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01-09-1996 . . . e . PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in regular session on Tuesday, January 9, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas. Those present were as follows: PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF DAVID RICHMOND, VICE-CHAIRMAN MERWIN WILLMAN, SECRETARY TONY MORENO ERNIE EVANS KEITH VAN DINE GARY WALLACE KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN STEVE SIMONSON, ASST. CITY MANAGER DENISE GRANGER, PLANNING SECRETARY MEMBERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT PIA JARMAN, CHAIRWOMAN (VACATION) Greg Korman, Texaco Joy Kutz, Ecko Construction Abe Gonzales, ReMax Joe Carmona, Seguin State Bank Don McCrary, Don McCrary Engineers 11 CALL TO ORDER Due to the absence of Chairwoman Pia Jarman, David Richmond, Vice-Chairman chaired the meeting. Chairman David Richmond called the January 9, 1996 regular meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. 12 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session December 12, 1995. Merwin Willman moved to approve the December 12, Session minutes. Tony Moreno seconded the motion with a unanimous vote. 1995 which Regular carried 13 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS: There were none. 14 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Jerome Uecker, from Ecko Construction for Site Plan Approval. (PC #253-95) . . . - e Steve Simonson explained that there is a copy of the plat in the Commissioners' packets with a hand drawn copy of the site plan. This is a rather large lot but at this time they will only be developing a small portion of it. This is an after the fact site plan. Construction is underway due to the fault internally by staff. Ecko Construction has been kind enough to provide the Commission with a site plan to show what they will be doing. There will be a privacy fence with the waste containers being behind the privacy fence. The only question would be the outside lighting that would be used with the sign being on the building. This is an office building with covered parking for company trucks. Ernie Evans asked about the flood plain. Steve Simonson advised that this property is in Comal County and Comal County did not have any changes. Merwin Willman questioned what the name of the business would be? Joy Kutz advised it would be Ecko Construction. They are concrete contractors. Merwin Willman asked what the big hole is on the property and also if the building would be handicappped accessible? Joy Kutz stated the dirt in the area has a high ph and holds a lot of moisture so the dirt is being taken out and being replaced with dirt that has a low moisture fill before the building can be constructed. Also the building will be handicapped accessible throughout. Most of their work is residential but they do have the contract with Bill Miller's. David Richmond mentioned he is very grateful for the site plan, even though it is after the fact. David's concern for a commercial venture is that a hand drawn site plan and not a professional engineer's drawing will be going into the permanent file. This does not follow the City's procedures for site plans. David asked if it was too much to ask of Ecko Construction to provide a professional site plan? Steve Simonson said that he could go back and request that a professional site plan be submitted. Joy Kutz advised she has no problem with this request. This is the first she has heard that a professional site plan is needed. David Richmond explained that he understands. The City staff has acknowledged that it slipped through so we are coming back after the fact to approve. David advised that in making the site plan a matter of record for any commercial venture we approve, and have approved in the past in the City, we should have a professionally drawn site plan that adheres to our specifications. David commented this is quite different from a resident coming in with a drawing for approval of a shed, roof over a back patio, etc. This will not in any way hold up construction. It would be for the permanent record and could be handled at the next meeting. Gary Wallace asked if it could be approved in principle pending -2- e e . receipt of the professional site plan? Steve Simonson advised the building permits have been issued so there would be no need as they are under construction at this time. Tony Moreno said it would then be a good faith request. agreed. Steve Keith Van Dine asked if the request could be tabled until the next meeting? David Richmond advised that yes, it could be tabled until the next meeting. Keith Van Dine moved to table the request from Jerome Uecker, from Ecko Construction for Site Plan approval until the Planning and Zoning Commission is presented with a professionally drawn site plan at the next regular meeting. Gary Wallace seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. 15 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Korman, for Texaco for (PC #216-94) Request from Greg Site Plan Approval. . Steve Simonson advised this is the third (3) rendition of the site plan for Texaco. They have not deviated from the original signs that have already been approved. Everything else is very self explanatory the green areas, handicap parking, lighting etc., have been labeled. This is a new look for Texaco and the reason for another site plan. This new look will be the first in the San Antonio area. Ernie Evans questioned the discussion that was mentioned past about the monument sign for all the businesses on FM There is a monument sign indicated on the site plan. in the 3009? Steve Simonson stated nothing has become of that joint monument sign on FM 3009. The Zemex owners have been told about this. Until they can agree, there will not be a sign. Steve advised he will contact Zemex again to check on what the status is. The original agreement is that there would be a monument sign shared by all of the businesses in the area. This would prevent all the businesses wanting their own sign higher and higher. The Commission could approve the site plan with a caveat on the sign. Merwin Willman asked for clarification: on the left side of the building there are initials QSR drive-up. What does that stand for? Greg Korman advised it stands for Quick Service Restaurant. Merwin Willman moved to approve the site plan from Greg Korman, for Texaco except for the monument sign on FM 3009. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. . 16 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Brad Cutright, for Seguin State Bank for Site Plan Approval. (PC #226-95 C) -3- . . . e e Steve Simonson stated this is going to be a very nice addition to FM 3009. One item to note is there are two (2) handicap areas, a total of four (4) spaces. They do not show the little symbols but they are indicated by the diagonal lines which is legal. Handicap parking can be labeled either with the handicap symbol or the lines. There is one question on how high the clock will be on the front of the building. Joe Carmona advised he is new on the job and does not have that information. Gary Wallace asked if there would be an outdoor ATM? The reason he is asking is because of all the personal security problems that are happening around San Antonio. Steve Simonson advised it is not indicated on the site plan but it looks as if the ATM will probably be located in the drive through lanes with all of the lighting. Merwin Willman moved to approve the request from Brad Cutright, for Seguin State Bank for the site plan. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. #7 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Abe Gonzales, for Remax Subdivision for Final Plat Approval. (PC #252-95) Steve Simonson stated the preliminary plat was approved at the last meeting but due to the lack of signatures the Commission would not approve the final plat. All the information is now on the plat other than the signatures that are required by us. Utilities and streets are already in place. This is a very straight forward plat. Gary Wallace emphasis is residential. asked how on masonry they are allowed to use wood when walls to separate businesses the from Steve Simonson mentioned that masonry walls are used on major thoroughfares, areas facing where there is generally heavy traffic, and things of this nature. Tony Moreno moved to approve the request from Abe Remax Subdivision for final plat. Merwin Willman motion which carried with a unanimous vote. Gonzales, seconded for the #8 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Don McCrary, for Schertz, Cibolo, Universal City ISD for Preliminary Plat Approval. (PC #255-96) Steve Simonson advised that this area has already been recommended to City Council for approval for a Specific Use Permit. City Council has already approved. The school will be located in Savannah Square. They are platting for the school to be on either Savannah Drive or Inglewood Drive in Ashley Unit 2. They have put -4- . . . e e both utilities and drainage in the 25' easement on the south end of their property. They will slope the land to be able to get the water moving to where it has to go. Merwin Willman questioned the water being able to go to the drainage the way it is noted in Ashley Place. Steve Simonson agreed but said there is not going to be a lot of water. The construction plans will have to prove that yes, the water will go the way they have indicated. Merwin Willman asked if along Savannah Drive should they not be showing the one (1) foot non-access easement? They are going to have to put in a drive but should this be shown? Steve Simonson advised if the one (1) foot non-access easement is put in then you are preventing them from being able to put in a driveway. Tony Moreno asked if they have indicated where the building will be located? Steve Simonson advised not at this time. If the Commission wishes to know where the building will be located they will be contacted for that information to be available. Ernie Evans stated that Inglewood Drive is not platted so how would you determine curb cuts, etc? Merwin Willman advised when it is platted they will have to show where the curb cuts will be. Steve Simonson stated Inglewood Drive is not a through road like Savannah Drive. It is a residential street. The real question is if you put the one (1) foot non-access easement you would prevent the school from putting in a driveway. The school will not be putting in more that one ingress and egress. Steve suggested to put the one (1) foot non-access on the other side of Savannah Drive so you will not have to worry about traffic coming in from the other side. Gary Wallace moved to approve the request form Don McCrary, for Schertz, Cibolo, Universal City ISD for the Intermediate School preliminary plat. Tony Moreno seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. #9 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request McCrary, for Ashley Place Unit 3 Plat Approval. (PC #254-96) from Don Preliminary Steve Simonson advised to review this plat you need to look at the location map to be able to put it together. Ernie Evans stated he went back to Woodland Oaks 6-A which it notes on the check list. Ernie asked how to distinguish what change this is referring to. Steve Simonson stated on sheet 3, Unit 6-A is identified when they -5- . . . e e platted. They took th$ drainage in Unit 6-A, platted a dotted drainage ditch, and ran it up outside of the property line. They are doing away with that and carrying the water a different way. They are saying that it is not needed and carrying it down to a drain on lot 1. The water will get there by using the streets. The back yard 10' drain is not needed. Our engineers will have to prove that the change will work this way. Based on the preliminary talks Steve has had on the way it is showing the water moving, it should not be a problem. Ernie Evans asked if this has been coordinated between the two builders? Steve advised that yes, it has. What Unit 6-A Woodland Oaks was doing was putting in an imaginary drain on someone else's property. Don McCrary took a look at it and severely questioned the calculations being used by Cude Engineers for Woodland Oaks. Based on this, Steve advised the City Engineers to take a close look at the situation. It does not look like a large problem doing what they are showing, as they are carrying the 10' drain up to lot 1 through the street with the street carrying the water which will not be a problem. Steve reiterated that this is the preliminary plat and until he gets the engineering information back, the Commission will not be asked to approve a final plat. Ernie Evans asked if the water will not be going into a storm drain? Steve Simonson advised it will be going into an open cement drainage ditch. Merwin Willman commented the water will be coming down Ashley Oak Drive to Sycamore then turning right on Sycamore to hit the drainage. Steve Simonson agreed. Merwin Willman asked what is going to prevent the water from going straight down into Woodland Oaks? Steve advised, the way the street will be crowned. The construction plans will have to prove this before the final plat will be approved. Merwin stated he would like a written O.K. from the Engineer before this plat is given final approval. The other Commissioners were in agreement. Merwin Willman mentioned in the same area they are platting an 18' drainage easement. When you get into Woodland Oaks it is a 12' drainage easement. Would this make a difference? Steve Simonson advised until the construction plans can be reviewed this can not be answered. When the preliminary calculations were run on Ashley Place for what they will be putting into this existing drain, the free board went up only six (6) inches. The water has already been going into the drain. It is not new water, it is just going to get there sooner. Once you have saturation, it will be the same amount of water. Merwin Willman commented there would be more water because of all the ground being covered with buildings and driveways which will prevent more run off. Don McCrary advised that the drain is an existing drain. Basically it will be a pickup structure that is built along the street with the street being graded to create a sump or low point. This causes -6- . . . e e the water to turn and come down and go into the existing drain that has been checked out, and will carry the amount of water with no problem. Merwin Willman stated when Ashley Place was first started they were authorized 30% of the lots to be 55' X 120'. Who is keeping track of this to see if this has been exceeded? Steve advised he would have to go back to Unit 2 and Unit 3 to get this information. There is an extremely good mix. Don McCrary stated he would be able to provide this information before the final approval on Ashley Place Unit 3. Tony Moreno moved to approve the request from Don McCrary, for Ashley Place Unit 3 preliminary plat. Merwin Willman seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. 110 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request McCrary, for Dove Meadows Unit 4 Plat Approval. (PC #256-96) from Don Preliminary Steve Simonson stated that there are a few changes needed on this preliminary plat which Don McCrary is aware of. The reason there are no street names is due to the fact that the owners are not sure what names they want to use from the list that has already been approved. The 100 year flood plain information needs to be corrected. The proposed drainage ROW is a completed existing drainage ROW which will be on the final plat. For the Commissioners' information: on the proposed drainage ROW this is 1.6 acres which was platted under Greenfield Unit 3 correction, Volume 5, page 135A, 24 October 1990 recorded in Guadalupe County. The area that is shown dotted where the curve comes is actually an area that used to be the ROW which is now abandoned. It is on the same plat and is 1.34 acres reverted back to the original owners. Along the back on Dietz Road, Don McCrary has put in a 5' common area. Don McCrary stated the reason behind the 5' common area on Dietz Road is due to the fact of on-going negotiations trying to develop all the streets. Cibolo thinks they have a problem as they have 55' and they want 60'. This developer has tried to work with Cibolo to no avail on this problem by glvlng them the other property. The proposal is to give the 5' of common area to the Homeowners Association. If and when the street development takes place, the Homeowners Association can deed that property to Cibolo if they wish. This helps to eliminate the problem with the City of Schertz and the other land owners involved to have to pick up the 5' from each of them. This is the easy way out by putting it in the hands of other people to deal with at a different date. Ernie Evans asked if this issue involves the location of the school? Steve Simonson stated no, this is an on-going argument with Cibolo. -7- . . . ~ e e It has to do with when the road is widened what the size of it will be. Originally the developer gave 10' of the ROW before this was brought before the Commission. IF and when Dietz Road gets worked out, this is the best way for the Homeowners Association. Merwin Willman asked for clarification with this being the last unit for Dove Meadows. Will the recreation area that they have proposed take care of their requirement for dedicated park land? Steve Simonson 'advised that yes, because they get 1/2 credit along with the 2 acres that was given in Unit 1. Between the two parcels they have met the park land requirement. Merwin Willman asked about the paper work for the drainage flood area? Steve Simonson stated it has not yet been received. Don McCrary is still working on this. Don McCrary stated that there was a mistake made by the Federal Government and they are trying to work things out. Merwin Willman moved to approve the request from Don McCrary, for Dove Meadows Unit 4 preliminary plat. Tony Moreno seconded the motion which carried as follows: AYES: Tony Moreno, Merwin Willman, Gary Wallace, Keith Van Dine, and David Richmond. NAYS: None. ABSTENTIONS: Ernie Evans. 11 GENERAL DISCUSSION: Tony Moreno: Tony Moreno stated he had no comments. Keith Van Dine: Keith Van Dine stated he had no comments. Gary Wallace: Gary Wallace stated he had no comments. Ernie Evans: Ernie Evans asked Steve if he had an answer from the question the other day on the Paragon Cable Boxes being put into the sidewalks. Steve Simonson advised that it is being checked into at this time. They will have to do one of two things; maintain the four (4) foot sidewalk or reestablish the sidewalk and put the boxes back to the original location. This work is being done in the Savannah Square area. Merwin Willman: -8- e . . Merwin Willman to the BOA recommendation extra work and which will have mentioned that in the past on any action that goes the Planning and Zoning Commission makes a by sending a letter. Maybe we should stop this send the BOA a copy of the P & Z minutes to review our comments, discussion and recommendation. Steve Simonson commented in doing this the minutes would not be approved because of the time frame. With the BOA being set up ahead of time a meeting could be the following week. Merwin said maybe just a draft. Steve stated when there is not a problem in the timing of the minutes being approved, this would not be a problem. We do not want the citizens waiting a lengthy time just for the minutes having to be approved. After a lengthy discussion it was agreed to continue with sending a letter of recommendation to BOA as has been done in the past. If the minutes from the P & Z have been approved then they will be used in the packets for information purposes. Steve Simonson: Steve Simonson advised the Commission to mark their calenders for a joint meeting with City Council on January 31, 1996 to discuss the UDC. The UDC books for the Commission will be distributed at the January 23, 1996 P & Z meeting. . Councilman Ken Greenwald: Councilman Ken Greenwald mentioned in the newsletter there is a copy of the recycling schedule for 1996. In the current newsletter you will notice that 800,000 lbs. has been kept out of the waste stream. For a small city this is a very significant amount. Councilman Ken Greenwald handed an article out from Mr. Bill West, GBRA. Mr. West has come to the conclusion that selling a lot of water out of Canyon Dam makes a few bucks but selling treated water will make them a lot more money. Merwin Willman asked about the portable sign on Main Street and Randloph Blvd. for the karate business. Do they still have a permit? Steve said he would check with the Inspection Department on how much longer they have. David Richmond: David Richmond asked Steve if there is any word on HEB. Steve advised there is no word at this time. He has heard that HEB will build in 1996 at our site. Contractors have been calling the City questioning what our building codes are. HEB does their construction plans by telling contractors what they want and then reviewing proposals. By the end of 1996 we should have our HEB. . David Richmond mentioned that at this evening's meeting we had some complete and not so complete applications. Some come in at the -9- . . . ...... . . last minute but all applications should be complete when they come before the Commission. David Richmond stated Pia Jarman made him aware of the following. On behalf of the Commission he would like to thank Denise for coming back early from her vacation so she could get our packages ready and available to us on time. David Richmond reminded everyone that at the previous meeting it was mentioned about naming something for Bob Andrews. We do not want to let this drift too long. We should take appropriate action by the next meeting to make a recommendation to City Council. If you recall we talked about the conference room being dedicated. Pia had another thought to think about the xeriscape park out at Dove Meadows. This is going to be a very nice park with a lot of planning taking place. 112 ADJOURNMENT: Keith Van Dine moved to adjourn the meeting. Gary Wallace seconded the motion, which carried with a unanimous vote. Chairman David Richmond adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting is January 23, 1996. {j~L2~Jv Chairman, Planning and Zoning Commission ATTEST: l; , "I , ,,'\..~' ~ ' '/J , /)~.LL ~I/~-/n~/ L/ Planning Secretary ./ City of Schertz, Texas -10-