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06-14-1988 PLANNING AND ZONING MINOTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session on Tuesday, .June 14, 1988 at 7:00 P.M. in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway. Those present were as follows: PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN DENNIS BURNETT, CONVERSE TY BRISGILL, VICE-CHAIRMAN HANDYMAN EMPLOYEE KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY SARAH SAUNDERS, CONVERSE MARY MARSH HANDYMAN REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE VICK JOE OLDS, CONVERSE . JOE POTEMPA HANDYMAN EMPLOYEE KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN ELIZABETH DOSS MIKE RILEY, K OF C MEMBERS ABSENT MARTY MARTINEZ, K OF C RICK EVANS, MERWIN WILLMAN JACK-IN-THE-BOX BILLIE LINEHAN CITY STAFF JIM SHRIVER, SCHERTZ BUSINESS CLUB STEVE SIMONSON, CITY MANAGER MARK LACOMBE, TEXAS NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECY. CONSTRUCTION SYSTEMS #1 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session May 24, 1988 George Vick made a motion to approve the minutes for the regular session May 24, 1988. Joe Potempa seconded the motion and the vote was as follows: AYES: B. Andrews, M. Marsh, G. Vick, J. Potempa NAYS: Nane ABSTENTIONS: T. Brisgill, K. Van Dine Motion carried. #3 CITIZENS` INPOT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS There was none. #4 CONSIDER AND TAKE. APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat Approval - Good Knight Subdivision PC 140-88 Mike Riley and Marty Martinez from the Knights of Columbus and Mark Lacombe of Texas Construction Systems (who arrived about 5 ..»..w........v.....»»»..»»»..»...........u...w»»w»r. c.uc...,uu..av..owvema..cwawuuwua..vw+m.nvwreuxxarc vaxvaw.vnuawv.avavwavrna~vvw«.sor.u.se+.v w..cvamvavrxx .wva..va....c tvtr~sevasts.a..snGVF t>LMStSAf minutes after discussion started> were at the meeting to represent this request. Chairman Andrews asked if there was any Staff input and Steve Simonson replied no, but Staff does recommend approval. Ty Brisgill asked if they don't have to have a flood statement on the plat and Steve Simonson said it will be on the final plat. Chairman Andrews questioned an easement on the south side for electric, gas and telephone saying it starts out at 16' and then about half way up goes to 20', and he wondered why. Mark Lacombe informed the Commission the extra feet are needed because they are bringing power in from Schertz Parkway to the front of the building. Steve Simonson commented the City requires a 16' minimum, but it's not mandatory the easement be the same number of feet all the way along, it's only necessary they meet the minimum requirements. Chairman Andrews also questioned the need for the 1' non-access easement on the north and south sides of the property. Mark Lacombe stated this was to prevent encroachment from either side. Chairman Andrews pointed out there's no way anyone can encroach as long as the Knights of Columbus own the property. Mark Lacombe remarked that they prefer to have the non-access easement fcr their own protection considering they have not been able to successfully negotiate on anything with the adjoining property owner. Ty Brisgill asked what the negatives are to having the non-access easement and Steve Simonson replied none, it's their choice. Mary Marsh made a motion to approve the preliminary plat for the Good Knight Subdivision, PC 140-88. Ty.Brisgill seconded the motion and the vote was as follows: AYES: B. Andrews, T. Brisgill, K. Van Dine, M. Marsh. J. Potempa NAYS: None ABSTENTIONS: G. Vick Motion carried. #5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Converse Handyman & Remodeling on Behalf of Billie Linehan - Request for Variance to Allow Construction of a Wooden Carport at 614 Brooks -2- Dennis Burnett, Sarah Saunders and Joe Olds of Converse. Handyman & Remodeling, and Billie Linehan were at the meeting to represent this request. George Vick asked what kind of variance is being requested and Chairman Andrews replied a setback variance because the existing carport extends to the property line and the carport they wish to replace it with also extends to the property line. George Vick then asked why they need a variance to replace the existing carport and Steve Simonson replied to make it legal because the existing carport is non-conforming. Billie Linehan told the Commission it will be a real nice looking carport somewhat like one down the street from him. Ty Brisgill asked if the new carport will tie into the house and was informed by Dennis Burnett that it will. Joe Potempa asked if it will overhang onto the neighbor's property and was informed by Dennis Burnett it will not. Mr. Burnett did say, however, it will extend out about 4' further in front than the existing carport, but is still within the required limits. George Vick made a motion to approve the request from Converse Handyman & Remodeling, on behalf of Billie Linehan at 614 Brooks, for a sideyard setback variance (extending to the right side property line) to allow the rebuilding of a new carport in the same location as the existing carport; and also approved the 4' extension to the front of the new carport. Mary Marsh seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried. #6 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Approval - Tri-County Business & Industrial Park, Unit lA - PC 143-8~ Rick Evans of Jack-in-the-Box was at the meeting to represent this request. Mary Marsh commented that Merwin Willman, who is absent tonight, had a lot of questions about this plat and she wondered if they had all been resolved. ;Steve Simonson said yes they had been resolved and noted that the :size of the lot as apprcved on the preliminary plat is exactly 'the same, and all the necessary items are on the final plat. Chairman Andrews remarked on the odd-looking easement anal Steve Simonson informed the Commission SASA is aware, that if ancther business should want to build in the immediate area and want a tctally different configuration, they may need to move the easement. Mr. Simonson alsc said SASA has stated they will do this at their own expense. -3- ti.iq~q)wYw<iUaaWVkiaw<dpibC]yiaiWa4Vbibi<aR)A)Na.>e)waea<>a1W<iizp)4].)Nq)Rt<ib)pip]4tWibtStbiCio]<.LWilazBtfictanb>ci<iezbie]<y<]6)<)<t4lC)<ah)<><). K)S]L)<>'ue]:>cia)L)tYOK)LNdL]4 CzfY(]Lic<LS6i1]tTt)L)<.N)Y.>1YbHYLY1.Y2YRYEYCN~MYty/K4LVtV.c 2W,C?9I.CE\Q4a42M}Li924d41$b1I923,~$l9a$~j! Both Chairman Andrews and Ty Brisgill expressed a desire to have that particular statement from SASA in writing. Chairman Andrews asked if the. Staff has any objections to this final plat and was informed they do not. Joe Potempa asked when they plan to start building and Rick Evans replied if everything flows smoothly, they plan to get started in approximately four weeks. Ty Brisgill made a motion to approve the final plat for Tri- County Business & Industrial Park, Unit 1A; PC 143-88. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried. Rick Evans thanked the Commission and expressed his appreciation for alI the cooperation he's had from the City. #7 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Discussion on Setting a Date for the Joint Planning & Zoning and City Council Trip Around the City Ken Greenwald explained that there are only two weekends available - the 18th and the 25th of June because after the end of June, the insurance on the busses cancels out except for a few they keep insured for special events. During discussion on this it was brought out that the weekend of the 18th is Fathers's Day. The idea of an evening trip, rather than a weekend trip, was considered. Ifen Greenwald said the only other suggestion he has is in September after school starts. Mary Marsh felt very strongly about not having the trip postponed until after school starts and said it should be scheduled in the very near future if at all possible. Ken Greenwald said he would check with Councilman Hal Baldwin about an evening trip. The Commission decided Wednesday evening, June 22, would be the best possible date for the majority. Steve Simcnson said they will find out at the workshop tomorrow night and if they don`t hear from him, it's. off, but they will receive a call if it's on. #8 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Discussion on Updating the City Plan Mary Marsh commented we need the statistics before we can ga any further. Steve Simonson informed the Commissic.E that Kim Potempa has been in to see him twice and they have things rolling along. Mr. Simcnson said Ms. Potempa needs to set up with her counselor the times she will be working with the City and exactly what she will -4- uui..... t2t~ua+ R1Y.16)ifnSdW~ilYft]~'ti~~~~t~~!:SLf:SS`~• ~•'-a:Y.~atUSKlMf2YixW.~tc2f2siG.t2RtC2W2S242H9iF343CiS~tt1 _ ru:.aaa.2crc2521Yc` df.Y12£tf? L~1iF . be doing, and her counselor will also be coming in to speak with him. Mr. Simonson further stated she will be able to work with the Commission through the summer and he has invited her to attend the Planning & Zoning meetings to become more familiar with what information is needed. It was decided to put the updating of the City Plan on hold until the information needed to continue is available. Before going on to Item #9, George Vick :.said he had a question about the letter, in the package, that Steve Simonson sent to Floyd McKee. Mr. Vick said he was drawing a blank as to what it was all about. Steve Simonson explained briefly that Mr. McKee had come before the Commission requesting a variance on signs for an RV Park he intended on building off IH-35. The Commission granted the variance and informed Mr. McKee at that time that he needed to plat the property. Mr. Simonson went on to say that between that time and now, Mr. McKee had experienced several personal setbacks in his life. Mr. Simonson said he had sent Mr. McKee a letter requesting the property be platted. Since there had been no response, he sent another letter by registered return receipt mail and had received a reply from the new engineer working on the project. Mr. Simonson said Merwin Willman had asked about it and so he was just trying to keep the Commission informed on the status of the RV Park. #9 GENERAL DISCDSSION Mary Marsh asked when the striping of the streets in Schertz is going to be accomplished, specifically on Elbel Road. Steve Simonson replied that at the workshop tomorrow night City Council will receive the second phase of the street cverlay proposal, one of those streets in the second phase being Elbel, and if the prcposal is accepted, then after the seal coating is completed the striping will begin. Mary Marsh expressed concern over Elbel Road saying there are nc visible lines on it ar2d it is in front of the High School where student traffic is heavy and very often too fast. Mrs. Marsh also commented on the habit of people passing cn the right when it is not a four-lane road. Steve Simonson said he thinks it is a four-lane road and Mary ~"iarsh said it certainly isn't designated as a four-lane road now - there are no stripes on it. Steve Simonson commented there are maintenance problems all the way from Dietz Road over to Aero because of the school bus traffic, and he indicated the. crews. had been out working on the roads. -5- - __.~_...._..r....,.~__....., ........W...,.. _,~,.w...e,.,o,.~...~,,.~,,.,.,~...~. . Keith Van Dine brought up the following: (1) Reported that he had not been able to get in touch with a Mr. Brady from TDC about coming before Planning and Zoning to speak about a possible TDC facility in the area. Mr. Van Dirie said nothing has been established yet, but he is still working on it. (2) Reminded Steve Simonson about the bad shape Pfeil Road is in directly across from him at Pole #6147. Mr. Simonson said he would check into it. (3) Remarked about the railroad bridge being jacked up and Steve Simonson said tomorrow and Thursday they will roll out half of the old bridge and roll in half of the new and then repeat the process next week for the other half. Mr. Simonson said after they finish that they will begin to clean up the area. Joe Potempa said, regarding the place called no man`s land between Schertz and New Braunfels where something is being built, he had spoken with a construction foreman and was told it is owned by Norman Schuetz who is putting in either a business for RV sales and repair or a new/used car dealership. Joe Potempa also asked who`s supposed to mow along the Schertz Parkway, it looks like a jungle, and was informed the City will do the mowing. George Vick brought up the following: (1) Commented he would like to extend tc Steve Simonson either congratulations or condolences, depending, and he would like to welcome Joe Potempa as a member of the Planning and Zoning Commission. (2) Noticed the lawnmower repair service on Winburn is still in operation. (Chairman Andrews said he will be bringing that up Ifter.) (3 ) Mentioned that the sign says they are still selling RV lots at Pecan Grove Mobile Home Parr. (4} Observed that the number of Garage Sale Sigr.s at the corner of Main and Aviation is continuing to grow and people are not coming back to remove them after the garage sale is over. Mr. Vick asked if we can do anything about them. Ken. Greenwald suggested taking the addresses and sending them letters from the Inspection Department giving them a specific- - amount of time to_remove the signs. It was also suggested having the police l~nock on their doors and asl~ them to remove the signs.' -6- uu:i~bWUSau.auua:aela:u~..aiua....a.>:Lt:,.a:aia~x:aueuxuatsmAUUasievst~a>uivd+au+.~,+ o..a57sasaV.Sa52faAa5LSdAataia5a4ifa9aNdavf15~2vsailsxiLC7.KfY4YiisA4t4aGxiYikiYtraCtiteurex,t,iJfY3PdvEli£dY2£24Lf24LS64.SI4L£&E9}319d5aS29Ytd$''t~Y..Ai424Y4L4£fL£tf2f~42iJ2...i.2i:i 2i:i;12i'. Ty Brisgill brought up the .following: (1) Asked about the status of City Inspectors, if there's still only one and if the City is going to hire another. (Steve Simonson said there`s still only one and there probably won't be another hired for a while because there`s not enough work for two..) (2) Noted that at Bent Tree in Greenshire Oaks the Stop Sign is on the left corner. (Steve Simonson said a letter had been sent to Vaughan Homes asking them to move the sign.) (3 ) Stated that on March 22, 1988 Thistle Creek was given sixty days to remove their sign on Jack Hays Boulevard. Why is it still up? (4) Said he will not be able to attend the meeting on June 28th. Keith Van Dine informed Steve Simonson that off Pfeil Road, about 3/4 of a mile from Shady Acres, way back in a field, there is someone putting up a double wide mobile home and he wondered if they had obtained the proper permits. Mr. Simonson said he will have someone check into it. Chairman Andrews mentioned the striping on Oak Street scheduled for next month and said he had spoken with John Bierschwale and found they are also -going to be putting in new sewer lines from Maple Avenue to Marilyn Drive. Mr. Andrews commented the streets are going to look weird with seal coating and new sewer line maintenance both taking place. Steve Simonson assured Mr. Andrews they would go back later and take care of any areas that are in need of repair. Chairman Andrews also mentioned Thomas Wright on Winburn who repairs lawnmowers and said he understands Mr. Wright came before the Board of Adjustment and they granted his request to maintain the lawnmower repair service at his home. Steve Simonson said that is correct. Chairman Andrews commented Mr. Wright went to the Board of Adjustment without requesting a variance first and Steve Simonson said no, and reminded Bab Andrews that Mr. Wright had come before Planning and Zoning to request a variance and they turned him down, then he went to the Board of Adjustment. Joe Potempa painted out there had been some stipulations attached to the approval of Mr. Wright's request. Ken Greenwald concurred saying the stipulatians were (a) na engine repair noise after 8:00 P.M., (b) the variance is non-transferable, and (c) Mr. Wright was asked to clean up his yard. Steve Simonson informed the Commission it appears that the Railroad is going to give us our easement an FM 78. Some of the Commissioners asked if there`s still going to be a by-pass and l -7- , ,..,x•.xau.: a.a,...~.a,x.; s. G3,u,sZ.Y.,, c.... >'>,>.;.a<+u:xr,.xcse+trzi..r:+,:u:,:ku'~ ,+,s/,;;,,,,,,,,,,,,t,, s: ,;,t.s:~•,t,i, .'t erzi):es..s..;t'1a2s2 i{t,>eiii{kfa.{z{k{k+.riiriJ?r{>{SGZi2.d1LX32.fik2adiE43kitiEilf:52iii2.titstfls2iES2f2i2fL{EfEiifi<Ef)5152ilflfMF{lSlrtilti523Si232id{25ti2iii:iki:~f Mr. Simonson said he didn't know, he thinks it's still in the Highway Department's 15 or 20 year plan. Chairman Andrews asked about the businesses along where H & P Printing is located and how much land they might lose, but Steve Simonson said he didn't know yet. Ken Greenwald told the Commission that Doug Becker will be at the workshop on June 15th to update those named in the Parker suit. Mr. Greenwald said the workshop starts at 7:00 P.M. Mary Marsh asked Steve Simonson if he had distributed to Council the letter from the Citizens' Awareness Group stating their concerns about roads and Mr. Simonson replied yes he had. ' Joe Potempa asked what the latest is on Maske Road and Steve Simonson he is awaiting the ruling from the lawyers concerning public R.O.W.'s. X10 ADJODRNMENT Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:05 P.M. The next regularly scheduled meeting is June 28, 1988. -8-