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01-28-1997 . . . e e PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in regular session on Tuesday, January 28, 1997 at 7:00 p.m. in the Municipal Complex Bob Andrews Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas. Those present were as follows: PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF ERNIE EVANS, CHAIRMAN DAVID RICHMOND, VICE-CHAIRMAN MERWIN WILLMAN, SECRETARY PIA JARMAN TONY MORENO KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN STEVE SIMONSON, ASST. CITY MANAGER DENISE GRANGER, PLANNING SECRETARY MEMBERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT GARY WALLACE (OUT OF TOWN) KEITH VAN DINE (WORK RELATED) Sam Bledsoe, MBC Engineers Kyle Smith, Byrn Associates Jeffrey Kester, Kester Associates Paul Denham, W.F. Castella Eng. # 1 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Ernie Evans called the January 28, 1997 regular meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session January 14, 1997. Merwin Willman moved to approve the Regular Session minutes of January 14, 1997. Pia Jarman seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. #3 STATUS OF FINAL PLATS: Chairman Ernie Evans stated there were none. #4 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS: There were none. #5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from MBC Engineers for the Preliminary Plat Approval for Greenshire Unit 7. (PC #296-97) Steve Simonson stated the three major items that were to be e e . changed: the one foot non-access easement on lots 1, 13, 14, 25, 26 and 30 is shown, the approximate location of the islands in the cul-de-sac or street are shown; there is a statement that lots 42-48 will not be constructed until it is recognized that they are out of the 100 year flood plain, and all the signatures are shown as required on the check list. Also there is a statement for block 9 lots 33-36 that the rear property line shall be fenced. The parkland fees have been paid. Steve Simonson stated for David's information, they have hired a new construction company for Unit 7. It will not be the same company that has done Unit 4 and Unit 6 of Greenshire. Merwin Willman moved to approve the Final Plat for Greenshire Unit 7 submitted by MBC Engineers. Tony Moreno seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. Merwin Willman suggested that our inspectors be made aware of the possibility of a drainage problem in the cul-de-sac of Valencia Lane, so that we do not have the problem that we had in Woodland Oaks at Dimrock and Cotton King with the water problem. There may not be much water there but we need to make sure that there is no water ending up in lots 36 and 37. #6 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Jeffrey Kester, Associate for Approval of the Site Plan for the Guadalupe County Substation. (PC #298-97) . Steve Simonson stated there are three items for consideration with the letter requesting a variance on the fencing at the rear of the property. The lighting will be pole lights. There is no landscape plan attached but item #7 does show where the landscaping will be going. Item #26 shows that there will be a berm entry sign, but there are no dimensions or how it will look. These are the three specific items that are not shown that are required. Ernie Evans asked between #9 and #10 the total acreage states 50 acres. Is this 50 or 5.0 acres as on the plat it says 5.0 acres? Steve Simonson stated it should be 5.0 acres. Ernie Evans stated in the key notes on signs, it appears that there are five additional signs outside the building in the area between the walkway and the building. These signs are not identified on what they are or how they are going to look. There are five signs noted on the perimeter of the building: three to the west side and two to the east side of the building. Steve Simonon stated these are small identification signs for which departments are to go where in the building. . Merwin Willman mentioned on the east side of the building there is no parking, just a driveway around the building. There also is no -2- e e . walkway for entrances on the east side of the building. Ernie Evans stated the request for the variance is to separate the north and east side of the building from the adjoining property. The place for the dumpster is at the lower section of the building. This is shown as a three sided enclosure. Steve Simonson stated the dumpster has to be screened only from the street side. . . Tony Moreno mentioned on recent site plans that have been done, the dumpsters have had gates so it is completely enclosed. David Richmond stated on item #31 directional arrows shown on the asphalt, there are two to the east side of the building clearly showing the right hand turn after coming in from Elbel Road, but it seems there should be one on the other side on the northwest corner to preclude someone from coming in and turning left. Jeff Kester stated the flow of traffic is going to be reversed from that shown because of this concern. The one way traffic is going to start and come down towards Elbel Road. The arrows are going to be shown on the pavement and also there is going to be some signage stating "One way. Do not enter". Ernie Evans asked the dimensions of the berm sign? stated the berm sign has not been detailed as of yet. 15' in length and 4' off the ground. Jeff Kester It will be Ernie Evans asked what the proposed landscape would be? Jeff Kester stated originally the sign was different but the building was going to be in the flood plain line. Now the building has been redesigned on the lot to be out of the flood plain to the east of the property line. Prior to this change the landscape plan was 90% complete but was put on hold because of the change in the location of the building. There is going to be ground cover, shrubbery. There will be some landscaping around the berm sign and around the dumpster with the rest of the area being grass. Merwin Willman asked if there were going to be any other entries to the building other than the one? Jeff Kester stated there are several entrances to the building. Each of the departments has its own entrance on the outside of the building with three departments on the east side and two on the west side of the building. There will be a public entrance at the front of the building and a public lobby on the west side by the court room. There will also be an entrance at the rear of the building for juvenile probation use. Merwin Willman asked if the entrances on the east side are public entrances or entrances for employees? Jeff Kester stated the one on the west side is the tax assessor collector entrance, the middle is the adult probation entrance, at the upper left is the juvenile probation. There is a covered walkway at the front for public use or drivers can drop people off and then park. At the rear of the building there is a public entrance. There will be no parking signs for the public to see there is no parking. Because the -3- e e . building had to be moved out of the flood plain the parking had to be sacrificed. With the parking at the rear this was to help compensate for the no parking on the east side of the building. Ernie Evans asked why the lights are 30.5' in height? Jeff Kester stated the electrical engineer designed it so all the area would be well lighted to prevent any problems. There are state regulations on lighting. Councilman Ken Greenwald stated any county, or state building is required to have a certain amount of lighting, walkways, and entrances by law. Ernie Evans asked what the rationale is for the letter requesting a variance for the screening issue. . Jeff Kester stated essentially the building is on a site that was split in two. The County bought the west end leaving the other side as a grassy field. "We are not screening this side as it is an open space. Unless there is a true necessity we would not like to put a fence in this area". It would be costly to the County if there was a green area. This would be unsightly. The building is going to be a very attractive building and they don't want to cover it up. There is no parking on this side of the building so there will be no head lights shining on the property at night if it is developed later. Even though this is a requirement in the UDC, "we were hoping for a waiver on this requirement. If this was an area developed with houses, apartments, etc. we would put up a fence". Merwin which before business not mean zoning on Willman mentioned that the adjoining property is zoned R-1 is residential. This particular property was also zoned R-1 it was rezoned. The requirement is that any type of abutting a residential area will be screened. This does the residential area has to be built already but the the property is residential. Merwin Willman asked if the fencing on the northern part of property is the existing fence from Greenfield Village? Kester stated "yes" this is the existing fencing from development. the Jeff that Ernie Evans stated it shows that there is 250' from the back of the property to the existing fence. There wouldn't be a problem in this area. The area that there is a problem is the east side as this is zoned R-l and the request is to not have screening on that side. . Merwin Willman stated when he first looked at this plat he was under the impression that there was only going to be traffic to get around the building and there was not going to be any stop and go. In hearing tonight on how this is going to work there is going to be a lot of stop and go traffic on that side of the building, even if there is no parking, there is going to be traffic. There also is a loading area on this side of the building and two entrances. -4- . . . e e Jeff Kester stated there is a foot and half buffer between the curb and the property line along this roadway. Could a living buffer with shrubbery be planted or small trees to help screen the area? This would still make it close enough to the irrigation line that the screening would get water and not die. To take it from property corner to property corner with a living buffer would be very costly. If the Commission would approve this it would help. Merwin Willman stated this would have to be a variance. Steve Simonson stated this is why there is a letter requesting some type of variance as they are well aware of the screening requirements. Pia Jarman stated this is what we did with the Credit Union. We waived the solid fencing and then specified that they could put in a "living" buffer. Pia Jarman asked how many signs would there be? Jeff Kester stated there would be one berm sign at the entrance and small plaque signs indicating each department about five feet high, with the base of the signs landscaped. Merwin Willman stated on #11 it should indicate the number of signs and their size. Ernie Evans asked about the directional sign at the south of the building toward Elbel, pointing traffic left or right. If cars are parked in this area, will there be some indication on the pavement on how the traffic should flow? Jeff Kester stated the sign would have to be the same size and height as the departmental signs so it would be seen over the vehicles parked. Pia Jarman asked if the Commissioners are agreed on the variance for the fencing or is this still an item of discussion. Merwin Willman stated this will be discussed after the site plan as a separate item. Pia asked should this request on the fencing not be part of the site plan? Ernie Evans stated it should be. As we have discussed before, the site plan is the master plan, the thing that kicks everything off. If it is not required on the site plan, where would it be? All of the issues discussed as far as the fencing, the signs, the direction of traffic are all part of the site plan. Steve Simonson stated from a staff and planning records point of view with the amount of changes that have been mentioned on this site plan, that they resubmit the site plan with all of the changes. This would include showing what all the signs would look like, the redirection of the traffic flow with the arrows, the landscaping, and the living buffer. Ernie Evans stated this would be his recommendation based on what Steve has mentioned. Ernie Evans stated the changes that need to be made are: the correct acreage, the traffic flow, description and sizes of the departmental signs, directional sign, landscape -5- e e . and fencing on the east side, 1 1/2' area between the road property line, and the size width and height of the entry sign Elbel Road. and on Councilman Ken Greenwald asked how far the living fence would have to be? Jeff Kester stated the length of the building towards Elbel working up to ground cover. Ernie Evans stated his opinion to Mr. Greenwald's question is that the living fence should extend up to the back square parking area down to the end of the parking lot, to the corner curb and the front of Elbel Road. Pia Jarman moved to disapprove the Site Plan for the Guadalupe County Substation submitted by Jeffrey Kester & Associates requesting a new site plan be submitted containing the following: correction on the acreage; change of the directional arrows; show examples and dimensions of all signs; the buffer fencing on the east side be shown as a green living fence; and the landscape plan. David Richmond seconded the motion which carried with a unamious vote. . Ernie Evans stated for the record being that the site plan submitted was disapproved, the variance does not need to be formally addressed at this time because it accompanied the site plan. It can be resubmitted with the corrected site plan as a separate item. #7 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Associates, for the Final Plat Approval Guadalupe County Substation. (PC #298-97) Byrn for Steve Simonson stated the block number and the width of Elbel ROW are all shown. A sewer line that runs diagonally across this has been located and will need to be added to the final mylars. It runs on an angle from one man hole to the other man hole and this is where the 16' easement will be put in. This will not be near the building or affect anything. In looking at the site plan and the plat, the building is very far away from where the man hole is from the street. It is to the east. A small portion of the driveway may impact this but will have no bearing on this easement. Pia Jarman asked if the property north of the plat is that of the residents in Greenfield Village? Steve Simonson stated "yes" this is the Greenfield Village Subdivision. Ernie Evans asked of the proposed create a problem? problem. if the 10' utility easement around the east side street (as it comes around the building) will Steve Simonson stated "no" this would not be a . Merwin Willman moved to approve the final plat for the Guadalupe -6- e e . County Substation submitted by Byrn Associates. Pia Jarman seconded the motion which carried with a unamious vote. #8 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request Continental Homes, for Approval of Preliminary Plat for Carolina Crossing Unit (PC #299-97) from the 2. Steve notes, backing shown. common Simonson stated the item of attention, as mentioned in his is on the second sheet. The beginning of the greenbelt up to Deer Heaven which was part of the master plan is There is the note that this is not in the flood plain. The areas will be owned by the HOA. Ernie Evans stated this being part of a gated community, the gate details will need to be shown on the plat also. Ernie Evans asked if there would need to be non-access easements in block 4? Steve Simonson stated this is a gated community and the streets are private streets. Ernie Evans asked if the separation between homes of 15' should be noted? Steve Simonson stated it can be put on very easily but it was approved at the time of the master plan. . Ernie Evans stated on sheet two the drainage easement coming off the back street into the open space protecting Deer Haven: where is this drainage going? Paul Denham stated in the master plan this area was being left open for any drainage that would have come off of Antler Drive and "allow it to come through to our property." Once the engineers went back out to the site there was such a small amount of drainage that the drainage easement will not be needed, as it will all drain back out towards Schertz Parkway. This will be a recommendation at the final plat stage no remove this easement. Merwin Willman stated there are no street names. Merwin Willman moved to approve the preliminary plat for Carolina Crossing Unit 2 submitted by Continental Homes contingent upon the submission of the gate detail, street names, and the notation of 15' between homes. Tony Moreno seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. #9 GENERAL DISCUSSION: Tony Moreno: Tony Moreno stated he had no comments. . Pia Jarman: Pia Jarman stated she had no comments. -7- e e . Merwin Willman: Merwin Willman asked Steve if the letter to the developers that is sent on final approval on a plat is a form letter? Steve Simonson stated the letters are each typed up individually. Merwin stated the reason he asked is there is one item that should be added in reference to Article XI Section XI regarding final plats: that when construction is not started within one year, the plat will be terminated. This would be a good warning to the developers. They are allowed one sixth month extension. There are a few plats that are almost a year old and nothing has been done with the properties. David Richmond: David Richmond asked if we have ever heard from anyone from ReMax about their grand office building? Steve Simonson stated "no" and they have moved into a building in Live Oak. There was another gentleman that came in and was going to make a few changes to the plat but to date nothing has happened. Councilman Ken Greenwald: . Councilman Ken Greenwald commented on the presentation that was done by John Bierschwale. The citizens and owners of the GUADCO MUD #2 somehow have lost control so they have contacted Schertz to do the maintenance in the billing for at least six months until we find out what the real numbers are. If this proves out then we will take it over which will help. Councilman Ken Greenwald stated there are plans for water on several different options. The only concern is for the City to be in control. CRWA is doubling their plant size to handle from two million gallons a day to about eight million gallons a day. Everything they are making now they are selling. There were times this past summer CRWA was operating on more than the two million a day. There were some odor and taste problems because of the over capacity of pumping. Councilman Ken Greenwald stated we have a letter of agreement with GBRA to by 1,000 acre feet of water. Ideally it would have been to contract with New Braunfels. Let them process add about one mile stretch of their line and tie it into our 12" line and we would have water. This would not be cheap. Unfortunately their lines and the plant would have to be paid for upgrading. We are still looking at doing our own treatment. At this time there are a lot of things going on with the water issue. The City has agreed to pay $5,000.00 to the Edwards Aquifer to pay the farmers not to irrigate. Edwards had a greater response than they had anticipated. . David Richmond Councilman Ken at 6:00 p.m. asked when the FM 78 public hearing would be held. Greenwald stated it would be held on February 13th at the Municipal Complex. Steve Simonson stated -8- e e . everyone will be notified before the meeting. Steve Simonson: Steve Simonson stated in the FYI section of the packets there is a pretty good description of the Tele Communications Act of 1996 with some of the items that the City will be facing and the Commission will be facing with planning hats and zoning hats. Steve Simonson handed out information he had received from the MPO meeting he had attended on ozone levels. The changes the EPA is trying to make with the ozone levels. There is no true scientific data on ozone levels. The proposal coming out of Washington completely negates any consideration on economic damage in considering this new change to ozone levels. The cost to each individual and business is considerable. The changes that would have to take place if we have to go to this level of change would be non attainment, changes in our federal dollars, changes in how business do business. Changes that are being made are very drastic changes. Steve Simonson handed out TXDOT's sheet on environmental flow plan showing how long it takes for plans to be processed. . Steve Simonson referred to his notes to the Commission on the resurgence of North Cliffe. They have an approved plat. This is in error because back in 1993 there was an amendment to the subdivision ordinance stating that a plat for which construction has not begun within two years, the final plat is null and void. Steve will be contacting the people involved and advising them that they will have to come back to us and start the process over. Merwin Willman stated at the last meeting Steve gave the Commission a draft of the TIF meeting. One of the items is the rezoning of the general business along Schertz Parkway. This should not wait to be done. This needs to be done just as soon as possible. If a request for residential should come before us what are we going to tell them. They have to stay back the 500'? This should be looked at now and decided what is going to be done and make a recommendation to City Council and hold a public hearing by next month. Steve Simonson stated the Commission was going to give him some direction and Steve would go back to Mark Marquez and decide on a joint meeting for discussion. Merwin Parkway ideas. Willman stated the Commission needs to discuss Schertz future development so that Steve can go back to Mark with . Ernie Evans stated he agrees with Merwin but a public hearing can not be held as it is not on our agenda. Ernie asked for the request to be put on the agenda for the Commission's next meeting. -9- e e . Pia Jarman agreed with Merwin whether we resolve anything or not we should think about this and discuss it among ourselves. The joint meeting would not be the place for the Commissioners to argue among themselves. We should put it on the agenda but we should not hold a public hearing until we have had a joint meeting with TIF. Ernie Evans asked Steve when would be the next opportunity to have a meeting with the TIF? Steve stated he would have to find out as they only meet once a month. Steve stated that the Commission should put this item on the February 11th meeting as a discussion item. Ernie Evans: Ernie Evans reminded the Commission that in the month of February there is a meeting being held every Tuesday night with either a P & Z meeting or Comp Plan meeting. Ernie Evans stated he has noticed a couple of portable signs on Schertz Parkway on registration on youth activities and also the mention of speed limit changes and stop signs. . Ernie Evans mentioned in the documentation given on the Tele Communications towers, is the information given significant enough that it should be incorporated into the UDC. Steve Simonson stated "yes" and he would be bringing into the Commission a sample of an application and material to consider for inclusion to our UDC concerning the towers. Ernie Evans stated he would like a thank you at the Council meeting to all of John's people for getting the surveys out as it helped cut a lot of costs on sending out the surveys. The way that they were sent out should increase the number of returns. Ernie Evans asked the current status of Forest Ridge? Steve Simonson stated the roads are under construction and utilities are being put in. Ernie Evans small portion Parkway? asked what Carolina Crossing is going to do with the of property that is general business on Schertz Steve Simonson stated it would be fenced in with wooden privacy fencing and the business that would go in there would have to put up the masonry fence. At this time there is no business and it is not up to the homeowner to install masonry fencing. Merwin Willman stated that Carolina Crossing does not property. Steve Simonson stated "yes" this is true Crossing does not own that property. own that Carolina . Steve Simonson stated in the ordinance, a business is the one that puts the masonry fence in to block off the business from the residential area. In looking at the area the business is located -10- e e . at the end of a cul-de-sac. #10 ADJOURNMENT: Merwin Willman moved to adjourn the meeting. David Richmond seconded the motion, which carried with a unanimous vote. Chairman Ernie Evans adjourned the meeting at 9:05 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting is February 11. 1997. . f"-;C /~ , ',__/L,Vv'-, ~.. -71/, >. /", 1'- I /c... L--~ ~"""""'! Commission Chairman, Planning and ATTEST: . .1\\ c ,'/ '\ f ., - L i ' , ( " ,l, 1" .r,',. \.' 1.....1/, ,/' I \ ',.",;./11\ /\../\!~./ / \.I! (' J/~/I ~.':.:l-"" \,'"-' ~"?" ,,'I' '~". _/ Planning secre'~ary~' ~ , City of Schertz, Texas -11-