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05-23-1989 ~-,^' ....... _...-"'....._........,--"~_..., JL......-".~..~..:.h... ......._.....~L.~_'''_.._...,......... ..r.....~. .IL....:'."'...'- _. .To...f;....to"'t,:. ..........;;... __.~. '.1." ".' ~..'j_."t".J.l:3....-.\<.\..._'J.l.:J .:,.:&..;,',.:i.~':'j,~ \, . . PLANNING AND. ZONING MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened ina regular seSSlon on Tuesday, May 23, 1989 at 7:00 P.M. in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway. Those present were as follows: PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT TY BRISGILL, CHAIRMAN KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY MERWIN WILLMAN GEORGE VICK JOE POTEMPA KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN JIM SHRIVER, CHAIRMAN CITIZENS LEADERSHIP PANEL CITY STAFF MEMBERS ABSENT STEVE SIMONSON, ASST. CITY MANAGER NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECRETARY BOB ANDREWS #1 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Brisgill called the.~.meeting to order at 7: 00 P.M. ~ #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session May 9, 1989 Joe Potempa asked that on Page 5, Paragraph 10, the last sentence "As a point of order, the motion died for lack of a second" be stricken and replaced with a sentence reading "Mr. Potempa withdrew the motion". George Vick made a motion to approve the minutes, as amended, for the regular session May 9, 1989. Merwin Willman seconded the motion and the vote was as follows: AYES: K. Van Dine, M. Willman, G. Vick, J. Potempa NAYS: None ABSTENTIONS: T. Brisgill Motion carried. 13 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS There was none. '4 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Vice-Chairman Planning and Zoning Commission for Geor~e Vick volunteered to serve as Vice-Chairman. Joe Potempa also vOfunteered. to serve .as Vice-Chairman. . . steve simonson announced that even though Bob Andrews could not attend the meeting this evening, he! had volunt~ered to serve as "Vice~Chairman if no one els~ i~ interested in the position~ Chairman Brisgill voiced the circumstances, it might be more vote. The Commission agreed. opinion, that under the appropriate to take a written A written vote was taken and Joe Potempa won.by 3 votes to 2, so the recommendation for his approval will be forwarded to City Council. #5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Applicants for" Planning Commission Discussion of and Zoning The Commission ,had received, in their packages, copies of six applications from people still interested who had applied when the position was open previously. Copies of an additional application, received today, was also passed around for them to look over. ~.~ ' ~ :~: r Chairman Brisgill informed the Commission he had written up a message for the Newsletter in which he had mentioned the vacancy. Mr. Brisgill's suggestion was to look over the applications they now have, see if the _ Newsletter generates any more applicants, and then decide from there when they want to put the interviewing of the applicants on the agenda. George Vick commented on the super qualifications of some of the applicants. Mr. Vick also remarked that since it is going to be advertised in the Newsletter, he thinks it's only fair that they wait to see if the article generates any more candidates. There was a brief discussion about a cut-off date for taking applications and exactly when the Commission-wanted to interview the candidates. It was decided to include in the article in the Newsletter a statement asking - all those interested to turn in their applications by June 9, and to request they attend the meeting on June 13. Keith Van Dine reminded everyone of the list of questions for candidates the Commission had compiled some : time ago. Mr. Van Dine felt it should be discussed ahead of tim~ who's going to ask which questions. There is a joint public hearing on June 6 after which the Commission will hold a special session. The consensus of the Commission was to have discussion on' the questions for candidates be an item scheduled on the :agenda for the special session. -2- r ....~.:..:.. ,( ......""..\,.:,,)_......"~i..,;.:::~:.~.~'I..\;.~~_:\;.\t:~.~~\; '.1.:~~ . . #6 GENERAL DISCUSSION Keith Van Dine: (a) Replied to Steve Simonson's question about if gravel trucks still go down Pfeil Road since the: weight limit restrictions have been in force, by saying he hasn't seen any gravel trucks lately. (b) Said the homeowners in his area should be having a meeting before too long. This was ln response to Merwin Willman's question about whether he ,had any input from the people in his area about the road name change for Binz-Englemann. Joe Potempa: (a) Asked about the status of 505 Curtiss where there had been a fence' company in the back. steve Simonson said the problem had been corrected - they moved everything out. (b) Regarding the Citizen's Leadership Panel, related that he found their meeting very interesting. Said guests at the last meeting were Chief of Police Agee and Michele Tereletsky of the Schertz Humane Society. Mr. Potempa advised the Commission that the target date for submitting all the results to Planning and Zoning is July 25th. George Vick: (a) Referred to the minutes of the last meeting where steve Simonson said the situation with trucks parking in Windy Meadow Mobile Home Park had been resolved. Mr. Vick noted there had been trucks parked there last weekend. (b) 408 Lori Lynn - they have a garage sale so often and have things for sale like a dozen weed eaters, microwaves, 3 sets of tires, etc., that it really is a business instead of a garage sale. (c) Mentioned the used car lot on FM 1518. Steve Simonson said he had checked into it and everything is legal. Merwin Willman': (a) Reminded the Commission of the joint public hearing on June 6 on John Lund's request for an exception to the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Willman told the Commission to keep in mind that the property is zoned General Business and they may want to consider changing the zoning or perhaps making a recommendation for a Specific Use Permit. Chairman Brisgill indicated he' has a big problem with that request because a lot of fill has been put on the property. Mr. Brisgill also indicated and he doesn't feel Planning and :Zoning can supersede the .state as far as sewage regulations are concerned. -3- . . Mr. Willman saidtbforget the State, th~ only thing Planning and Zoning should consid~ris, the request for an exception to the Zoning OrdinanQe. Joe Potempa questioned seepage into the property saying he had heard there was replied the City had checked it and found cTeekf rom Mr . Lund's some. steve Simonson no seepage. George Vick noted that if a Specific Use Permit was a consideration, Mr. Lund 'would have to have other approvals, such as for: sewage, before it. could be granted. To this Chairman Brisgill s~id no, we're just looking at the use of the land, but we are trying to make Mr. Lund aware of certain other conditions. George Vick then remarked that if Mr. Lund was given permission to put in a mobile home and as a resul t puts in another septic tank, then there could be problems. To this, Councilman Greenwald pointed out that in order to put in a septic tank, Mr. Lund would have to comply with County, state and City regulations. steve Simonson reminded the Commission that should they make a motion to recommend an exception be granted Mr. Lund, they can always include, in the motion, specifications to be met. steve Simonson also advised the Commission that John Lund has sent a formal letter to the City requesting deannexation. (b) Gave copies to the Commission of some recommendations he had written up for non-conforming uses, exceptions and adult oriented businesses. Mr. Willman said the City doesn't have an ordinance covering adul t oriented businesses and this ,would be a start. Mr. Willman also requested these recommendations be placed on the agenda of the next regularly schedriled meeting. Chairman Brisgill agreed to that request. Mr. Willman told the Commissioners, as far as adul t oriented businesses, he has some background information for reading and would be glad to let any of them borrow it if they are interested. Councilman Greenwald: (a) At the workshop a couple of weeks ago, Dale Stein from the Highway Department. reported -that the right-of-way maps for Jack Hays Blvd. (FM' 3009) :shbuld be ready in 4-6 weeks, the widening of FM 78 shoul~ occur in anywhere from 2 1/2 to 4 years, and the improv~ments t6 IH-35. are schedul~d for Jurie~July of 1990. Mr. ,Greenwald admitted this allays some of the fears that all three highways would be und~r ,?onstruction at the 'same time. -4- L"~~.~. ...."0,.... \." h ::.....~ ..: ~~_:..l..:.:: . . Chairman Brisgill expressed concern over some of the subdivisions along Jack Hays Blvd.~ claiming they will be landlocked while the road is under construction bebause th~y have no other way out. Mr. Greenwald assured him the road. will never be completely closed - there may be a lot of inconvenience, but it will never be closed. Mr. Greenwald fel t the biggest problem may be the right-of-way acquisition along FM 78. Mr. Greenwald said if you look at the street light poles on the south side of FM 78, that is where the right-of-way is now. (b) They brought 'up, to Dale Stein, the citizens' desires for traffic signals along Jack Hays Blvd. and found out this is not handled under his department, inst.ead it is handled out of an office in San Antonio. Steve Simonson: (a) Commented that the City's request to add two-way school flashers on FM 78 and Main st.- FM 1518 was turned down by the State Highway Department. (b) Said the letters have been going out on junk cars and on trash/weeds. Remarked that the trash/weeds notification, when it's a rental, sometimes involves letters to three sources: (1) the renter, (2) the owner, and (3) in some cases the lienholder. ~ "'.!: (c) Reported he had met with the Schertz Business Club that afternoon .and gave them all a copy of the current Sign Ordinance. Mr. Simonson said he had informed them Planning and Zoning was looking for specific input on items they do or do not like. Also, Mr. Simonson had told them that by 1990 everyone, even those grandfathered, will have to come into conformance and most are in violation now. Mr. Simonson said as far as he's concerned the ball is now in their court and if we don't get any input, then we'll go with our own suggestions. Chairman Brisqill: (a) Asked if the City ever wrote any letters to Wuest's/Winn's ! requesting they paint arrows on their entrances off Schertz Parkway. Steve Simonson said he would check into it. Mr. Brisgill suggested that maybe the Business Club could help with this and Jim Shriver said he would talk to them about it. Mr. Shriverthou~ht~ however, that the property probably belongs to Pacific Southwest Savings and not to Wuest'S/Winn's. -5- .', . Chairman Brisgill requested that Jim Shriver let him know what the Business Club decides. Jim. Shriver wondered if he' could get some administrative help from the City as far as typing reports for the citizens Leadership Panel and Steve Simonson told him he could, just bring: in the reports he wants typed. (b) Questioned the status of the City maps, outlining points of interest in Schertz, for the Stone Creek RV Park. Jim Shriver acknowledged he is working on them at the present time. (c) Read that 1n addition to the amendment prohibiting people from riding ln the back of trucks, Hal Baldwin is also considering a similar amendment prohibiting animals from riding in the back of trucks. Councilman Greenwald pointed out the City is checking into the viability of such an amendment. Mr. Brisgill recommended the Council think about every angle of it carefully, because this is an agricul tural community and he can foresee a lot headaches with such an amendment. Mr. Brisgill also asked Councilman Greenwald to pass these concerns onto City Council. (d) Will be out of town for the public hearing on June 6. (e) Asked if there was any word from the Census Bureau regarding the City's request to get involved. Steve Simonson replied he is currently checking into the situation. (f) Informed the Commission he has been asked, as a resul t of their letter to the APA, to speak at the convention in Lubbock in October. The APA is devoting one of it's short course sessions to small town planning and it is Mr. Brisgill' s understanding that he, a small town planning coordinator and a consultant will speak, each for approximately fifteen minutes. ,'" ; t ~ ~ ,c <~}:.:. Chairman Brisgill commented he was asked to speak on small town problems, how they are handled, and how a small town is able to bring about changes. His idea is to take pictures, for slides, of PM 3009 (Jack Hays), Schertz Parkway, the AICUZ, and the flood zone and work his presentation around those items. Mr. Brisgill told the Commission he would appreciate any other input they may have and asked that they think about it and let him know at the next couple of meetings. r.:.'.;.....,.ii...:.~;...;:.!.,.:;.;....... : ..,:,': - -::;". 'E:: : ::> - George Vick suggested taking a copy of the old map and the new map to show just how much the City has grown. , . Chairman Brisgill asked if anyone else had anything to discuss. -6- . . . . Councilman Greenwald noted there are four really interesting articles in the "Zoning Bull~tin"dated May 15th. steve Simonson asked the Commission mernbersto be thinking about. the APA Conference scheduled for October 4-7, and letting him know who's going so the reservations can be sent in. #7 ADJOURNMENT Chairman Brisgill adjourned the meeting at 7:53 P.M. There is a public hearing scheduled for June 6, 1989. The next regularly scheduled meeting is June 13, 1989. ~ -7-