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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
APRIL 15, 1987
The Schert~ City Council convened in Special Workshop Session on
Wednesday, April 15, 1987, at 7:00 p.m. in the Conference Room of
the Municipal Complex, 1400 Live Oak Road, Schertz, Texas. The
following members were present: Mayor Earl W. Sawyer, presiding;
Charles B. Sharpe; Hal Baldwin; Ray Stanhope; Adolph Aguilar and
Ken Greenwald. Staff present were City Manager Jimmy G. Gilmore
and City Secretary June G. Krause.
#1 HEARING OF RESIDENTS: Mayor Sawyer said he had invited
Mrs. Stanhope, Chairman of the Housing Authority Board to this
meeting.
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Mrs. Stanhope advised that the Housing Authori ty is actively
seeking funds to build more elderly housing in Schertz, as there
is a two-year waiting list for the present housing. They are
seeking A&E Services (Architect and Engineers), who would do all
the preliminary work on a project of this type.
Mrs. Stanhope also offered the Housing Authority Board's
assistance with Senior Citizen Day.
Mayor Sawyer thanked Mrs. Stanhope for giving the HA report,
adding that the Council had no obj ection to elderly housing -
only objected to any additional low-income housing.
#2 Mr. Dale Stein, Texas Department of Highways and Public
Transportation, to meet with Council and discuss any problems.
Mayor Sawyer asked that this item be delayed as Mr. Stein had not
arrived.
#3 John Bierschwale, Water/Waste Water
discuss department plans with Council.
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Mr. Gilmore advised that Mr. Bierschwale was present to answer
questions Council brought up two weeks previously.
Mr. Bierschwale explained the variations in the figures of water
pumped and sold. At the end of the year it was running between
90% and 95%. He explained that anything above 80% is considered
a good system.
Mr. Bierschwale was questioned about the same 6,000 gallon figure
on his monthly reports for fire fighting. He said he used the
figures furnished by the fire department and they just gave an
estimate but in the future would be using more exact figures.
Mr. Bierschwale said that in November of 1986,
a survey of the Schirmerville area, sending
find out their needs and desires. Of the 28
to connect to city water, 3 are undecided, 5
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want to connect and 3 are already connected. From that
questionaire, they have come up with a design. When it is 0
completed, he will forward copies to the Council for approval.
Tentatively it is: phase 1 - Weir Seguin to Bienz Engleman:
phase 2 Lower Sequin Road to West of FM 1518 and phase 3 Grey town
and Weichold Roads. Mr. Bierschwale said he is looking for
partial funding through Farm and Home. This plan will service
most of the area and will furnish all the people living there
now. When the Lower Seguin Road on the West side of FM 1518 is
annexed, he is going to make a design plan for that area also.
He said he is working with Bexar County on the proposed 12 inch
line on 1-10
The approved signs by the State has been posted on 1-35 and he
will be putting up three more in Bexar County when they place
their signs.
Mr. Bierschwale said the two million gallon tank being planned
now will be 110 feet tall and will give ground and elevated
storage. It is being designed for the worse possible conditions.
Mayor Sawyer thanked Mr. Bierschwale, saying Council had enjoyed
his report.
#2 Mr. Stein having arrived, Mayor Sawyer went back to this
item.
After thanking Council for inviting him, Mr. Stein said he would
like to bring them up to date on some of the plans he is working
on. He introduced Bill Jones, the office manager in Seguin. Mr.
Stein said the most recent project is FM 3009, they are working
on the schematics now and hope to finalize within 4 to 6 weeks.
They will be looking at where additional right of way will be
required - at present it looks like that will be minimal.
In case Mr. Gilmore had not mentioned it, Mr. Stein said that on
January 25th, the Highway Department relieved the cities from the
cost of curb and gutters so the City's portion would only be
right of way costs. The only other cost might be if there is a
conflict with storm sewers, it would the City's responsibility to
relocate them.
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Another project is 1-35 expansion from Selma with a cross-over to
FM 3009. This is handled out of the New Braunfels office.
Schertz Parkway interchange is in this project. Mr. Stein said
that south of 1-35, his office handles engineering but New
Braunfels office handles maintenance. However, he said if the
City has problems maintenance wise, call on him and they will try
to arrange a solution.
When asked by Council if there would be a new access to Schertz
Parkway and FM 3009, Mr. Stein said he had not seen the 0
schematics but would check and get copies for Council.
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Mr. Stein said the other project they have been looking at for
several years is FM 78 and the By Pass. He said the position
they have taken is that they have spent so much money on route
studies and determined the best route, then they need some
definite plans if the City is not wanting to go with the present
location. Mr. Stein said that they feel with the widening of FM
78 another By Pass is needed.
Mayor Sawyer said the last time the By Pass was brought up, the
major cost would be curbs and" gutters and Council did not feel
they could afford it.
Mr. Jones said one thing to remember is that this By Pass was
designated and already had public hearings. At this time, there
is no program to add on this system. It was originally planned
at a time when they could add to the system. If the By Pass was
moved, they would have to start again from scratch. He suggested
Council keep in mind that Cibolo has approved bonds for their
project.
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Sawyer said he has heard that the Highway Department is
something on Lower Seguin Road and we are interested in
We also are interested in extending Schertz Parkway to 1-
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Mr. Jones said the signal policy has changed and over a period of
time the signals will be their responsibili ty to maintain and
construct. The other policy that has just been changed is if the
City has utilities in the State ri~ht of way, that was the City's
cost but there is now have somethlng working so that the Highway
Department could pay to have them moved. On the FM, it is still
the city's responsibility. Permits will be a little more
stringent if the State pays to move the utilities on Interstates.
Mr. Sharpe asked about the East route to Austin, saying he felt
there should be another way of getting to Seguin besides 1-10.
Mr. Stein said that is all done out of the San Antonio office and
is still up in the air as to what and where. Mr. Stein said the
initial thing is that they need to widen 1-35 to Austin rather
than buy right of way for another route. There was a law passed
to allow a Road District to be formed.
Mr. Sharpe also asked the latest on FM 3009. Mr. Stein said it
looked like it would be within two years. The drainage will go
behind CCMA and it looks 1 ike they can work on a s truc ture at
Dietz Creek. Most of the big problems would be taken care of
then.
Mr. Baldwin asked if the City needs to specify whether they want
to widen FM 78 or go with the By-Pass. Mr. Stein said they would
like to improve the existing FM 78 and raise the water crossing
but would also likt to get the loop started too.
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Mr. Stein said the short loop has already been assigned a number
but later they would need to start work on another loop.
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Mayor Sawyer said this is the first time that Council has been
told that the State would widen FM 78 and also do the loo~.
Mayor Sawyer said he has a general concensus that Council lS
willing to go along with Mr. Stein's plans for widening and the
loop.
Mr. Stein said he will check with the district and see what they
will need to get started.
There was general discussion about driveway entrance permits on
FM 3009 and Mr. Stein said now that all permits from them have on
the form "subject to approval of the City" etc.
Mr. Greenwald asked what it would take to get at least one more
signal light on FM 3009. Mr. Stein said first they are going to
upgrade the ones in place before his office will take over. He
said they have asked for a traffic survey and break down of day-
time accidents and night-time accidents and if they can do
something, they will.
Mr. Stein thanked Council for talking with them.
Mayor Sawyer called for a short recess at 8:37 p.m.
The Special Meeting was reconvened by Mayor Sawyer at 8:46 p.m.
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#4 4-21-87 Agenda Items:
A. Final consideration of an ordinance annexing 60.911
acres (Echhart Road) .
B. Final consideration of an ordinance annexing 107.63
acres (Lower Seguin Road) .
C. Discussion of electing new Mayor Pro Tern
There was no further discussion on A and B. Council agreed that
Mr. Ray Stanhope should be elected the new Mayor Pro Tern.
#5 Discussion of land purchase for water tower.
Mayor Sawyer indicated that the land desired is owned by the
Schertz-Cibolo-Universal ISD because it is high land.
Mr. Gilmore said he had met with Dr. Steele, Superintendent of
schoold, who had gotten an appraisal that showed the land at
$20,000 an acre. All 12 acres would be at $15,000 per acre and
then with the water tower it would drop $3,000 per acre to
$12,000 per acre. The location we have been talking about also
has two buildings on it used by the FFA.
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ossibility of picking up at least 1/2 acre. Mr. Gilmore said he
ad no idea what values these people will come up with. The
chool district has said they will sell the whole 12 acres. None
f the prices given is what they would sell for but is appraised
aluation.
r. Baldwin said the school board had the appraisal done because
hey had no idea what the land was worth u~ there. Their biggest
oncern is that the one acre in back the Clty wanted also has the
wo FFA buildings located on it. They estimate they have about
8,000 in materials in those barns and they are concerned about
hat the water tank is going to do to the rest of the property.
~r. Gilmore said the City is in dire need of additional land. We
re going to' have to do something about the crowding at the yard
nd move ei ther water or streets/parks department. The twelve
cres could be used.
ayor Sawyer asked why the City could not just make an offer to
school district.
Gilmore said we made an offer in the beginning of $10,000 an
cre and have not gotten an answer.
Sawyer then said that Council should wait until the School
has an opportunity to respond to our offer.
r. Gilmore said what bothers him is that the land in that area
hat was sold for $14,000 and acre and now the values have
ropped and he felt the appraisal was high.
ayor Sawyer suggested having an excutive session at the next
eeting to discuss this and by that time we might have an answer
rom the school district.
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#6 Discussion of resolution regarding the E.T.J.
etween Schertz and Cibolo.
ayor Sawyer said the sample resolution sent by Cibolo was the
esult of a conversation he had had with the then Mayor Danny
ishop. Since then the political situation in Cibolo has
hanged. Cibolo had asked that Schertz pass this resolution at
he previous meeting.
Baldwin said he would like to get together with Cibolo
ouncil and talk about the entire E.T.J. between the cities, the
rId and the suggested new.
tayor Sawyer said he agreed the two Council should get together.
I #7 Discssion of Mobile Home Ordinance.
Mr. Gilmore said that the entire Mobile Home Ordinance was 11"l,
rewritten. It has gone to Planning & Zoning and they have given
two pages of recommendations.
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Mayor Sawyer asked if this would affect our court cases and Mr.
Gilmore said it had been checked with legal advisors. Mr. 0
Gilmore said that some of the changes was for clarification and
our attornies do not think it will have any affect on the court
case.
#8 City Manager's Report.
A. Mr. Gilmore said he had some proposed transfers of
approJ?riations, mostly brought about by some requirements of City
Councll. He said he would like to place this on the next agenda.
B. Mr. Gilmore called attention to copies of a letter concerning
Mrs. Kent enclosing a certificate. She has attained the highest
rank in Animal Control. Mayor Sawyer suggested giving her a
plaque or some type of recognitition at the next regualr meeting.
C. Announcement of the TML Region 7 meeting hosted by Live Oak
for the 24th of April at the Officer's Club on Randolph. Mr.
Stanhope suggested Mrs. Kent be invited to attend this event. It
was also suggested Mrs. Austin be invited to attend.
Mr. Sharpe said as you know the Schertz Business Club honors an
Employee of the Quarter but there has been some discussion about
an Employee of the Year being honored by City Council. Has been
discussed that they be given a nice Certificate with maybe a
dinner etc.
Mayor Sawyer said he liked the idea, it is good to show employees
you appreciate them and give them something so that other
employees know also.
Mr. Sharpe recommended Alice Austin for the first one as she has
really saved the City money and time on her computer programming
that she picked up on her own time. Mr. Gilmore agreed, saying
economic wise she has done a tremendous job.
Council suggested that she be allowed to go to the annual TML
meeting in Fort Worth this year.
D. Mr. Gilmore said Mrs. Richard said that San Antonio's Rey
Feo, the Ugly King, will be at the Schertz Bank and Trust on the
22nd of April at 1:35 p.m. and asked that any of the Council and
staff who can to be there with them.
#9 Items by Council:
Mr. Sharpe said that there is a Senate Bill (SB 336, Impact Bill)
in Austin now that would drastically curtail our capitol
improvement program. Mr. Gilmore agreed, saying that it would
really affect CCMA. Mr. Sharpe suggested writing to TML and let
them know our feelings about this bill.
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Mr. Sharpe suggested that in the P&Z minutes, when they refer to
a plat it should be identified. Also when Mr. Steinmetz makes j/~
comments that are his own thoughts, they should be identified as "~I ! l.O
such and not as coming from "Staff". IlL,:;
Mr. Baldwin referring to P&Z minutes where Mr. Allen questions
the SAS Shoe sign, said he remembers when Council passed on a
variance in order for them to put up the sign.
Mr. Stanhope suggested there is a need for one-way signs
the City Hall.
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Mr. Stanhope said the traffic is bad on Oak Street.
are there in the mornings but not the afternoons.
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Mr. Stanhope said he got a call from a man that is interested in /,/ /__>
a dump station for campers. Mr. Gilmore said that citizens can</,,'~J:'r)-'
do to the Sewer Department and they can arrange to dump in the' ',~//
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Mr. Stanhope said he checked on having Council pictures taken and d:) .J (~;)
the Base Hobby Shop will take the pictures with a one-time set up (' ,\ -_:-/
fee of $25.00 and then $8.00 a piece for the pictures. ,'I..t>.
Mr. Stanhope also called attention to the bandi t sign on FM 78 t6 ?;,;~J.,/
near the Cibolo Creek Pharmacy. Mayor Sawyer asked that it be
picked up.
Mr. Greenwald mentioned the revised ordinance on Planning &
Zoning Commission, which includes having al ternates and asked
that it be on the next agenda.
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Mr. Greenwald said Council should have for their next workshop,
an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to include a new agriculture
district.
Mr. Sharpe said he had talked with Mr. Simonson about the Spring
Clean up and suggested that next year a committee be appointed to
come up with a different way of doing this. This year at every
dumpster there was a huge mess of tree limbs and appliances.
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Mr. Sharpe asked about the increase in engineering
transfer of appropriations. Mr. Gilmore said that
about by metes and bounds for annexations,
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Senior Citizen Day activities. ~::;;C,
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pictures. Mayor Sawyer said to go ahead and set it up.
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#11 Adjournment: Mayor Sawyer declared the meeting to be
adjourned at 10:12 p.m.
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