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#1 BEARING OF RESIDERTS: Mr. Bill Neller reserved time to
discuss the animal control ordinance along with Mrs. Liz Mueller,
who will be late in arriving.
#2 Representative of Cibolo Valley Jaycees to address
CounciL Mayor Sawyer said they had called and canceled this
discussion.
#3 Discussion with Planning and Zoning Commission on FM
3009 entrances and Schertz Parkway.
After asking the P&Z members to join Council at the conference
table, Mayor Sawyer explained that Council had discussed the
number of entrances on FM 3009 and Council asked for this joint
meeting.
Mr. Gilmore said that he had put together some slides to show 0
what the overlay district ordinance has done and what some of the
P&Z members and staff had been able to do with it, with
comparisons of the requirements without the overlay district.
Taking the General Business Zoning, the Overlay District requires
the following: A. landscape buffer 20 I wide saving trees and
use of native grasses encouraged; B. Oft-street parking, among
oth~l th~ng5 no ~arkin9 on Jack Hays Boulevard; C. Driveways and
Acce~~ to FM 3009 - strive to limit driveways. If ia(;l.ng Flvi
3009, the owner has constitutional rights to one acc~ss. D. No
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K. land use - all sales and service activities must take pla<;e
indoors unless an exception is granted by P&Z.
Mr. Gilmore showed slides which showed what entrances were
already on Jack Hays Boulevard prior to the overlay district;
what has been approved since - mostly on the West side.
Mr. Sharpe said he was the one that brought up the fact that the
City is not doing what we had planned for FM 3009. He stressed
that he was not against the P&Z, they are doing a good job but 0
maybe Council did not convey exactly what they intended. Mr.
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Sharpe pointed out that even if the property owner has the right
to one access, in the case of the Lone star property, they could
have use Woodland Oaks rather than another entrance on FM 3009.
The same applies to the property at Elbel and FM 3009, they could
have used Elbel for their entrance rather than FM 3009.
There was discussion about platting an access road joining
several pieces of property and having entrances off this access.
P&Z members said that developers are not leaving very much land
for commercial development - they have to get houses going to get
some of their money returning fast.
Mr. Gilmore pointed out that we could insist that developers put
in access roads but they can file against the City on
condemnation of the access road and force the City to pay for the
road.
Mayor Sawyer pointed out that you must have two entrances to a
subdivision, because of fire safety for one thing. The City has
had that policy every since Village 3 and 4 were put in with one
entrance.
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Don Wilson of P&Z said one of the things they attempted to do was
to determine not only the number of entrances but how close
together they should be. The developer next to Payless will only
be able to put in an entrances so many feet from the current one.
Mr. stanhope pointed out that with FM 3009 being a four-lane
road, the traffic will be less, especially with the completion of
Schertz Parkway.
Mr. Baldwin said it was his opinion that Council was not so
concerned with major development on FM 3009, that Council wanted
to retain the "Country Lane" look.
Mr. Andrews said that developers will put a contract on a piece
of property for ninety days to give them time to look at the
restrictions and if they don't feel it would be profitable, they
will let the contract go. You are not going to get development
to corne out here if you say no more entrances on FM 3009. If we
want growth in our City, we must take into consideration the cost
of that land because if we do not we will not have any
development.
Mr. Stanhope said he feels P&Z is doing a good job going on a
case by case basis. Maybe we should make developers plat 300
feet for commercial instead of 200 feet.
Mr. Aguilar said he felt that P&Z understands and believes the
same as Council. He said he thought P&Z knows what is meant by
the ordinances and that they should be able to decide on each
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Mr. Gilmore said the key thing according to the overlay is to let
P&Z negotiate.
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Mayor Sawyer said what he got from the discussion is that three
of the Councilmembers agree that they want businesses to have
their right to limited entrances. Do you want P&Z to continue as
they have been doing. Mr. Aguilar, Mr. Greenwald and Mr.
Stanhope said yes they do.
#4 Discussion of amending the Zoning Ordinance to include
Air Installation Compatible Use Zone.
Mayor Sawyer said this addition to the ordinance is to protect
the flight pattern at Randolph, changes that will protect the Air
Installation Compatible Use Zone.
Mr. Greenwald said RandOlph had
asked that it be tightened up a
now is that the AICUZ should
installing an AICUZ district.
periodically and this will allow
looked at our ordinance and had
little. All our ordinance says
be considered. This will be
Randolph does a new study
us to stay current.
After further discussion, Mayor Sawyer asked that this be on the
next agenda.
tank.
#5 Consideration of awarding bid on repairs to UC want
Mr. Gilmore called attention to a letter f rom Ford Engineer ing
which states they inspected the tank after staff did some
sandblasting. They recommend repairing the tank and accepting
the bid from D Brothers, Inc. for the painting and repairing.
#6 Consideration of an ordinance setting speed limits on ~M
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482.
Mr. Gilmore pointed out on the map the short portion of FM 482
within our city limits. The Highway Department is setting the
speed limits and need our permission to set it inside the City.
#7 Discussion of public hearing on March 18th on a request
by Sanders and Leon to rezone 3.56 acres on Elbel Road from R-2
to Neighborhood Services.
Mayor Sawyer asked if Council had any objection to this being on
the next agenda. Council did not object.
18 Discussion of Transfer of Appropriations.
Mr. Gilmore explained that this is a normal procedure every two
or three months during the budget year. Some of the changes are
because of growth and some because of the increased costs of nil
insurance.
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After discussion, it was agreed by all for this to be on the next
agenda.
#9 EXECUTIVE SESSION: None needed.
Mayor Sawyer recognized Mrs. Mueller and Mr. Neller, who wished
to discuss the animal control ordinance.
Mrs. Mueller said some citizens were extremely upset when they
went to the shot clinic and found out the City tag fees have gone
up to $7 -each animal and also that they would have to register
again next October. Also they were told that they were not
accepting checks.
Mr. Stanhope said he had been contacted several times about these
same things.
Council discussed various aspects of the ordinance, including
fees,and annual requirements and decided to have this item on
another workshop to fully discuss it.
Mrs. Mueller also asked about doing some modif ications at the
Shelter and being told no. Mr. Gilmore said anytime they wanted
to do anything at the shelter to modify it, they should please
come to him and they could work it out.
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#10 CITY MANAGER'S REPORT: A. If you check the monthly
health report, you will note that we did shut down an
establishment this past month until corrections were made.
B. He called attention to an extract from the Zoning News that
speaks to changes or decisions that have come out of Supreme
Court on zoning cases.
C. Mr. Gilmore said he had the map and legal description on the
proposed annexation around Gutierrez. A new law states that if
you surround an area, then you must include it in the annexation.
Council was not sure about annexing the whole thing and asked
that Mr. Gilmore get metes and bounds that only took in the CDR
property along Borgfe1d Road and FM 3009 to FM 78, staying
outside of Gutierrez' property.
D. Mr. Gilmore showed copies of two water bills one we
currently use and one he would like to change to. Council agreed
to the change.
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E. Because of the recent newspaper articles, Mr. Gilmore asked
if Council wanted to continue with the policy that all news
releases go through the City Manager. Council said yes. This
will be an item for the next agenda.
F. Have received a request from the Bluebonnet Square Dance Club
to waive the deposit fee for a dance they have planned at the
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Community Center for March 29th for students and members.
Council agreed to drop the deposit fees.
G. Thursday night there will be a Schertz Parkway meeting at
7:00 p.m. - Mr. stanhope and Mr. Greenwald are members of this
committee.
#11 ITEMS BY COUNCIL: Mr. Greenwald asked to let Mr. Jim
Harden discuss landscaping the front of the Municipal BUilding.
Mr. Harden said first the City would have to put in water and
sprinkler system. He said he will donate the plants and get the
Eagle Scouts to plant them. Mr. Harden said he would come meet
with Mr. Gilmore to discuss details.
Mr. Greenwald said the junk yard is starting up behind True
Performance again.
Mr. Greenwald said he believed Council gave Sycamore Creek
permission to have their sign up for six months and if the time
is up to have them take it down. If time not up, then they need
to fix it up.
Mr. Greenwald also said there seemed to be a proliferation of
signs on the railroad property.
Mr. Greenwald said he was asked about excessive water usage by a
citizen. Mr. Gilmore said to have the man come in and we would
check it out. Mr. Krause explained that the meter readers do
check and if excess ,usage, they do notify the owners and if
flooding, they turn the water off.
The 19th of April at 9:00 a.m. is the opening day for BVYA
Softball season Mr. Greenwald announced.
Mr. Baldwin asked the status of the Sportman's Cafe Building on
FM 78. Mr. Gilmore said the owner of the Bicycle Shop would like
to buy the property but right now he is putting all his money
into the building of his new shop.
Mr. Baldwin said the Sabastin Apartments started trenching for
their sidewalks and then quit. Mr. Gilmore said he is in the
process of finding out about that.
Mr. Stanhope asked if the ice cream trucks have to be inspected
by the Health Officer. Mr. Gilmore will check.
Mr. Sharpe said he stopped a guy selling something and asked to
see his permit. The man said it was in the van that had dropped
him off. Could the police have a list of the permit holders.
Mr. Gilmore said each person that obtains a permit are told that
they must have the permit on their person to be legal.
Mr. Sharpe said we need to send a letter to Cibolo telling them
we intend to name Dietz Road "East Live Oak Road" to our city
limits and the extension of AerolElbel would be Borgfeld Road.
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IMr. Sharpe asked if we could check with the Highway Department
land see what their plans are for FM 78 west from Seguin to FM
13009.
~r. Sharpe also suggested that we need a method of tagging signs
:I'as to whether they are permanent or temporary in order to keep
,current with them.
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IMr. Aguilar asked the outcome of the signs on the corner of FM
113009 and East Live Oak Road. Mr. Gilmore said they have to find
out who is in charge of the land.
IMr. Aguilar asked if someone selling wood has to have a permit.
Mr. Gilmore said yes, it they go door to door.
! #12 ITEMS BY MAYOR: There is a vacancy on the Housing
IAuthority. Mayor Sawyer said he would like to appoint Mrs.
Stanhope. Mayor Sawyer said he would be getting a recommendation
~rom their Board and that he would talk with Mrs. Stanhope.
#13 ADJOURNMENT: Mayor Sawyer declared the meeting
~djourned at 10:36 p.m.
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