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04-22-1986 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session on April 22, 1986 at 7:00 P.M, in the Municipal Complex Conference Room. Those present were as follows: PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF THOMAS YARLING, CHAIRMAN- STEVE SIMONSON, PLANNING COORDINATOR BOB ANDREWS, VICE-CHAIRMAN NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECRETARY JAMES HARDEN, SECRETARY TY BRISGILL OTHERS PRESENT DONALD WILSON KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN MIKE BARRINGER DON MCCRARY MEMBERS ABSENT MERWIN WILLMAN DAVID ALLEN #1 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Yarling called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session April 8, 1986 Ty Brisgill made a motion to approve the minutes for the regular session April 8, 1986. Bob Andrews seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS There was none. #4 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Media Concepts, Inc. (Subsidiary of Gemcraft Homes) - Request to Install a Double-Faced ` 8' x 16' Temporary Development Sign at Woodland Oaks Mike Barringer was at the meeting to represent Gemcraft. Chairman Yarling asked if the sign is irr conflict with the FM 3009 Overlay Ordinance. Steve Simonson replied no - nothing in conflict. Mr. Simonson also remarked Gem- craft is getting ready to start their second phase and will need the sign. Ty Brisgill commented the new Gemcraft model homes will be across the street from the old model homes. Mr. Brisgill said he has no problem with the requested sign. Bob Andrews made a motion to approve the request from Media Concepts, Inc. to install a double-faced 8' x 16' temporary development sign at Woodland Oaks for a time period of 75% buildout or three (3) years, whichever comes first, renewable yearly from date of issuance of sign permit. Ty Brisgill seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Donald Wilson pointed out to Mr. Barringer the reason we specify they be renewable at the end of every year is that in case the sign is not maintained, we do not renew. Steve Simonson said he would send a letter to Media Concepts, Inc. informing them of the Commission's decision. #5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Schaefer Properties - Request to Extend the Time Period for Signs Advertising Sycamore Creek Apartments No one from Schaefer Properties was present. Ken Greenwald commented the signs had been approved originally because the occu- pancy rate was very low. Bob Andrews remarked he was pleased we had a written request this time rather than a verbal request. Chairman Yarling asked if the Staff had any feedback and Steve Simonson replied no they did not. James Harden made a motion to approve. the request from Schaefer Properties to ex- ' tend the time period for signs advertising Sycamore Creek Apartments through. August, 1986. Bob Andrews seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #6 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Master Plan - Greenshire Unit I Bob Andrews commented there is one problem - Greenshire Boulevard - and that he cannot in good faith approve it with that name. Chairman Yarling asked what it is an extension of and Bob Andrews replied Woodland Oaks Drive. Chairman Yarling said we should ask them to change it .back as it was originally to Woodland Oaks Drive. Steve Simonson reminded the Commission they had asked to see a Master Plan of this before considering the final plat and this is the Master Plan. Mr. Simonson also said this has more single family dwellings and less multi-family dwellings than- . originally planned. Don McCrary was at the meeting to represent Greenshire. Mr. McCrary read the Com- mission the percentages of single family, multi-family dwellings, etc.. in .comparison to the percentages of the original plan. They were very similar. Donald Wilson stated what we have here is a Master Plan for the roadways and Don McCrary confirmed that statement. Mr. McCrary also said they have made good progress in obtaining the necessary right-of-way. Don McCrary showed the Commission an "example" Master Plan with the lots marked in. There was some discussion on how beautiful some of the lots are as far as land- scaping is concerned. Donald Wilson commented the main entrance is off FM 3009 with an alternate entrance off Green Valley Road and Don .McCrary said that is correct. Don McCrary told the Commission they would like for this to be .considered the offi- cial Master Plan. Mr. McCrary also said they. plan to get started as soon as they can get the infrastructure approved. ~2) Chairman Yarling commented that once IH 35 starts to buildout, developers will not be able to build fast enough. Bob Andrews made a motion to approve the Master Plan for Greenshire Unit I with the stipulation that the name of Greenshire Boulevard be changed to Woodland Oaks Drive and continue on out as such. Donald Wilson seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #7 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Greenshire Unit I Chairman Yarling remarked the only problem he saw was the road name - Greenshire Boulevard should be changed back to Woodland Oaks Drive. Chairman Yarling asked if the Staff had reviewed the final plat and Steve Simonson -said yes they had. Mr. Simonson also said .the construction plans will have to be reviewed. Bob Andrews pointed out that the final plat for Greenshire Unit I is only for the roadways. .Steve Simonson asked Don McCrary if they were ready to get started. Mr. McCrary replied as soon as they get together with the Planning Coordinator, Water and Waste Water Superintendent and the Fire Chief to work out any problems. Chairman Yarling asked what they're going to put across the creek and Don McCrary replied box culverts. Chairman Yarling also pointed out that FM 3009 needs to be shown as Jack Hays Boulevard and Mr. McCrary said he is aware of that. Bob Andrews made a motion to approve the Final Plat for Greenshire Unit I contingent on two name changes - Greenshire Boulevard to be changed to Woodland Oaks Drive and FM 3009 to be changed to Jack Hays Boulevard. Donald Wilson seconded the motion. Ty Brisgill interrupted to inquire if we should mention the tapered approach and Chairman Yarling said yes the motion should also contain the stipulation that the appropriate tapered approach is required. The vote was. unanimous in favor. At this time there was a short break. #8 GENERAL DISCUSSION James Harden jokingly asked Steve Simonson who could be called and complimented on the road work on FM 3009 considering it's in a complete state of disarray. Bob Andrews commented traffic had been held up for fifteen minutes waiting for one of the workers to make a U-turn. There was a brief discussion on the road work with the general feeling being it was sloppily done with poor communication between those who were doing .it and was most certainly a waste of taxpayers' money since FM 3009 is scheduled to be widened in the future. Ken Greenwald remarked that the contract was let out' long before it was known about the future widening and said maybe a letter should be sent to those in charge letting them know how we feel about the situation Ty Brisgill informed the Commission; that even though the Dobie Heights sign had been knocked down last Saturday, it was up again on Sunday. ~3) Steve Simonson said Mr. Swinney had been in to speak with him and he thought things were settled and that Mr. Swinney understood he had to come before the Planning and Zoning Commission before putting up signs. Ken Greenwald requested that.Steve'Simonson take a picture the next time before taking down a sign. Steve Simonson said it was beginning to look like we need somebody full time just to keep an eye on signs. Ty Brisgill reported he had measured the Thistle Creek sign and it is over .the size limit. Steve Simonson said he would check into it. Ty Brisgill bro`ught'up the subject again of .the road work on FM 3009 saying he had called around trying to find out who was in charge. Mr. Brisgill said Seguin told him it was not them, so then he talked to Bob Hasert at New Braunfels and was in- formed Floresville was in charge.. Mr. Brisgill said he did not call Floresville, however, he did call the company .(Wagner) and voice his complaints and concerns. They informed him all they were required to do was put up a sign. Bob Andrews asked Steve Simonson if the portable sign on Live Oak Road advertising aerobics is legal. Mr. Simonson-said he would check into it. Ken Greenwald informed the Commission that the Mayor had signed a letter which was sent to New Braunfels and to Representative Edmund Kuemple in Seguin about the Lone Star driveway cut off of FM 3009. Mr. Greenwald also informed the Commission he had received a call from Hal Baldwin and the tour of the Schermerville area i.s scheduled for Saturday, April 26, 1986. Everyone is to meet at Kountry Kitchen at 9:00 A.M. Steve Simonson said he would notify Merwin Willman and David Allen since they are absent tonight. Donald Wilson expressed his thanks at being notified of the cancellation of the Schertz Parkway meeting. Steve Simonson reported there has been a lot of speculation by developers looking at land from Elbel Road to FM 78. Mr. Simonson said the west side is zoned R2 and the other side is in the process of annexation, so we need to consider what type of zoning would be appropriate. Chairman Yarling asked the Commission what their feelings were about what the best use of the land would be. Ken Greenwald commented you cannot build on the dump for 25 years, but you can build on the frontage. , Bob Andrews said he thought we should .take a look at the City Master Plan. Chairman Yarling asked the Commission members to think about it for-the next meeting. Steve Simonson said he would bring in the City Master Plan to the next meeting. Donald Wilson asked if Green Valley Road belongs to Schertz. Steve Simonson said it does back to where it turns. Donald Wilson asked if we're going. to try to bring in the ETJ. Steve Simonson said (4) there is a request in now from a man out there wanting services. Chairman Yarling inquired as to whether or not the Schertz-Cibolo Joint Committee is still meeting. Ken Greenwald informed him they had not met since November. Bob Andrews commented that, in his opinion, nothing ever came of them. Ken Greenwald said he would get .someone to send a Letter asking if they would like to meet. Chairman Yarling apologized for missing the last several meetings. Mr. Yarling said his business had taken him out of town and his plans are short term right now. Donald Wilson asked what the status is of the Schertz Parkway meeting. Ken Green- wald replied it will be rescheduled. Don McCrary reported that those involved are assimilating all the information and he assumes they should be prepared to meet sometime after the next couple of weeks. Ty Brisgill, in reference to the area proposed for annexation behind Randolph Air Force Base, asked Ken Greenwald if we are taking a tour of something we're not going to annex. Mr. Brisgill said he knew Schertz will not annex unless they get the frontage. Ken Greenwald said the San Antonio Planning Department did not exactly do what the City Council had asked. Mr. Greenwald said, however, we will start the hearing process. If San Antonio does not back off and agree to let us have the frontage, we will not annex. Mr. Greenwald also said a letter had been written to Mayor Cisneros and each member of the San Antonio City Council, but we had received no answer yet. Bob Andrews commented he had heard that some of the residents in the Garden Ridge and New Braunfels areas had asked for their children to be allowed to attend school in the Schertz-Cibolo-Universal City Independent School District. Mr. Andrews referred to the new Albertson's building scheduled to be built and the tax base it would provide. Steve Simonson informed Mr. Andrews that the new Alb.ertson's building, even though it will be in Corral County, will be in the Schertz City limits and we will get the City taxes. Bob Andrews said yes, but the school tax is the biggest and it would be going to the Corral County School District. There was a brief discussion on this with Chairman Yarling pointing out this was not a matter for the Planning and Zoning Commission. The next regularly scheduled meeting is May 13, 1986. There is a public hearing scheduled for May 6, 1986. #9 ADJOURNMENT Chairman Yarling adjourned the meeting at 8:00 P.M. (5)