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04-23-1991 f.v T~ PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened. in a regular sess:on on Tuesday, April 23, 1991 at 7:00 P.M. in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway. Those present were as follows: PLAN~ING AND ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT BOB k~DREWS, CHAIRMAN JIM SHRIVER, VICE-CHAIRMAN KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY MERWI~WILLMAN HARRY BAUMAN GARY BRICKEN COUNCILPERSON KEN GREENWALD BOBBIE VONADA CITY STAFF STEVE S1-MONSON, ASST. CITY MANAGER NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECRETARY MEMBERS ABSENT GEORGE VICK II CALL TO ORDER Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: A. Joint Public Hearing and Special Session April 2, 1991 B. Regular Session April 9# 1991 A. Joint Public Hearing and Special Session April 2, 1991 Merwin Willman made a motion to approve the minutes. for the Joint. Public Hearing and Special Session April 2, 1991. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion ca,rried. B. Regular Session April 9, 1991 Merwin Willman made a motion to. approve the minutes for the Regular Session April 9, 1991. Keith Van Dine seconded the motic~ and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried. #3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS There was none. 14 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Approval - The Gardens Subdivision (PC #164-90) Chai:-:nan Andrews informetJ the Commission that C. P. Vaughar: had askec if he needed to be here and if not, he had a prior comm:-:ment. Mr. Andrews noted that all the appropriate addi":lons and CJrrections have been included on the plat: (1) Lots ~ and 11 s ~_~ w a 1 0 ' set ba c k ; ( 2) La t 11 has been en I a r 9 e d ; ( 3 the ... . - ... . parti~l non-access easement along Pecan Drive lS shown; and (4) the floodplain statement .is on the plat. Harry Bricken asked how Lot 11 was enlarged and Chairman Andrews expla::..ned that the entrance to "The Gardens" was moved over just a little bit. Gary Bricken inquired if this subdivision will now require any variances and was informed by Chairman Andrews that Mr. Vaughan had made some adjustments and no variances will be required at this time. Merwin Willman made a motion to approve the final plat for The Gardens Subdivision (PC #164-.;90). Gary Bricken seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried. After the vote, Chairman .Andrews .mentioned tha.t the front building line should be shown on the plat for Lots 1 and 11 and Steve Simonson pointed out to him that it is shown in the curves. Mr. Andrews then said the only other thing he asks is that the Julian date of when the final plat was approved be added to the plat. Gary Bricken asked if the problem with. the little plot of land that needed to be dedicated had been cle~red up and Steve Simonson replied it . had. Mr. Simonson reminded Gal."Y 'Brickenhe had provided a copy of .the ordinance'showing that transaction in the Commission'spa.ckages this' time. 15 CONSIDER AND MAKE. RECOMMENDATION: Comprehensive Plan Updating 'of the A. Memorandum of Agreement for Prep~ration of the .Comprehensive Plan B. Planning Budget C ~ 'Consideration of Changing the Date for Finishing Goals and Objectives on Assigned Subjects A. Memorandum of Agreement for Preparation of the Comprehensive Plan Chair~an Andrews called the Commission's attention to the Memorandum of Agreement worked up by Jim Shriver and included in their packages. Gary Bricken commented that under "Definitions" it says the Comprehensive Plan will p~oject 20 years and he thought it was 10 years. Merwin Willman remarked he also thought it was 10 years. Chair~an Andrews noted the Plan is for 20 years with 5 - 10 year goals. -2- On page 4 of the Memorandum of Agreement is a place for all the 'Commissioners to sign with copies listed as. going to the. City Council, the City Manager, the Asst. City Manager/Planning Coordinator, ,the Recording Secretary ~nd Department 'Supervisors. Merwin ~illman indicated he didn't think all this is necessary, it looks I ike a legal document. Mr. Willman further stated the P lan ~s for the Commission's work and operation and now with these signatures, every time they make changes they will have to provide a copy to all these people. Jim Shriver told Merwin Willman this is just to put them on notice that the Commission is working on the Plan. Gary Bricken added it's for purposes of making a commitment. Merwin Willman stressed he still doesn't think it's necessary. Harry Bauman asked if City Council, had ever replied to the Commission's request to them for backing in regard to work on the Comprehensive Plan. steve Simonson replied they had not. Councilperson Ken -Greenwald advised the Commission everyone on the City Council supports their efforts _ wholeheartedly and he doesn' t know' why they didn't' receive a written' reply to their request. ' Chairman Andrews' 'related that Jim' Shriver had asked him about including' t'he Department Heads and he had told hfm' to definitely go ahead and, in his opinion, he could even include a line for them to sign. Mr. Andrews cornmentedthe Commission is going to be relying on the Department Heads for a lot of help. Kei th Van. Dine asked what. if a Depar.tment Head, doesn't want' to sign and Chairman Andrews replied the~e's nothin~ we can do, but either way it does give us a point of contact. Chairman Andrews asked for a motion to accept the Memorandum of Agreement, if there were no further questions. Harry Bauman made a motion to accept the Memorandum of Agreement as written. Gary Bricken seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried. B. Planning Budget A copy of the Planning Budget for the 89-90 and 90-91 fiscal years had been provided to the Commission. Chairman Andrews noted th~t in FY 89-90 some consulting fees were budgeted but not used, so in FY 90-91 they were dropped. -3- I Merwin Willman Engineering and plats, etc. asked steve what kind Simonson of expenses replied zoning are involved in changes, maps, Merwin ~-i llman asked about Overtime and steve Simonson repl ~ed that's overtime for the Recording Secretary. Harry Bauman observed it looks like they need some additional consulting fee funds. Councilperson Ken Greenwald asked the Commission if they had any idea how much they may need for a consul tant. Several figures were talked about, but nothing definite was decided. Chairman Andrews reported that Merwin Willman had sent a letter to a consultant, but Mr. Willman sa~d the letter had been sent back without a forwarding address. Harry Bauman volunteered to check into the situation, saYl.ng he has some contacts who ~ay be able to help. Merwin Willman remarked it seems like they should be able to get. some help through the San Antonio Chapter of the APA. Chairman Andrews commented that to his way of thinking, the Commission, collectively, has enough knowledge to gather all the information needed, but he's -not sure they have enough experience to put it all together properly. Merwin Willman said, in his opinion, they need some guidance. Gary Bricken asked what it is the Commission wants a consultant to do. Chairman Andrews replied they want" some guidance. Mr. Andrews. remarked on a comparable situation he had in the Army where someon~ came in, listene~ to what they wanted, made an outline for them, and' they expounded on the outline. Gary Bricken commented he had spoken with Steve Simonson and another gentleman who had impressed him with his knowledge of the community. Mr. Bricken asked if that particular gentleman is a full-time employee, has a degree in planning and has any skills at writlng comprehensive plans. steve Simonson informed Gary Bricken the gentleman was Mark Marquez, the Economic Development Coordinator, he is only part time right now, his degree is in economics, and he is just in the process of learning as far as writing comprehensive plans. , Steve Simonson then described for the Commission what he envisions from a consul tant. Mr. Simonson said he sees the Commis3ion putting together what information they have gathered and then calling in a consultant, or planner, to see what they've missed and where they might better place their emphasis. -4- Harry Bauman said in other words, to refine it. Gary Bricken mentioned they're going to need resumes submitted. Steve Simonson related he thought Merwin Willman had brought up a good point previously about looking to the San Antonio Chapter of the AP.~ for help. Mr. Simonson further stated if they start going to some of San Antonio's meetings, maybe they can establish some contacts in the local area. Gary Bricken questioned what kind of time line they're talking about for the budget and Steve Simonson indicated he needs to submit his budget by the early part of June. There was discussion on the budget for office supplies and the' budget for postage. As far asof~ice supplies go, it. was pointed out that the number of copies made could be cut down and it was. suggested that when an item is on the agenda more than one time, the Commissioners should make an effort. to keep their copies of. the material from one time to the next. Councilperson Ken Greenwald recommended, that if they really can't find their copy of something., they call the. recording secretary and request a. copy. Chairman Andrews asked steve Simonson if there's enough. postage in the budget in . case they go forward with a survey. . Mr. Simonson answered it depends on when they do the survey. If it's projected for the next fiscal year, it could be bud~~ted. Harry Bauman asked if the survey couldn't be put in, or attached to, the monthly. Newsletter'in which caSe postage would not be a' concern. Gary Bricken mentioned the Newsletter more than once questions they should ask. possibility of putting it in to get an idea. of what kinds the of Speaking of postage, Gary Brickenbrought up the mailing of. the agenda to the members before a meeting and said he didn't need it mailed to him. Harry Bauman also requested it not be mailed to him. Of the remaining members, only Chairman Andrews and Keith Van Dine wished to receive the agenda by mail. Jim Shriver asked Steve Simonson. that supposing the Commisslon needed $5,000 two weeks from now, would they have trouble getting it and Mr. Simonson replied it would be up to the City Manager and if they needed it this fiscal year, they would probably have trouble getting it. Mr. Simonson continued on saying if the Commission wants it for next year, he needs to have a formal recommendation from them find he will make it part of his budget. -5- '. , Chairman Andrews remarked it looks like what they have the most control over is Subscriptions and Conference/1raveIJTraining. Mr. Andrews asked if they can .cut down on subsc r iptions . The current subscriptions are the "Zoning Bulletin", the "Zoning Report" and the "Zoning News.1I Merwin Willman said, in his opinion, they could cut the IIZoning Bulletin." It's nice reading, but also expensive. Gary Bricken indicated he does not spend a lot of time reading th~se reports and said if none of them were there, he doesn't feel he would miss them. Merwin Willman commented he has used. back copies of the "Zoning ReportD for research and finds it to be valuable for that l?urpose. Harry Bauman remarked that he's sure those' who have been on the Commission fora long time have a better idea of how important these reports" are. Both Councilperson Ken Greenwald and Chairman Andrews related. they use the "Zoning Bulletin" to review existing ordinances and see what it is people are challenging. steve Simonson told the Commissioners he is sure they can cover the. price of subscriptions if they want to leave everything as is. The consensus. of the Commission was" to keep all current subscriptions. Regarding Conference/Travel/Training., Harry Bauman mentioned where he's been involved in the past, they had only one or two people represent everyone el se at conferences and Mr. Bauman suggested this as a means o~cutting down on expenses. Jim Shriver disagreed with Harry Bauman. Councilperson Ken become the same concurrently. Greenwald advised. Harry Bauman the as TML in that they run several APA has courses Steve Simonson remarked on the APA's training sess~ons for Commissioners. Jim Shriver mentioned he has met people from other cities who have had to pay their own way to the APA conference. Chairman Andrews questioned if the Conference/Travel/Training budget needs to be increased. There was a brief discussion about the fact that if some of the members start attending the San Antonio Chapter APA luncheons, that ~~ll have to be included in the budget also. Steve Simonson suggested increasing this line item to $4,000 and the Commission agreed. -5- c. Consideration of Changing the pate for Finishing Goals and Objectives on Assigned Subjects Chairman Andrews, saying May 14th had been set as the original deadline for finishing goals and objectives, asked if anyone had come up with a realistic new date. Gary Bricken noted they will have trouble finishing goals and objectives without census data, but they could set a preliminary date - it is a place to start. Jim Shriver mentioned that at the Business Club meeting it was brought up that Doctor Harborth is in charge of redistricting for Guadalupe County and he has been using census data. How come. he has census information and we don't? steve Simonson said he would check it out. Keith Van Dine remarked that instead of goals and objectives, they need to establish some kind of outline, through research, so they have a direction i~ ~h~chto g~. Jim Shriver, referring back to when they were discussing the. survey, asked if the Commission would like for him to work up an initial survey and bring it to them for review. Councilperson Ken Greenwald commented the first thing they need to establish is what it. is they want to find out from this survey. The Commission thought an ..initial survey from Jim Shriver was a good idea and Chairman Andrew~ directed anyone who' has a specific question they want asked on i survey to call Mr. Shriver. Harry Bauman asked what volume of response they got. from the last survey and Jim Shriver said somewhere in .the area of 10-11%. Jim Shriver, referring to the T.able of Contents listed in the Memorandum of Agreement, said he sees it as a guide, but not a completed guide. Mr. Shriver also mentioned the Citizens' Leadership Panel report and suggested a copy of it be made for both Harry Bauman and Gary Bricken. '6 GENERAL DISCUSSION Keith Van Dine: (a) Mentioned large potholes in the roads in the Schirmerville area. Steve Simonson sai~ the City is aware of the problem. (b) Sa~d he understood the City got some money for installation of wat~r lines in his area. Steve Simonson acknowledged tha,-'s true and said it is for the area along Scenic Lake Drive, Boe~ig Drive ~nd part of Gray town Road. -7- . .. .", , .:~ " . .' (c) Mentioned a certain farmer in his area who could help solve part of a drainage problem ,if he would, plow his field . in . a diffe.rent direction. Steve Simonson indicated the City has spoken with the farmer and has not been abie to convince him to change the direction he plows. Mr. Van Dine said he would have a talk with the gentleman. (d) Observed that if hiring a consul tant is going to cost too much, it might be wise to look at a Plan B. Mr. Van Dine mentioned, for example, different courses that are offered and suggested maybe Steve Simonson attend some of these courses. Steve Simonson advised that some of these courses are offered at universities and one of the 'benefits you get sometimes is that if 'you take along so~ething you're working on~you can gets lots of extra help. Harry Bauman: (a) Asked steve Simonson if hehad'heard anything. from UTSA about. undergraduate help on the Comprehensive Plan and Mr. Simonson replied he had not heard from anyone. Keith Van Dine reported he had spoken with someone and was told the students are all placed for this session, but they may possibly have some openings in the s'ummer session starting June 3rd or definitely in the fa)l session. (b) Informed Steve Simonson his wife had called City Hall the other day regarding spraying for mosquitoes and was told by someone the' city had' sent . two people for training, but they flunked the test. and therefore are not .qualified to spray. Steve Simonson commented the City doesn't spray because it doesn't have the equipment .to spray.. Mr. Bauman then asked if the job could be contracted, but Steve Simonson said he doesn't know of any other city that does it. To this, Gary Bricken remarked it would do no good if only one city sprayed. Merwin ~"'illman: (a) Noticed the City had been doing some repair work in the 600- 700 block of Mitchell and asked what they found. Steve Simonson said he isn't positive what they found, but thought they had determined it is not a leak. (b) Reported he had writtfin a letter to the City of Castle Hills requesting their regulations on water conservation. After all the hoopla in the newspaper, it turns out they have only one paragraph in their ordinance pertaining to water conservation. -8- .. . Mr. Willman said he feels this year in the City and updating the regulations for water conservation other changes that should be made have also been accumulating. will see an upturn in housing Subdivision Ordinance with shoul.d be considered. A few to the Subdivision Ordinance Steve Simonson pointed out to Merwin Willman that what needs to be done with water conservation regulations is to make them part of the Southern Building Code. Jim Shriver: (a) Thanked steve Simonson for taking care of the concern of the senior citizen on Valley Forge. (b) Requested the review and consideration of the citizen. survey be placed on the next agenda. Councilpe,rson Ken Greenwald: (a) Related that the east runway at Randolph Air Force' Base will be closed for approximately one year and the base will be uS1ng. the west runway. Mr. Greenwald admitted this should keep problems with the Resurrection Baptist Church at a minimum. Chairman Andrews: (a) Thanked Steve Simonson for the copy of' the agreement between the City and the Resurrection Baptist Church. (b) Remarked on steve Simonson's comments' to the Commission and pointed out he had not said there were two cracked slabs in Savannah Square but had said, instead, there were two homes where the soil had shifted. (c) Notified the Commission the Council is ready to schedule a public hearing on the proposed Site Plan. ste~e Simonson said the public hearing for the Commission and the public hearing for City Council are usually published in the newspaper together. (d) Asked if there's money in the budget for striping center 1 ines down the streets and expressed particular concern about bicycle lanes. Councilperson Ken Greenwald told Mr. Andrews to keep in Inl.nd that, among other priorities, the Street Department also fixes potholes and mows. , Mr. Andrews observed, that as a concerned citizen, maybe J:he budget needs to be changed. -9- .' (e) Referred to a house on River Road that has had sewer problems for years. Steve Simonson said the City.is hindered from doing much of anything because of the way CCMA installed the lines. #7 ADJOURNMENT Before the close of the meeting, Councilperson Ken Greenwald urged everyone to get out and vote on May 4th. Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:35 P.M. The next regularly scheduled meeting is May 14, 1991. , -10-