinance. The exact status of the Sign Ordinance was not determined. Ken Greenwald thanked everyone for attending TML. Mr. Greenwald said at the City Council meeting Mr. Gilmore, City Manager, brought up the possibility of vacating Beacon Avenue in the Schertz Subdivision. Vice-Chairman Andrews commented that the drivev~ray for 204 Curtiss Avenue was off of Beacon. Ty Brisgi7l asked if there had been any discussion on the hold up of future building and building permits being issued if the first unit of a project was not up to par. Ken Greenwald replied that Mr. Gilmore was taking it to legal. Ken Greenwald reminded everyone of the Joint City Councils meeting on October 10, 1985 at the Samuel Clemens cafeteria. Ken Greenwald also stated that the next Schertz-Cibolo Joint meeting would be October 21, 1985. _ Ken Greenwald stated that Mr. Thompson and Mr. Webb from San Antonio had attended the meeting on the Schermerville annexing and deannexing. Mr. Greenwald commented that Schertz wants to annex for the frontage on IN 10 and it`s future development. Mervin Willman said he had some zoning magazines for any Commission members that were interested. There is a public hearing scheduled for October I5, 1985. The next regularly scheduled meeting is October 22, 1985. Vice-Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:32 P.M.