10-22-1985 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session on
Tuesday, October 22, 1985 in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400
Live Oak Road. Members present were as follows:
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.. OTHERS PRESENT
THOMP,S YARLING, CHAIRMAN KATHRYN ROWELL
BOB ANDREWS, VICE-CHAIRMAN hiAY ROWELL
JAMES HARDEN, SECRETARY BILL DIAL, BRENDLER & DOVE
` MERWIN WILLMAN STEVE FINCH
TY BRISGILL RICHARD & CAROL REISS
DP.VID ALLEN W.A. SCHERTZ
DONALD WILSON
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN
CITY STAFF
STEVE SIMONSON, PLANNING COORDINATOR
NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECRETARY
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Yarling called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
#2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session October 8, 1985
Special Session October 15, 1985
Ken Greenwald pointed out that in Paragraph #8 of General Discussion and in the
next to last sentence of the minutes, the date should be changed from September
22, 1985 to October 22, 1985.
Merwin Willman made a motion to approve the minutes as amended. David Allen
seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor.
#3 CITIZENS' INPUT
There was none.
#4 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Schertz Subdivision
Chairman Yarling asked if there were any comments from the Staff. Steve Simonson
replied that Jerry Graham felt with the setbacks on Lots 1 and 2 there is not
enough room for safe off-street parkiry.
There was a brief discussion on this bringing up such matters as the size of the
lots on this plat being larger than other lots, Curtiss not being busy enough for
this to create a traffic hazard, Beacon not being a finished street and whether
or not it is an alley or an easement behind Curtiss.
Steve Simonson remarked that with the exception of Mr. Graham's comments, the
Staff recommends approval.
David A71en made a motion to recommend approval of the Final Plat Schertz
Subdivision. Bob Andrews seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in
favor.
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~ #5 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Petition for Zoning .Amendment, Live Oak
Road Joint Venture No. 1
The petitioner requests the rezoning of a 14,65 acre tract of land fronting on
the north side of East Live Oak Road, approximately 497.1 feet east of Maske
Road, and approximately 2,882.3 feet west of FM 3009 from R-1 to Neighborhood
Service District.
Bill Dial of Brendler & Dove, representing Live Oak Road Joint Ven~Cure No. 1,
gave a presentation.
Mr. Dial cited four reasons for the rezoning request:
1. The proposed extension of East Live Oak Road as Schertz Boulevard.
" 2. The widening of East Live Oak Road establishing it as a major thoroughfare.
3. The future connection between E. Live Oak Road and residential developments
such as Woodland Oaks and Savannah Square.
4. With the proposed extension of East Live Oak Road, the street frontage would
be a natural location for Neighborhood Services development to serve the
interior residential communities.
Sob Andrews asked if Joint Venture is planning to develop the land or building
on the land to sell. Steve Finch, representing Joint Venture, replied they have
no plans to sell the land.
James Harden asked if they owned the land and. Mr. Finch replied yes.
David Allen asked if they have some kind of timetable. Mr. Finch replied they
would probably develop the retail in front first.
Merwin Willman commented this request meets all the requirements and could go to a
public hearing as is.
Sob Andrews remarked that it may not be in the best interest of the City - that
we already have zoning that meets the criteria.
Mr. Finch commented he thought it seemed general business would suit the community
better than more housing,
Bob Andrews said yes we need businesses, but again, we a7 ready have land zoned for
business.
James Harden commented on the possibility that East Live Oa k. Road could be commer-
cial on one side and residential on the other.
David Allen asked Bill Dial what he envisioned for the area.
Mr. Dial replied he envisioned general business at the corners and main
thoroughfare with a link between the surrounding neighborhoods and East Live
Oak Road. Mr. Dial said he also envisioned some garden offices, day care
centers, and possibly duplexes. Mr. Dial did remark, however, that current
marketing conditions would not warrant building out all at once.
Merwin Willman commented everything looked fine so far - it needs to go to a
public hearing and then after the hearing, the Commission can make it's reccom-
mendations.
Merwin Willman made a motion to recommend a scheduled public hearing fora Zoning
Amendment request by Live Oak Road Joint Venture No. 1. Bob Andrews seconded the
i motion and the vote was unanimous in favor.
#6 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Zoning Ordinance
Steve Simonson commented that he and Mr. Willman had come up with an idea they
wanted to present to the Commission. The idea is to review the ordinance chapter
by chapter - denote what the ordinance was, what you did to change it, and have
the changes typed up and a copy given to the members each time.
Merwin Willman reminded the Commission everything has to go to the lawyer and he
is expensive.
Ken Greenwald said it is fine to change if it is to improve, but not if it is just
to change.
David Allen commented you should say what you mean and mean what you say.
There was a brief discussion on including the Sign Ordinance in the Zoning Ordi-
nance. Merwin Willman said the Sign Ordinance should be separate. David Allen
did not agree.
Chairman Yarling asked the Commission to read it over and bring in their sugges-
tions at the next meeting..
Merwin Willman suggested the Commission think about what they want for the City
and forget about the developers and builders.
• Chairman Yarling said 'that Articles 1 through 4 will be covered at the next
+ meeting.
#7 GENERAL DISCUSSION
Bob Andrews asked when the road to Dobie School was going to be open.
Steve Simonson reported that Henry Gutierrez is asking permission for another
trailer at the Waste Management location on FM 3009. Mr. Simonson said it was his
understanding the City had requested Waste Management remove the other trailer
already at the same location.
There was some discussion about the ever increasing amount of junk at the Waste
Management location and how terrible it looks. Steve Simonson asked if we could
make a request that they put up some type of screening in the area to hide the
junk.
Chairman Yarling asked if the requested trailer was in conformance with the
FM 3009 Overlay Ordinance. The answer was no.
David Allen suggested they get a copy of the FM 3009 Overlay Ordinance and also
that they put their request in writing.
Ty Brisgil7 arrived at the meeting at 8:30 P.M. `
Ken Greenwald commented he had no further information on the progress of the
annexation of the Schermerville area. Mr. Greenwald also commented that some
other residents in the Graytown Road area are asking to be serviced by Schertz.
Mr. Greenwald suggested the Commission members take a drive around. the area.
Merw,in Willman commented that a lot of the area is in the AICUZ.
Chairman Yarling inquired about the restrictions in the AICUZ. Mr. Willman '
said the farther away, the less restrictions there are.
Ty Brisgill asked about the TML events scheduled for the first weekend in
November.
Ken Greenwald said there is a Halloween Party October 31 and meetings on Friday.,
Saturday and Sunday. Mr. Greenwald said it will be at the Convention Center and
there will be lots of exhibits.
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Ty Brisgill informed the Commission he will be unable to attend the November 12th
meeting.
Mervin Willman reported on the status of the Subdivision Ordinance. Mr. Willman
said Mr. Gilmore is trying to correlate the old ordinance with the proposed ordi-
nance and has asked him for his help.
Mr. Willman said there were a lot of errors and many items that could not be
correlated between the old ordinance and the proposed ordinance.
Donald Wilson asked what the solution to this was.
hlerwin Willman said the solution was to start over and do the Same as is going to
be done to rework the Zoning Ordinance.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is November 12, 1985.
Chairman Yarling adjourned the meeting at 8:54 P.M. _