08-11-1987 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular
session on Tuesday, August 11, 1987 at .7:00. P.M. in the Municipal
Complex Conference Room; 1400 Schertz Parkway. .Those present
were as follows : -
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN EFRAIN BARRANTES, COSTA_RICA
TY BRISGILL, VICE-CHAIRMAN MIKE DELEON
JAMES HARDEN, SECRETARY
MERWIN WILLMAN CITY STAFF
KEITH VAN DINE
RANDY GROSSMAN STEVE SIMONSON, ASST. CITY
MARY MARSH MGR.
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING
SECY.
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
#2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session July 14, 1987
Mary Marsh noted that on Page 1, under Item #3, CITIZENS' INPUT
OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS, first sentence, the name of the "Oak
Forest Home Owner's Association" should be changed to read the
"Oak Forest Community Council".
Mary Marsh also pointed out that on Page 2, under Item #6,
REQUEST AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Coy Simmons to
Plat Oak Forest Unit 4 - the first sentence stating that no one
was at the meeting to represent this request was incorrect as
Craig Hollmig, representing Coy Simmons, did arrive late at the
meeting and it was so noted on Page 6, fourth paragraph under
Item #11, GENERAL DISCUSSION. The first sentence under Item #6,
Page 2, will be changed to read "There was no one at the meeting,
at this time, to represent tr~is request. Craig Hollmig,
.representing Coy Simmons, arrived late, during the GENERAL
DISCUSSION phase of the meeting."
Mary Marsh made a motion to approve the minutes, as amended, for
the Regular Session July 14, 1987. Randy Grossman seconded the
motion and the vote was as follows:
Ayes: B. Andrews, T. Brisgill, J. Harden, K. Van Dine, R.
Grossman, M. Marsh
Nays: None
Abstentions: M. Willman -
Motion carried.
#3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
Chairman Andrews welcomed Efrain Barrantes from Costa Rica._ It
was explained that Mr. Barrantes is in the area to observe our
City-and the system by which it operates. -Ken Greenwald said
there are twenty individuals throughout the San Antonio area=
here for the purpose of observing city governments. Mr.
Barrantes is a Councilman where he comes from in Costa Rica.
#4 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Procedure for Processing
of a Request for a Variance to the Sign
Ordinance
Each Commission member had received, in their package, a copy of
a proposal written by Merwin Willman. This proposal had been
discussed previously and some changes recommended. Mr. Willman,
who had been in the hospital, was able to rewrite the proposal
with the recommended changes incorporated into it and a copy of
this was given to each member to replace the one they had
received in their package.
After a brief discussion and a few more recommended changes,
Merwin Willman made a motion to recommend to City Council
approval of an amendment to the Sign Ordinance, ARTICLE XIX,
PERMITS. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and the vote was
unanimous in favor. Motion carried.
#5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Discussion on Annual
Progress Report from Planning and Zoning
Commission to City Council
Merwin Willman commented he agreed with the idea discussed at the
last meeting about a bi-annual meeting with City Council to make
sure the Commission and City Council are working toward similar
goals.
Mary Marsh also expressed a favorable .opinion on the idea of a
bi-annual meeting with City Council and the need for open.
communication between the Council and the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
Merwin Willman remarked he disagreed with the idea suggested at
the last. meeting that Planning and Zoning put together a
packet/brochure to distribute to potential businesses trying to
attract them, to locate in the City. Mr. Willman said it is a
good idea, but he does not feel that it is something that should
be done by the Planning and Zoning Commission. -
Ken Greenwald remarked that Councilman Chuck Sharpe already has
TLC working on a similar project. _
Mercain Willman did say, however, he thought it would be a good
idea for the City of Schertz to send a packet to the company that
is building the new superstore in San Antonia. Mr. Willman said
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it will be called Paraiso tthe Spanish name for paradise) and
will feature many unique items. Mr. Willman went- on to say
according to the article in the Business Section o:f the July 27,
1987 newspaper they are looking for another location in which to_-
build and_he thought it sounded_ like a good business to have in
Schertz. - - ~ -
Chairman Andrews listed some of the accomplishments by the
Planning and Zoning Commission in 1987 such as the writing and/or .
rewriting 'of the Zoning Ordinance, the Subdivision Ordinance, the _
Floodplain Ordinance,- the Ordinance Creating the Planning and
Zoning Commission, the RA Zoning for the newly annexed area south
of Randolph Air Force Base, the Mobile Home Ordinance and the
Schertz Parkway Overlay Ordinance.
Chairman Andrews suggested that in 1988 it might be a good idea
to review and update the City Master Plan.
Chairman Andrews also suggested this item (annual progress
report) be placed on the agenda of the next regularly scheduled
. meeting. Mr. Andrews asked the Commission members to be thinking
about their ideas for the report and bring their suggestions to
the next meeting.
Chairman Andrews asked that a copy cf the old Feedback List
tsomething the Commission used to keep) be provided at the next
meeting.
r ~6 GENERAL DISCOSSION
Mary Marsh said she had not been aware that a shopping center was
going up along FM 3009. Steve Simonson remarked that some land
had been cleared and a new sign put up, but he knew of no
definite plans for a shopping center.
Mary Marsh also brought up the subject of the widening of FM 3009
and asked if citizen input would help in getting the speed limit
lowered and some traffic signs and signals installed. Mrs. Marsh
stressed this is something she thought should be addressed very
early.
Steve Simonson informed Mrs. Marsh there have been resolutions
written, letters written, traffic studies done and letters sent
to state and federal representatives without result so far. Mr.
Simonson said it boils down to the fact that no city= has control
over a state highway.
Ken Greenwald told Mrs. Marsh that individual letters- sent by
citizens seem to wcrk best in producing results.
Ken Greenwald also said that when they do their traffic studies,
if any traffic travels at an average of 55 MPH cr over during
that time, th.e speed limit will stay at 55 MPH.
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Keith Van Dine notified Steve Simonson that the City needs to do
some shredding in .the areas of Pfeil__and Ware-Seguin Roads.
Randy Grossman commented he had received some inquiries _from _
residents in Woodland Oaks as to whether or nat the drainage at
Dimrock and-Starlight would be able tc withstand a heavy rain.
Mr. Grossman said they are still working on it and there have
been some heavy rains in the area, and the residents main concern
is if it is has been corrected basically and is operable.
Steve Simonson said the pipes are in the ground and if we had a
heavy rain today, it could- withstand the water. Mr. Simonson.
went on to say that to the best of his knowledge the drainage
problem had been corrected basically - he knows they are ready to
pour concrete for the inlet.
Ken Greenwald remarked that City Council has asked the City
Manager to ensure that Ed Ford, City Engineer, makes periodic
inspections to check on the progress of the drainage
construction and to make sure they are complying with their
original plans and commitments.
Merwin Willman had several matters he brought up before the
Commission:
(a) Noted that on July 23, 1987 the City Council passed the first
reading cf an ordinance adding the Dietz Creek floodplain to the
Subdivision Ordinance. Mr: Willman said he assumed they had
passed the second reading and wants to be sure we get copies to
add to our Subdivision Ordinance.
(b) Noted that he had read in the paper where Council had passed
the first and second readings. of the amendment to the Sign
Ordinance adding the section an Shopping Center and Mall Signs.
He asked that the Commission members receive copies.
(c) Thought the position number and-term of office expiration
date should be on the Planning and Zoning member list.
(d) Asked if the Commission had received copies of the letter to
Hoover Edwards.. He was informed they had.
(e) Asked if it was legal for James Harden to be cn the CCMA
board and also on the Planning and Zoning Commission. James
Harden informed him no it~ was not .and he would be resigning
shortly.
Ken Greenwald reported that the City Council is in full agreement
with the Commission`s suggestion for a bi-annual meeting and they
would make it at the Commission's convenience, preferably on a
work_shcp night. _
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There was a brief discussion about what should be on the agenda
for such a meeting with Chairman Andrews requesting this
discussion be one of the items scheduled on the next agenda of
the Planning and Zoning Commission. _
Ken Greenwald told the Commission that Waste Management had beep
given an extension until October 1 of this year.
Chairman Andrews asl~ed when the dump off Jack Hays Boulevard is
scheduled to close and was. informed by Ken Greenwald it should be
sometime this year.
James Harden asked what happened at the public hearing today for
the proposed Buffalo Valley Landfill and Steve`"~imonson replied
no decisions were reached, they were just looking at all the
input.
Ken Greenwald commented that questionnaires had been sent out to
-the residents of the Schirmerville area about the use of the
large trash cans and 90% of those who replied were in favor of
them.
Ken Greenwald said that the City had replaced 8 signs last week
in the Schirmerville area and cn Monday mcrning 9 signs were
missing.
Steve Simonson added that the City had spent $10,000.00 on signs
in the Schirmerville area last year and 26 of the 54 signs were
missing and there were 13 missing poles and hardware.
There was a brief discussion on the possible solutions to this
problem and Ty Brisgill asked if they could get a breakdown of
the figures for the Wcodland Oaks area since they have also had a
similar problem with their signs.
Steve Simonson said the City will be putting up "No Parking"
signs on the access road in front of the fruit stand, in front of
Garden Ridge Pottery and in front of the junky area south on IH
35 (next to James Harden's property). Mr. Simonson said there
had also been a clone fruit stand in front cf Garden Ridge
Pottery, but, it has been taken care of and is down now.
Steve Simonscn reported that all the Pulte bandit signs had been
pulled down Saturday afternoon because they were in violation of
the Overlay Ordinanr_e as far as the requirement for spacing
between signs. Mr. Simonson said a letter had been sent to them
informing them of such violaticn and also informing them they .
will not be allowed to put up their bandit signs for two weekends
(this previous weekend is counted in the two).
Steve Simonson .commented that all the signs on telephone poles
will be coming down as time permits.
Ty Brisgill told Merwin Willman it -was nice to see him back.
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Ty Brisgill also said he will _nct be at the meeting_ on August
25th and asked to have his package held. -
-Merwin Willman asked if there is a permit for the portable sign
- by the car wash an FM 78 and Steve Simonson said he would look
-into it.
Chairman Andrews reported that where the dump truck from Waste
Management used to sit in the middle of the road when picking up
garbage, now it sits catty-cornered and you can`t get around it.
Chairman Andrews also reported that there needs to be some
trimming done on the corner of FM 78 and Mill Street - it`s hard
to see what traffic is coming before you pull out.
.Chairman Andrews asked Steve Simonson if he had heard anything
from Coy Simmons regarding Oak Forest Unit IV and Steve Simonson
replied he had sent him a letter but had received no reply as
yet.
Ty Brisgill noted that the Crape Myrtle trees at Lindbergh and
Exchange need to be trimmed - they are obstructing traffic.
# 7 ADJOURIITMEI~T .
. Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:10 P.M.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is August 25, 1987.
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