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08-19-2014 MinutesMINUTES REGULAR MEETING August 19, 2014 A Regular Meeting was held by the Schertz City Council of the City of Schertz, Texas, on August 19, 2014, at 6:00 p.m., in the Hal Baldwin Municipal Complex Council Chambers, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Building #4, Schertz, Texas. The following members present to -wit: Mayor Michael Carpenter Councilmember Jim Fowler Councilmember Cedric Edwards Staff Present: Deputy City Manager John Bierschwale Chief of Staff Bob Cantu City Secretary Brenda Dennis . Mayor Pro -Tem Daryl John Councilmember David Scagliola Councilmember Matthew Duke City Manager John Kessel Executive Director Brian James City Attorney Charles Zech Councilmember Matthew Duke was absent during the Workshop and discussion items. Call to Order Mayor Carpenter called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance to the Flags of the United States and the State of Texas ( Councitmember David Scagliola) Councilmember David Scagliola provided the invocation followed by the Pledges of Allegiance to the Flags of the United States and the State of Texas. City Events and Announcements • Announcements of upcoming City Events (J. Bierschwale/B. James) No announcements provided. • Announcements and recognitions by City Manager (J. Kessel) Mayor Carpenter recognized City Manager John Kessel who asked Mayor Carpenter to join him at the podium and then recognized Director of Development Services Michelle Sanchez. Ms. Sanchez presented Mayor Carpenter with the 2014 Certificate of Achievement for Planning Excellence the Planning Department received on August 15, 2014. She stated the certificate recognized the professional planning standards demonstrated by our planning staff and the support exhibited by our City Council and Planning Comrnission. She continued to read stating that the City of Schertz met the Chapter's goals for: increasing awareness of professional planning; recognizing Planning Departments which meet certain professional requirements; 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 1 - enhancing neighborhood and citizen recognition of planning efforts; encouraging the funding of professional training for Commissioners and Staff, and aiding in economic development and community image. Mayor, Council and City Management congratulated all those involved- in achieving this award. Ms. Sanchez recognized and thanked her staff for their hard work in achieving this award. Hearine of Residents. Mayor Carpenter recognized the following who spoke: Mr. Derek Sanchez, 4721 Green Bluff Drive, who spoke about revising the City Ordinance to allow him to operate a pizza trailer. City Manager John Kessel stated that this is something that staff has discussed with our Chamber of Commerce, and we would very much like to have these types of businesses within the City and offered to have him work with our Development Services Department to develop language and standards for accomplishing this. Mr. Kessel asked that Mr. Sanchez get with Michelle Sanchez this evening and provide her his information. Workshop Presentation and discussion regarding the CRS Program and discussion on future impact on federally required flood insurance. (Item requested by Councihmember Fowler) (J. Bierschwale /S. Willoughby /J. Hooks/L. Busch) Mayor Carpenter recognized Storm Water Manager Larry Busch who introduced Ms. Deidra Mares, Flood Specialist, ISO Community Hazard Mitigation and Manager of the Community Rating System (CRS) who provided a PowerPoint presentation regarding the CRS program, qualifications and point systems answering questions from Council. City Manager John Kessel stated that Storm Water Manager Larry Busch will take lead on this project and keep the Council updated. • Discussion regarding Charter Review Commission (Mayor /J. Kessel/B. Dennis) Mayor Carpenter recognized City Secretary Brenda Dennis who provided a brief overview of how the City Charter can be amended, the Council's ability to periodically appoint a Charter Review Commission, their duties, as well as information on how many times the City Charter has been amended. Mayor Carpenter stated that they haven't had a seated Charter Review Commission in eight (8) years since 2006. The Charter directs Council to appoint a Charter Review Commission periodically, but doesn't say what periodically is. Mayor Carpenter stated if you look at the history they are a bit over due and this was mitigated due to recommendations that came from staff and came from Council on the last two (2) sets of charter revisions. Mayor Carpenter indicated that it is time to seat a Charter Review Commission once again. The Charter states that a Charter Review Commission is made up of five (5) citizens. 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -2- Mayor Carpenter indicated that the Council needed to appoint this commission relatively soon. He stated the Charter Review Commission sits for six months, 180 days, and if the Council wants to take the recommendations of that citizen panel and put them before the voters in May or November of next year, then the time is now to seat that Charter Review Commission. Councilmembers concurred. Mayor Carpenter directed the City Secretary to place this item on this agenda for the Council to discuss methods of appointing the five (5) members of the community they want to appoint to this commission and get them seated within the next 30 -days so they can begin their work. Consent Agenda Items 1. Minutes — Approve the minutes of the regular meeting of August 12, 2014. Q. Kessel/B. Dennis) 2. Resolution No. 14 -R -69 — Consideration and/or action approving a Resolution authorizing a renewal of an Interlocal Agreement among the City of Schertz, the City of Cibolo, and Schertz- Cibolo - Universal City Independent School District (SCUCISD) to provide police support to SCUCISD. (J. Bierschwale/M. Hansen) The following was read into record: RESOLUTION NO. 14 -R -69 A RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SCHERTZ, TEXAS AUTHORIZING AN INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CIBOLO, TEXAS AND THE SCHERTZ- CIBOLO- UNIVERSAL CITY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND OTHER MATTERS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH Mayor Carpenter recognized Councilmember Edwards who moved, seconded by Councilmember Scagliola to approve the consent agenda items 1 and 2. The vote was unanimous with Mayor Pro -Tem John, Councilmembers Fowler, Scagliola, and Edwards voting yes and no one voting no. Councilmember Duke was absent. Motion Carried Discussion and Action Items 3. Public Hearings on Proposed Budget for FY 2014 -15 — Conduct a public hearing and consideration and/or action regarding the adoption of the FY 2014 -15 Budget (First required public hearings) (J. Kessel/J. Walters) 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 3 - Mayor Carpenter recognized Senior Budget & Finance Analyst James Walters who introduced this item stating in accordance with Chapter 26 of the Texas Tax Code the City Council must hold two (2) public hearings on a proposed budget for FY 2014 -15. He stated the first required public hearing is this evening. The second required public hearing will be conducted at the August 26, 2014 regular session. The following information was included: FY 2014 -15 Proposed Budget Budget Goals: • Balanced Structurally • Conservative and Responsible • Follows Financial Policies • Maintains Current Service Levels • Focuses on Priorities Key City 5 Year Goals 2014 • Building Repairs* - Rec. Center, Admin Building & Parking Lot, Fire State #2 • Fire Station 3* • Master Facilities Plan* • Hold Tax Rate Flat* • Compensation Study* • FM 1518 Funding Study* • Maintain Reserves* Currently being worked on Budget Highlights • Addresses all Key 5 Year Goals Compensation Study and implementation Administration Building, Fire Station #2 Repairs, Recreation Center Repairs Continues Master Facilities Plan, which includes Fire Station #3 Includes a Funding Study on FM 1518 Continues to fund replacement reserves • Focus on our Fleet vehicles and operations • Replaces aging equipment • Long Term Debt Model All Funds — Revenues Mr. Walters stated that the general fund makes up 39% of the budget, Water & Sewer fund makes up 27 %, EMS fund makes up 12 %, I &S fund makes up 9 %, and the rest goes to the smaller funds. 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 4 - General Fund $25,814,170 Special Events Fund 153,800 PEG Fund 209,000 Water & Sewer Fund 17,860,678 EMS Fund 8,186,919 Drainage Fund 1,159,200 Hotel Tax 565,353 Park Fund 100;000 Tree Mitigation 116,335 Capital Recovery Water 885,500 Capital Recovery Sewer 1,160,497 I &S Fund 5,707,276 Other Funds 349,010 SEDC 302,257 GRAND TOTAL $65,959,999 All Funds — Expenses Mr. Walters stated that the general fund makes up 39% of the budget, Water & Sewer fund makes up 28 %, EMS fund makes up 13 %, I &S fund makes up 9 %, and the other funds make up the rest. General Fund $25,460,304 Special Events Fund 153,800 PEG Fund 209,000 Water & Sewer Fund 17,788,563 EMS Fund 8,151,501 Drainage Fund 1,094,618 Hotel Tax 564,402 Park Fund 60,000 Tree Mitigation 116,125 Capital Recovery Water 536,109 Capital Recovery Sewer 1,160,497 I &S Fund 5,636,157 Other Funds 339,000 SEDC 3,074,554 GRAND TOTAL $64,344,630 Tax Rate Mr. Walters stated that the state has us calculate different property taxes and present them to City Council and to the citizens. Following are the calculations: Effective: 08 -19 -2014 Minutes The tax rate which, on average, will keep the tax bill the same as in 2013. Page - 5 - Current: The rate currently adopted by the City. Proposed Max: The maximum rate set at which the final adopted rate cannot exceed, and the rate we are requesting Council set tonight. This is also the rate that we cannot exceed without issuing notices. Rollback: The rate if exceeded allows citizens to initiate a rollback election. The results of this election can reduce the adopted tax rate back to the rollback rate. Effective: $0.4857 Current: $0.4974 Proposed Max: $0.4974 - Proposed budget is balanced at this rate Rollback: $0.5066 $0.01 is equal to $270,630 revenue or $17.42 on the average home Target Tax Rate Tax Rate Current Recommended Alternative Increase of Fund Balance 353,866 Maximum 5,936,141 M &O $0.3010 $0.3164 $0.3139 I &S $0.1964 $0.1810 $0.1810 Total $0.4974 $0.4974 $0.4949 General Fund Mr. Walters stated that using our revenue and expenses our increase in fund balance is expected to be $353,866. Below is the breakdown: Revenues $25,814,170 Expenditures 25,460,304 Increase of Fund Balance 353,866 Beginning Fund Balance 5,936,141 Ending Fund Balance 6,290,008 25% Reserve Policy $ 6,142,323 Mr. Walters stated that 25% reserve policy is for recurring operational expenses. Does not include identified one -time expenses such as studies or irregular capital purchases. 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -6- M &O $0.3164 Total Change in Expenditures $ 203,000 New Employees $ 54,015 Small Expanded Programs (10,000 or less) $ 794,800 Large Expanded Programs (over 10,000) $ 300,000 Act on Compensation Study $ 770,000 Continued Existing Staffing Levels & Programs $2,121,815 Total Increase $ 353,500 Reserve Funding M &O $0.3164 New Personnel $ 26,000 2 Seasonal Park Workers $ 45,000 Accountant $ 93,000 2 additional mechanics $ 39,000 Building Maintenance Worker I $203,000 Total New Employees M &O $0.3164 Small Expanded Programs $ 1,500 Baby Changing Stations $ 2,500 Lync Implementation — add on to our new Office 365 program $ 5,250 Portable AC Unit $11,200 Fleet Equipment $19,565 Laptops, Tablets, Printers, and Servers $14,000 2 Defibrillators - Fire $54,015 Total Small Expanded Programs M &O $0.3164 Large Expanded Programs $ 327,200 Vehicle Replacements $ 36,000 Planning Tracking Software $ 109,600 Replace 1/3 of Self Contained Breathing Apparatus $ 30,000 Additional Landscaping Services $ 21,000 Animal Adoption Trailer (City Portion - $10,000) $ 50,000 New/Replacement Desks & Minor Renovations $ 150,000 Building Repairs — Admin. Bldg, and Parking lot, and Fire Station 2 $ 20,000 May Charter Election $ 50,000 FM 1518 Funding Study (I -10 to FM 78) $ 794,800 Total New Programs 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 7 - M &O $0.3164 Large Expanded Programs - Vehicles $ 36,000 Replace Fire Chiefs Vehicle $ 65,000 Replace Battalion Chief s Vehicle $ 28,000 Replace Inspections' Truck $ 28,000 Replace Streets' Truck $ 25,200 CID Replacement Vehicle $ 60,000 Replace Parks' Truck $ 28,000 Building Maintenance Truck $ 57,000 Fleet Replacement Fund $327,200 Vehicle Replacements M &O $0.3164 Reserve Funding $ 169,000 Vehicle Replacement — able to replace more often $ 24,500 A/C Replacement $ 25,000 Server Replacement $ 35,000 Phone System Replacement $ 100,000 Unassigned Fund Balance — to be used on other projects necessary $ 353,500 Total Reserve Funding Public Works Equipment Equipment Expense 3 Backhoes $ 195,000 Haul Truck & Trailer $ 125,000 Belly Dump Trailer $ 50,000 Chipper & Truck $ 99,000 Tractor w /Arm Mower $ 105,000 Zero Turn Mower $ 16,500 Front End Loader $ 209,000 Replacement Motor Grader $ 200,000 Street Sweeper $ 200,000 Total: $1,199,700 Mr. Walters stated that the information below does not include action on Employee Salary Survey, includes no personnel and very little capital purchases in the final four years. He stated it does include the pool and firefighter ramp up in FY 2016. 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -8• 2013 — 5 Year Forecast Information 2014 — 5 Year Forecast Information FY2013 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018 Revenue $ 22,689,507 $ 23 170,010 $ 23,501,901 $ 24,092,029 $ 24,754,718 $ 25,440 833 Expense $ 21 513138 S22,618,597 S(22,776,669) $(24,009,901) $ 24,699,240 $(25,547,867) Reserve Funding $1,176,369 $551,413 $725,232 $82,128 $55,479 M &O Fund Balance $3,976,709 $4,528,123 $5,253,355 $5,335,484 $5,390,962 $5,283,928 25% Goal $52471,635 $5,637,149 $5,694,167 $5,983,725 $6,174,810 $6,371,967 Over/Under $: ;494 92 : T.$1,109;02 - ,$ 440,812` $7,219,477 $7,448,981 2014 — 5 Year Forecast Information Mr. Walters stated that the 2014 — 5 Year Forecast includes $600,000 for salary survey over 3 years, firefighter ramp up, natatorium operations, and between 4 and 8 employees added every year. He stated that the general fund would need to add closer to 12 to keep the same ratio. 5 Year Model Input ■ Revenues • Property and Sales Tax estimated growth is based on historic trends and future population estimates • Model assumes the tax rate holds constant through FY 2019 5 Year Model Input ■ Expenses • Operational costs are grown at rates based on a prior 3 years average • Includes following programs: ♦ Funding for all 3 phases of the SCBA's replacement ♦ Aquatic Center Operations ♦ 12 Firefighters for new Station ♦ Estimates on the Compensation Study Action ♦ Continued Merit program throughout all years ♦ Between 3 and 5 additional employees (not including Firefighters) each year 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 9 - FY2013 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018 Revenue $ 24,611,808 $ 25 814170 $ 26,755,653 $ 27,822,123 $ 28,943 387 $ 30,122 409 Expense $ 23,338,563 $(25,460,3'04) $ 26,525,088 $(27,808,712) $(28,9 2,910 $(29,795,924) Reserve Funding $1,273,245 $353,866 $230,565 $13,410 $30,477 $326,485 M &O Fund Balance $5,936,141 $6,290,008 $6,520,572 $6,533,982 $6,564,460 $6,890,945 25% Goal $5,686,391 $6,150,872 $6,578,522 $6,918,178 $7,219,477 $7,448,981 Over/Under x:$249 750 .$139136 Mr. Walters stated that the 2014 — 5 Year Forecast includes $600,000 for salary survey over 3 years, firefighter ramp up, natatorium operations, and between 4 and 8 employees added every year. He stated that the general fund would need to add closer to 12 to keep the same ratio. 5 Year Model Input ■ Revenues • Property and Sales Tax estimated growth is based on historic trends and future population estimates • Model assumes the tax rate holds constant through FY 2019 5 Year Model Input ■ Expenses • Operational costs are grown at rates based on a prior 3 years average • Includes following programs: ♦ Funding for all 3 phases of the SCBA's replacement ♦ Aquatic Center Operations ♦ 12 Firefighters for new Station ♦ Estimates on the Compensation Study Action ♦ Continued Merit program throughout all years ♦ Between 3 and 5 additional employees (not including Firefighters) each year 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 9 - Long Term Debt Model • For I &S Fund- • Purpose: • To avoid large tax increases in the future • Design: • Model is long term in nature • Includes all current debt obligations • Takes into account the growth of the tax base • Ensures fund balance never falls below a certain level • Includes bond elections every 5 years Mr. Walters provided a slide of the Graph of Debt Services. Training Slide Educational Opportunities Expenses Training & Professional Certification $358,348 . Citywide Training Classes $ 7,000 Tuition Reimbursement 20,000 Total: $385,348 Does not include training provided at no additional cost from TML and other membership organizations. These types of training include: Supervisory Training, Safety Training, Financial Planning, and Harassment Awareness. Mr. Walters provided the information below on what the budget calendar looks like: Budget Calendar FY 2014/15 July 31 File with City Secretary, Budget Workshop August 5 Budget Workshop, vote to place a preliminary tax rate on the agenda, and schedule public hearings August 6 First Community Budget Presentation — Civic Center August 12 Budget Workshop August 14 Second Community Budget Presentation — Schertz United Methodist Church August 19 First Public Hearing August 26 Second Public Hearing, First Vote September 2 Second Vote and adoption of the budget and tax rate October 1 Budget goes into effect Mayor Carpenter opened the public hearing and recognized the following: • Mr. Robert Brockman, 1000 Elbel Road, who asked about the plans for a water storage facility for Southern Schertz and also asked about funding of the Senior Center. Mr. Brockman also inquired about the absences of the Deputy City 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -10 - Manager and the Executive Director of Development. City Manager John Kessel stated that they were on vacation. As no one else spoke, Mayor Carpenter closed the public hearing. Mayor Carpenter recognized City Manager John Kessel who asked Public Works Director Sam Willoughby to come forward to address Mr, Brockman's question regarding the plans for the water storage facility. Mr. Willoughby stated that they have started preliminary engineer work and they are currently working on securing an appropriate site. Mr. Kessel addressed Mr. Brockman's question regarding the funding of the Senior Center stating that they have in the proposed budget funding for one - quarter of the calendar year and they are looking into having an opportunity of having an outside agency operate that facility as we do not have the staffing levels or expertise. He stated that if this is a better option for our seniors then they will move forward, which would be discussed at a public meeting with Council, and the Seniors, and if that does not work out they would be coming back to Council for full year funding with some options for staffing so that we can continue to have a good Senior Program. Mayor Carpenter concurred stating they are keeping their options open. Mayor Carpenter called for Council comments and recognized Councihnember Scagliola who stated he had only two objections regarding the budget. One, is you call this conservative and the other is you called it balanced. He stated we have a different definition of conservative. Using conservative estimates does not make a budget conservative. Conservatism is a physiology. Values, lean, efficiency focuses on synergy, focuses on performance. Using conservative estimates may mitigate your risks but it does so by padding the budget, and if you are going to error it tends to error on the side of caution. That's what this budget does. The way he sees the budget it addresses the wants of the City and it does indeed reflect some long range strategies. But it is not conservative. As far as addressing those long range strategies, he is not sure that it does it by design. He believes it was a fortunate outcome based on the way things worked out. The second thing is claiming this is a balanced budget. He stated he was not impressed. It is easy to balance a budget when you are going to spend $1.2 million dollars more than you spent last year, or you get to increase taxes by that amount and add another million to it. Balanced, where is the challenge in that? What opportunities are we missing? Councihnember Scagliola stated that he thinks our staff has done an exceptional job with economic development. When are the residents going to start benefrtting from the exceptional job that our employees have put into economic development? That is how you pay for future growth as far as he is concerned. He proposes adopting the effective rate using that as a base line and then if you want to talk about balancing the budget, you balance it from there. You don't take a top down approach. That is not a conservative approach. You start from the base line. What do we need, not necessarily what we want, but what do we need? If we went down to the effective rate at $0.4857, that's about $300,000 in change. Councihnember Scagliola stated that what amazes him is that in a $65 million budget we are not able to find $300,000 in change. As he stated, he is all for the effective rate and use that as a base line. 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 11 - Mayor Carpenter stated that he and Councihnember Scagliola get to have this discussion every, year at budget time. He stated that if the city was closer to build out, if we were somewhere near 90% build out we would probably be in a position to be looking at the effective rate but potentially moving to a rate below the effective rate because we would no longer be in growth mode and no longer be on a growth curve that we have to manage to and support. One of the things that was decided several years ago as the Council was we went to San Antonio and asked if they would cede to us from their ETJ the area between FM 1518 and the creek. They agreed, and part of that agreement was that we would have to annex that section of the city, which we've largely completed. Certainly to the point that we have made good to the commitments to San Antonio, but because we have done this we have to make commitments to some of the things we made to the residents in that part of the city. In order to do so we actually have to spend some more money than we have been spending before. We have to treat all sections of the city equally and in the growth mode that we are in have to expect that we are not in the position to move to an effective rate or lower. It is a good goal, it's a proper goal for the future, but he does not think they are at that point right now where we could sustain that over the long term. We have seen other cities that have attempted to do that, which caused a sling shot effect while they were still in the growth mode. In order for them to maintain their maintenance and operation during that growth phase they sling shot well back and then had to raise the tax rate not in small increments, but in large increments to get back to maintaining. Mayor Carpenter continued stating that he believes it is easier for the tax payer to deal with small incremental changes rather than scale back, scale back and sling shot to a higher rate. Mayor Carpenter also stated as another case and point if you saw the news today Live Oak is going to raise their tax rate by .6 cents to fund I &S bond work. He stated with us holding our rate or slightly reducing our rate is in his mind significantly easier for our population to deal with then waiting, waiting and waiting, then sling shoting a .6 cent increase. It is a different point in philosophy, and he thinks the way we are doing it is correct and will continue to advocate for it. He further stated that Councihnember Scagliola and he will continue to disagree, but it is a healthy thing. Mayor Carpenter recognized Councilmember Fowler who asked Mr. Walters to explain the difference between the effective rate and the proposed rate and roll back rate. Mr. Walters stated that the effective rate is the rate at which on average the city will issue the same amount on the tax bills as they did the year prior. The average tax bill will be the same this year as last year. The proposed maximum rate is the rate the Council set on August 5, 2014, which the Council cannot now adopt a rate higher without starting the process all over again. The roll back rate is the rate based on calculations set by the state where if Council adopted a tax rate over the rollback rate the citizens would be allowed to vote, and if they were to win, it would reduce the tax rate back to the roll back rate. It's basically insurance for the citizens that Council does not raise their taxes too high too fast. Councitmember Fowler had Mr. Walters clarify the amounts being proposed for the tax rate to include M &O and I &S. Mr. Walters stated that the general fund increased 8% over last year. He stated that on the M &O side they are looking at, the $2 million increase, it is going to be higher than last year but the overall rate will remain the same. He stated even if you keep the same tax rate or go to the effective rate, the effective rate can still increase the 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -12 - overall revenue of the city, since the average tax bills are the same we will just have basically new properties that are being built. When we add new residencies the tax bills are the same but we have more residences we have more businesses being built. The tax bill is the same but we have more going out. That is how tax revenues can actually increase with the effective rate. What the effective rate is not taking into account is inflation that is relatively neutral, it adjusts for inflation. Councilmember Fowler asked where we would get the money to replace the equipment if we didn't get it from the proposed tax rate. Mayor Carpenter answered through sales tax; if we increased our retail tax base then sales tax could also potentially fund those things in the general fund. Mayor Carpenter stated that one of the salient points to remember as we talk is if we maintain the current tax rate or go to a slightly lower tax rate as opposed to going all the way down to the effective rate is to look at how much development has occurred that is commercial and how much valuation change has happened with residential properties. If we have more commercial properties coming into the tax base representing a large portion of that increase in evaluation as opposed to a year of rising up of residential property values by the appraisal district, then we are in a strong position. If we have the reverse, if we have the valuations from the appraisal district driving the valuations of the residential properties up high and little or no commercial development then it would be fair to say that the residents are really bearing the brunt of that cost. But with the addition of the commercial businesses we have had, we have it balanced. We have it in the right place; it's not all on the residents. To Councilmember Scagliola's point, when will the residents begin to feel some of the positive effects of the commercial development? We are already feeling it because a lot of those monies coming in are because of the valuations created by the commercial development that we have. If we didn't have that then we would be unbalanced and more of the burden would be on the residents. Mayor Carpenter also stated to Councilmember Fowler's point we absolutely have to watch very carefully to make sure that we are driving that economic engine of commercial development that keeps in check the amount of that increase into the general fund that is required to be paid by the residents. Mayor Carpenter recognized City Manager John Kessel who stated one other thing for Council to consider while discussing the tax rate is we are discussing this year's proposed rate for the upcoming year, but we also have to consider future years. One of the reasons we went to a five year budget is we wanted to look at the long term effect on our tax rates of our different projects we say we want to do. For example, Fire Station #3 is a project the citizens, the City Council and staff all agree on that we need to build in Southern Schertz. This is going to require twelve (12) fire fighters be hired to staff, which is three shifts of four. That is a very minimum crew set. They need to be hired over the next few years. Mr. Kessel stated that you can see on the five year model that it has those expenses and we actually drop below our 25% goal even at the proposed tax rate. If we were to go to the effective tax rate all of the numbers on the revenue side would decrease, yet the expenses that we know we need to expend would increase, and the bottom line number would get much worse. Mr. Kessel stated if you will recall from the previous year 2013, the number for 2018 was over a million dollars under our goal and we have been working very hard to not only meet today's needs but anticipate those needs tomorrow. There are different ways we can do that. We could choose not to build a fire station, that would be one option, then 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -13- we wouldn't have the staff or the expense but we also wouldn't have the fire station. The other thing we could do is raise taxes in those years and that is something that staff is not comfortable proposing. We know how difficult that would be on the citizens and the Council. What our proposal on the staff side considers is we have to have these known costs. Mr. Kessel demonstrated the effect on the 5 year forecast information. Mayor Carpenter recognized Mr. Walters who addressed further questions regarding revenue projections and how they were placed in the five year forecast model. City Manager John Kessel stated that they do not know what new businesses will come into town, stating that if we have a banner year we will get ahead, if we have a bust year we will get behind. We use the term conservative not in a political party sense but in terms of the degree to which we make our estimates based on hopefulness versus simply maybe more risk based estimates. We do not assume we are going to have 20% growth in our commercial tax base, we assume 5 to 6% growth totals, and that includes our ad valorem tax and growth in our sales tax. It is unlikely that we are going to see an Amazon.com come in every single year; it is simply not the case. We also do not know what world events are going to take place. One of the things we discussed during the pre- budget planning is the longest we have gone as a County without an economic downturn is about ten years, from recession to recession. We are getting close to something along those lines, certainly within the five year forecast. We could have a fantastic run and go ten years more and do great, or something could happen that is outside of our control, like the flood in 1998, a man made situation like in 2001 or a simple economic meltdown. We can't always assume an upside, yet the citizens of Southern Schertz will still need to have a fire station. We can plan for those things or we can react to those things, from a staff's perspective it is important that we consider them and obviously policy decisions are that of the City Council. The information that has been made available this evening is critical not only to this year but years to come. Mayor Carpenter. recognized Councilmember Fowler who disagreed with going to the effective rate stating that we would have to give up things that staff as a team have come up with that are most important and that we would also have to give up on personnel that are needed. Councilmember Fowler stated that we have been saying for months that we need to hire more individuals and he doesn't believe going to the effective rate is a wise decision at this time. Mayor Carpenter recognized Councilmember Edwards who stated that going back to the effective rate is irresponsible. If we use the rate that they are proposing he believes that will help them accomplish all the goals that we have not only going forward next year but going forward for the next five to even ten years out. Just because we would go to the effective rate it does not mean that the taxes won't go up. A person's home could actually be valued higher, and then they would get a higher tax bill. Mr. Walters stated it could. If property values go up and we go to the effective rate, why not raise taxes when the property values are going down; we would be irresponsible to do that as well. Councilmember Edwards stated this is a good budget and has been put in place for a reason. He reiterated that they have always talked about responsibility based management and being responsible. If there are items that different departments need, he knows that we have the right people in place 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -14 - to go to each other and say we can hold off on our purchase or hold off on a particular budget item that would give the other departments priority. Those cost cutting saving measures will always continue to go forward as long as he is on council. We will always have cost cutting measures to give the citizens the biggest bang for the buck. It's the responsible thing to do. Going to the effective rate would be irresponsible. Mayor Carpenter recognized Councilmember Scagliola who stated he thinks the staff did a great job working together. His problem isn't with the staff with their willingness to sit down and collaborate. He thinks there are some long range assumptions that are built in the model that may or may not be valid. That's where the savings are that he envisions, not any particular line item, it the overall structure. There are certain things that don't happen immediately, it requires a ramp up. You cannot spend money on a program that doesn't exist yet. Incremental improvements, you start feeding into a program, you do not spend everything all at once. This model takes a snap shot of assumptions. He stated that he was speaking to Mr. Kessel today and they agreed that this is a nice two dimensional model. Reality isn't two dimensional, it's. three dimensional. There are a whole lot of things going on that we cannot see. We are looking at a flat screen, and that is his contention. As far as being irresponsible he doesn't consider conservative values to be irresponsible. It may be a different way of viewing things, but doesn't consider being different to be irresponsible. Spending money that you do not have and isn't yours that is just available for the taking fits his definition for irresponsible. He doesn't believe they are doing that either. This is simply a difference of opinion and he is not saying that he is absolutely right, but he thinks he is closer to the mark, especially during this year than he has in the past because he sees the benefits of our economic strategy and that is what he is basing his assumptions on, not a snap shot. Mayor Carpenter stated that he wanted to provide a concrete example; one of the things that has been discussed on the dais has been are we spending money on things that we shouldn't be. Depending on how you value things whether looking at today's dollars, past dollars or future dollars, it's arguable that there is probably between $13 to $19 million dollars of needs and wants that they have not funded over the years. That's a continuous movement. One of the things that they are looking at in this budget and probably a strong example of what we mean when we say we put things off and prioritized with staff, staff works together where this money should be spent and where the money can wait. We are going to replace a backhoe that is in service today that was purchased in 1988, the year after he graduated from high school. This backhoe he imagines is being held together with gum and baling wire. This is something that we have put off for a long time and is something that we cannot put off any longer. This is a legitimate need and we need to replace. We have done tradeoffs year after year, which can wait one more year. Because we are in a growth mode, we are not a city that is built out to its city limits, we have needs. He doesn't believe that we have needs where we have to raise taxes and go over spending our money, and to that point, don't forget everyone on the dais pays taxes; what ever we set the rate at is what they have to pay as well. We are very careful and staff is very careful. There are gives and takes and he feels very strong that this is a great budget and he doesn't believe anyone on the dais has said that staff hasn't done an incredible job in putting it 08 -19 -2014 Minutes rage -15 - together and he doesn't believe that they have over spent at A. The budget is in the correct place, that point of equilibrium that it needs to be at. 4. Public Hearings on Proposed Tax Rate — Conduct a public hearing and consideration and/or action regarding the adoption of the FY 2014 -15 Tax Rate. (First required public hearings) (J. Kessel/J. Walters) Mayor Carpenter recognized Senior Budget/Finance Analyst James Walters who stated that the proposed tax rate is at $0.4974, with $0.3164 for the M &O rate and $0.1810 for the I &S rate. . Mayor Carpenter opened the public hearing and as no one spoke, closed the public hearing. Mayor Carpenter opened it up for Council comments and stated a lot of the discussion was covered under the last item. No further comments from Council. Mayor Carpenter stated there will also be an opportunity to speak next week as they will have their second public hearing. Roll Call Vote Confirmation Mayor Carpenter recognized City Secretary Brenda Dennis who recapped the votes of items 1 and 2. Executive Session Mayor Carpenter stated before they go into executive session he wanted to say that from time to time since he has been on Council for nine years, it is important to recognize the civility and the collegial nature that this Council puts forth. We can have genuine disagreements on the dais, it doesn't get personal and it doesn't get rude. It remains healthy discussions, disagreements on the dais amongst Council is healthy for a city. The fact that this Council and previous Councils in this city have been able to have those discussions and again have them in a collegial and civil manner is a testament to who we are as a city. Mayor Carpenter thanked the Council for that contribution. It is something to be remarked upon and savored; it doesn't happen that way in every city. We are blessed to have a council who work together during the midst of disagreements. Mayor Carpenter recessed the regular meeting into executive session at 7:29 p.m. Councilmember Duke arrived at 7.30 p. m. 5. City Council will meet in closed session for evaluation of the City Manager under Texas Government Code Section 551.074 personnel issues. Reconvene into Regular Session Mayor Carpenter reconvened into regular session at 9:06 p.m. 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page - 16 - 5. a. Take any necessary action based on discussions held in closed session under Agenda Item number 5. Mayor Carpenter recognized Councilmember Edwards who moved, seconded by Councilmember Duke to set the City Manager's salary at $161,320. The vote was unanimous with Mayor Pro -Tem John, Councilmembers Fowler, Scagliola, Edwards and Duke voting yes and no one voting no. Motion Carried Roll Call Vote Confirmation Mayor Carpenter recognized City Secretary Brenda Dennis who recapped the vote on agenda item 5a. Requests and Announcements 6. Announcements by City Manager • Citizen Kudos • Recognition of City employee actions • New Departmental initiatives No further announcements provided. 7. Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers that items be placed on a future City Council agenda. Mayor Carpenter requested the City Secretary place on the next agenda for Executive Session discussion regarding the City Manager's contract. 8. Announcements by Mayor and Councilmembers • City and community events attended and to be attended • City Council Committee and Liaison Assignments (see assignments below) • Continuing education events attended and to be attended • Recognition of actions by City employees • Recognition of actions by community volunteers • Upcoming City Council agenda items Mayor Carpenter recognized Councilmember Fowler who stated he attended the following: • Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Schertz Chamber Luncheon Mayor Carpenter recognized Councilmember Scagliola who stated he attended the following: 08 -19 -2014 Minutes Page -17- Thursday, August 14, 2014, Schertz Chamber Mixer at GVEC, as well as attended the Schertz Chamber Luncheon. Mayor Carpenter thanked the Council for their willingness to work collegial and in a professional manner, not all Councils do it, but it has been the habit in Schertz for the better part of 56 years. Thank you for continuing that tradition and it is good that we can disagree and remain civil. Adiournment As there was no further business, the meeting was adjourn24ch§aelR Carpenter, Mayor TTE� l \Brenda Dennis, City Secretary 08 -19 -2014 Minutes rage - 18 -