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04-09-1996 . . . . . PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission conducted a public hearing on Tuesday, April 9, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas. Those present were as follows: PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF PIA JARMAN, CHAIRWOMAN DAVID RICHMOND, VICE-CHAIRMAN MERWIN WILLMAN, SECRETARY TONY MORENO ERNIE EVANS GARY WALLACE KEITH VAN DINE KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN STEVE SIMONSON, ASST. CITY MANAGER DENISE GRANGER, PLANNING SECRETARY MEMBERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT 11 CALL TO ORDER Sam Bledsoe, MBC Engineers Ronald Schrandt, Windy Meadow Pat Lackey, River City Engineers David Kasper, River City Engineers Chairwoman Pia Jarman Jarman explained the hearing and thanked City Council public 1996. called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Pia procedures to be followed at the public everyone for their concerned interest. The hearing on this item will be held April 16, 12 PUBLIC HEARING: To Receive Citizen Input on a Request from Sam Bledsoe, MBC and Associates, to rezone approximately 17.7592 acres Greenshire Subdivision Unit 7 from NS (Neighborhood Services) to PUD (Planned Unit Development). (ZC #128-96) Steve Simonson stated two (2) letters within 200' of this rezoning request. and the United Methodist Church with There was no other input or phone calls were sent to property owners The owners of the property no replies received back. received on this request. . . . e e With no Hearing p.m. other comments or questions Pia Jarman closed the Public for the request from Sam Bledsoe, MBC Engineers at 7:02 13 ADJOURNMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING: Chairwoman Pia Jarman adjourned the Public Hearing at 7:02 p.m. The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session, after the public hearing. 14 CALL TO ORDER: Chairwoman Pia Jarman called the April 9, 1996 regular meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. '5 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session for March 26, 1996. Merwin Willman stated on page 7 top paragraph last sentence: "There will be an emergency breakaway gate" needed clarification on where the gate should be. It should read "There will be an emergency breakaway gate at the end of Oak Street fronting onto Maske Road." Merwin Willman moved to approve the March 26, 1996 Regular Session minutes as amended. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. 16 STATUS OF FINAL PLATS: Pia Jarman stated the final replat, lot 13, The Village and the final plat for Schuetz Subdivision were signed. 17 CITIZENS: INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS There were none. 18 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Request from Sam Bledsoe MBC and Associates, to rezone approximately 17.592 acres Greenshire Subdivision Unit 7 from NS (Neighborhood Services) to PUD (Planned Unit Development). (ZC #138-96) Merwin Willman said he would like to know what insurance the City is going to have that this will be a PUD with large home site lots. With a PUD they can put any size lot they choose. Steve Simonson stated that the Commission would have to approve the size of the lots. Sam Bledsoe advised that the lots will by 80 X 120 similar to the Unit 6 development on the right hand side of Greenshire. -2- . . . e e Merwin Willman mentioned if the lots are going to be R-6 size then why not zone R-6 instead of PUD. Merwin Willman commented this is the reason he is not in favor. PUD is supposed to be a mix of three (3) different types of land use. Pia Jarman commented once the UDC has been accepted then there will be no more PUD. But until then the ordinance that is in effect has to be followed. Tony Moreno questioned Steve if the subdivision was originally PUD. Steve Simonson stated that is true. Tony Moreno said then they are working through the history of the subdivision finishing it out. Gary Wallace asked if this would be the last unit developed. Steve Simonson stated this would be the last unit up front. Steve said as he mentioned in his notes this will ensure that everything from FM 3009 excluding the Methodist Church will be large lots. Keith Van Dine stated if it is zoned as a PUD and the developers do not hold up to the PUD then the Commission doesn't approve it. Steve Simonson agreed. Steve Simonson stated the Commission has already approved a Master Plan. As part of the over all Master Plan this area is already a PUD. It was showing all large lots in the front and they are coming back just to rezone the last piece of property in the front which is commercial property. Originally when this piece was done it was all zoned PUD even though it showed multi-family as well as commercial. But it did not have separate zoning, it was all PUD. Several years later the Planning and Zoning Commission went back on FM 3009 and down zoned it from general business to neighborhood services and in some cases from neighborhood services to office/professional, to have better control on what went into the area. The front part was rezoned back to PUD in the R-6 area with the remainder of the property that they own in the front to be PUD. Gary Wallace moved to forward to the City Council for public hearing with recommendation for approval from Planning and Zoning the request submitted by Sam Bledsoe, MBC and Associates to rezone approximately 17.592 acres Greenshire Subdivision Unit 7 from NS (Neighborhood Services) to PUD (Planned Unit Development). Tony Moreno seconded the motion which carried as follows: AYES: Pia Jarman, David Richmond, Ernie Evans, Gary Wallace, Keith Van Dine, Tony Moreno. NAYS: Merwin Willman. 19 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Ronald Schrandt, Windy Meadow Master Plan. (PC #264-96) Steve Simonson stated all the items on the check list that were requested at the last meeting to be changed have been changed. However this is a realigned Master Plan compared to what was submitted the last time, particularly Unit 3. It is clearly -3- . . . e e labeled what will be single wide and what will be double wide. There also is a breakout showing the mix. The typical lot plans as requested are shown: how a mobile home will sit, the concrete pad, and the utilities. Gary Wallace asked why Jasmine Lane in phase 3 is not going out to Maske Road. Steve Simonson stated for security reasons there is not going to be but one opening onto Maske Road. With the road coming from Schertz Parkway at some point in time Maske Road will have to become a pass through road. Merwin Willman said that the plat is not showing the breakaway gate location. Is there going to be a recreation area for this new area, if not how will the residents get from the new section to the old section to the recreation center? Ronald Schrandt stated there will not be another recreation center as there is a center in the existing park. There will be a sidewalk put in by the drainage area off of Magnolia Lane. Pat Lackey said the breakaway gate will be shown in the subdivision construction plans but he will be very happy to show the location on the plat also. Merwin Willman mentioned the street names as stated in the ordinance are supposed to be approved by the Commission. Merwin has no objection to these names but as stated in the ordinance the Commission is supposed to approve the street names. At the last couple of meetings there have been plats approved with the street names never coming before the Commission for approval. He said either we should follow the ordinance or if we are not going to do it, it should be taken out of the ordinance. Steve Simonson said the Post Office is the final authority on approval of street names. This procedure has been deleted in the UDC. Merwin Willman stated if we had the names then the Commission would be able to determine if there is any duplication within the City. The Commission needs to be sure there is not any duplication or any same sounding of names for safety reasons. Ron Schrandt said they have submitted the names of the streets to the Schertz Post Office and they in turn have submitted the street names to the Main Post Office in San Antonio. Ernie Evans moved to approve the request submitted by Ronald Schrandt, Windy Meadow Master Plan with the amendments as follows: show the breakaway gate location and the sidewalk access to the recreation area. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote. -4- e e . 110 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Ronald Schrandt, Windy Meadow Unit 2 Final Plat. (PC #265-96) Steve Simonson said as noted this would be phase 1. There is one item missing: the 100 year flood plain statement. Pat Lackey faxed a letter to him today stating the information for the 100 year flood plain would be on the plat of Unit 1. The reason this will be on phase 1, Unit 2 as stated in Steve's notes is because of a flood plain situation that will have to be eliminated. The other item that Mr. Lackey would like to have is a variance approval to have carports with awnings over the 20 x 20 parking pads for the proposed units. Merwin Willman questioned what they mean by "awnings." Ron Schrandt said they would be free standing metal awnings over the parking pads which are 20 x 20. Pia Jarman asked with the units being called "phases" or "units" is there any way to have all the terms named the same, either "units" or "phases". . Steve Simonson stated it could be done as phase 2 unit 2, phase 3 unit 3. If on the Master Plan the Commission would like it to be unit 2 Master Plan without phases the lines could be left in with the Master Plan showing unit 2, 3, and 4. This can be relayed back to the engineer for the Master Plan to show unit 2 and unit 3 and then plat accordingly. Ernie Evans said with the carport issue it should be delineated or should be shown on the plat to define what it is. They are asking for the variance because it will be located up front on the parking pad with the parking pad being the only thing in the setback zone. Ernie Evans stated because this discussion is a variance to the units which will include the entire subdivision if the variance is going to be approved. Normally when we talk about variances we know a little more about what we are discussing and what we are expecting in terms of the variance. If we are going to approve or consider the variance it should be clarified by being shown on the plat so we know what we are approving a variance for. In the letter as it is written it states the houses on Oak Street will not be affected, only the houses on Magnolia Lane and Cherry Blossom Drive. Pia Jarman questioned if there has to be a variance. Steve Simonson stated that, yes, there has to be a variance granted, as carports are allowed only in R-2 zoning and this is a mobile home park. . Pia Jarman asked if the reason for the objection to carports because of the size of the lots. Steve Simonson said he is sure but carports are only allowed in R-2 zoning. is not -5- e e . Merwin Willman stated the reason for this is because back when urban renewal was building in the city it was found that the garages in Aviation Heights were built for small cars. With the new larger cars back in the 70's, the carports were not wide enough. One restriction that Merwin would like is for all sides to be open so it will not obstruct view of traffic. Ronald Schrandt stated this is their intent. Steve Simonson said if this variance is approved for unit 2 when units 3 and 4 are submitted there can be a note on the plat for the carports. Ernie Evans asked if Steve would request a correction to the letter. Steve Simonson stated he would ask for a correction to the letter and on the master plat a correction with the notes as requested by the Commission. Tony Moreno asked if they would have to follow some type holding down the awning. Steve Simonson said they would by the building codes that meet stress and wind codes type of anchor. of code in have to go with some David Richmond questioned what the correct name of the subdivision is Windy Meadows or Windy Meadow. Steve Simonson stated it is Windy Meadow. . Gary Wallace moved to approve Windy Meadow Unit 2 final plat submitted by Ronald Schrandt, with the proviso that it be amended to include the 100 year flood plain statement, variance for the 20 X 20 parking pad with awning, and a note for location of the breakaway gate on Oak Street. Tony Moreno seconded the motion which carried as follows: AYES: Pia Jarman, Daivd Richmond, Merwin Willman, Gary Wallace, Keith Van Dine, Tony Moreno. NAYS: Ernie Evans. 111 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Ronald Schrandt, Windy Meadow Unit 3 Preliminary Plat. (PC #266-96) Steve Simonson stated on the second sheet, Jasmine Lane exceeds the length that is allowed for a cul-de-sac to be put in, in a residential area. It is exceeded by approximately 92.59'. This will require a variance to allow this street to be as long as planned. Steve's greatest concern was for the Fire Department. The Fire Chief and Fire Marshall have talked with Steve about this and they have formally submitted a letter that states "We have reviewed the proposed site plan for the expansion of Windy Meadow and find no specific problems for the fire department. We also have no particular problem with the length of Jasmine Lane provided at least two fire hydrants are installed on this street." . Merwin Willman questioned what the width of the street would be and -6- e e . would parking be allowed on both sides of the street. Schrandt stated the width of the street would be 30'. restrictions the residents are advised that parking is not on the street. Ronald In the allowed Ernie Evans questioned if the sidewalks would have to be shown on this plat. Steve Simonson stated that typical sidewalks are not shown on the plat, only in the Master Plan and the construction plans. The item that is missing is the flood plain statement and until this item is worked out with the City Engineers this plat will not be finalized until it is satisfactory. Keith Van Dine moved to approve the request submitted by Ron Schrandt, Windy Meadow Unit 3 preliminary plat to include the flood plain statement and the variance for the length of Jasmine Lane provided there are two (2) fire hydrants on this street. Tony Moreno seconded the motion which carried as follows: AYES: Pia Jarman, David Richmond, Ernie Evans, Gary Wallace,Keith Van Dine, Tony Moreno. NAYS: Merwin Willman. (Due to the length of the street, he feels it is too much of a variance). . 112 GENERAL DISCUSSION: Tony Moreno: Tony Moreno stated he had no comments. Keith Van Dine: Keith Van Dine said his concern with parliamentary procedures is when variances are included, that are not on the agenda, this seems to stray us away. Should maybe the agenda item that asks for "citizen's input other than agenda items be labeled input other than agenda items?" This would keep this open to other items needing to be addressed. Pia Jarman said she did not feel this was the intent of "citizen's input other than agenda items." On the agenda as long as it pertains to the agenda item, you are still allowed to discuss related requests and issues. Steve Simonson stated as long you are not straying away from the original objective, everything that is being discussed, still pertains to the agenda item. On the agenda it states "consider and make recommendation" it does not specify exactly what recommendation. 4It Gary Wallace: Gary Wallace stated he had no comments. -7- e e . Ernie Evans: Ernie Evans said in Ashley Place Unit 3 which is now under construction down to Savannah Square: Are they still intending to extend Savannah Drive? Steve Simonson stated that, yes, and Unit 4 will not be platted unless it shows the street going all the way through. Ernie Evans stated the reason he did not approve the final plat for Windy Meadow was because in earlier discussions the Commission had agreed to not accept final plats with contingencies. Merwin Willman: Merwin Willman said he would like to bring to everyone's attention the copy of the ordinance passed by City Council that was included in the packets, in regards to the rezoning of Aspen Homes. Notice it states to rezone to R-6 Single Family Dwelling District (Gated Community), the rezoning having nothing to do with wheter the area is gated or not. Gary Wallace commented that means we are picking and choosing. Merwin Willman agreed it is just like in our current ordinance in regard to PUD's. With things that have happened in the past Merwin feels he knows too much of the history of not following the ordinance. . Steve Simonson stated he disagrees with Merwin as the Commission has total authority in a PUD Single Family to designate what size lots will be allowed. What happened in the past was that no one paid attention to what the sizes of the lots were on the plats. The Planning and Zoning Commission that is here now, is very clear what size lots are allowed. Steve would bring it up to the Commission if there were a problem with the lots not being what was authorized in the Master Plan as this is part of Steve's job. The problem was that in Savannah Square no one paid attention to the lot sizes. They came in with R-5 lots which is garden homes. Merwin Willman stated that they did not comply with a PUD as defined because you are supposed to have three (3) different uses. Merwin said he felt that the City Council may be sending a letter to Planning and Zoning about PUD being taken out of the UDC. It was discussed at the City Council's last meeting. David Richmond: David Richmond said with the nice weather he has noticed on Woodland Oaks Drive and FM 3009 there are citizens taking advantage of the entrance making it look like a car lot with all the cars having "for sale" signs. Some time ago there was a sign posted "no trespassing" on that corner. . Steve Simonson said that the inspection department keeps after the car owners but the people state they have the authorization of the -8- e e . land owners because they have asked them. Merwin Willman mentioned that Quality Closeout has moved and they have 30 days to remove their sign according to the ordinance. Pia Jarman: Pia Jarman said that she had heard something nice about the Planning and Zoning and would like to pass it along. She talked with a gentleman from Cornado Paint who is an Environmental Engineer. He commented on how well the City has kept the industrial businesses away from the residential areas. "Although we ourselves did not do this, because Merwin has been here so long he may have had something to do with it. The gentleman commented in a lot of the areas he has to go, cities have industrial areas near schools etc. . Pia Jarman stated that in most organizations, the chair does not vote except to break a tie. In City Council, for example, it is the mayor plus five Council members with the mayor voting to break a tie. There have been three meetings, one after the other, where we have had an even number of members present, in two instances resulting in ties. Pia's idea is since the Commission does not get a salary perhaps one more member could be added and the chair would be a non voting member unless there is a tie. Pia said the meeting on April 29th on 'the Impact fees should not be a long meeting and maybe the Commission can discuss this matter afterwards if everyone is in agreement. Councilman Ken Gre(9nwald: Councilman Ken Gr(genwald said in the presentation for Windy Meadow he does not care for the 6' on the back side as the door is going to be about half way from the slab. With most people wanting to put a deck, in this instance, they would not be able to. Councilman Ken Greenwald stated that at the Council meeting last week there was qui-te alot of discussion on the gated community with a lot of differl9nt comments being made. Tomorrow night at the workshop it is on the agenda for discussion on gated communities. Something may come back to Planning and Zoning, he is not quite sure. Everyone has his own feelings. One question on the UDC: there were a couple of members who did not feel there is enough "teeth" to enforce compliance with the UDC. Steve Simonson stated there was only one area that the lawyers did question and it has been rewritten. Basically the lawyers feel this is the best written document anyone has. . Councilman Ken Grt:~enwald stated Johnny Bierschwale and he attended the CRWA meeting last night and the discussion was the plant operation. In just one year they are running at 80% capacity, treatment and pumping at 1.8 million gallons a day. There are three water systems currently tied into them. In a couple of weeks -9- . . . e e when Johnny comes back before the Commission he will have some tentative plans on alternative water sources. In the long range CRWA is one of the sources but the cost of the pipe is what may present a problem. There are some other sources that are a lot closer and cheaper. Steve Simonson: Steve Simonson stated he had no other comments. Pia Jarman reminded the Commission that next Tuesday April 16, 1996 before the Council meeting, the Council will be dedicating the conference room in Bob Andrews' memory. '13 ADJOURNMENT: Keith Van Dine moved to adjourn the meeting. Gary Wallace seconded the motion, which carried with a unanimous vote. Chairwoman Pia Jarman adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting is April 23, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. man, Planning and Zoning Commission Schertz, Texas ATTEST: ,~'~ j //7 ,',-,," j ? ,/ c -"11 t (' I :' ;>/'1 /////'11/" ,/( , ",,/ '~'.,/ .<L-A,_./ /~', [,../> )' , ~_ '-/ Planning Secretary City of Schertz, Texas -10-