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03-12-1991 ,yi. ., , ~.L~~ f!AJ:1f}; PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The Schertz..Planning and Zoning Comciis~idn conv~he4 in a ~~gular . sess'i(Yn'on, 'Tuesday,.. .March- -1'2,. "'1991 'p,.t 7.:'00" P ..l\'1.~ in...::tpe . -Municipal:' '. ,::"C.ompl~_x' ....Conference. Room','. i'40:0 ":?ch~rtz'" :.P'a:rk~ay'~: . Tho'se " 'p:r.eseht:'" .~. 'were' a's "follow's';, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN JIM SHRIVER, VICE-CHAIRMAN KEITH.VA~ DINE, SECRETARY. MERw'IN'WILLMAN . , GEORGE, vrCK' .., ' . . ,. " . , HARRY B~UMA~ . . .<;;AR~ .....~~~C~'EJ;'J: .: ~,' :" :" ~.. .' :......... ::~.......:...: . .. COUNCTLPERSON KEN ':GREENWALO" JOHN SHEEDY GEORGE MOWER .... . ~ . . , . , .. CITY STAFF STEVE. SIMONSON,' ASST. CITY MANAGER' NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDiNG SECRETARY'. ..~":"'. ..... '>.::: '.' 'ffl.'.:"'" . CALL' -ro-..ORDER . ':..':' '. .. . ", ~ . 0, . .. .. :..",.... IO~. . . , . ,Chaj,:~m<1~",Andl'e:W~'t~a'l'l ~d~,'~he{meectiitlJ":'~o', .'.9-'rile r~~ t. ,,7.:. o~.."p.' ~.: '. ....< '.,., '..' "." .. #2 'ApPROVAL oj; MINUTES-:'.' Reguiar--' S~s;;ion Fe.i)'ruary 26.,,' 19'91 _,e. '0" ..... Jim Shriver' pointed out that. on Page 3, last paragraph, second 1 ine, the word ".taken". is . there. twice and. should be, there just once. There being no further corrections, Merwin Willman made'a motion .. . .,t,<?.. a1?pr9V~. . ~he. minute.s, . a,s.am~ndedJ f,o~, t~e ~.eg.u~ar s,essio~" Febru~ry 26; 1991.' Jim Shriver' secdnded the motion and the vot~ was unanimous in favor. Motion carried. Before continuing to Item #3, Jim Shriver read the following statement to the Commission: "During the Planning and Zoning Commission February 26, 1991 meeting while discussing the update of the Comprehensive Plan I made ~n '~off the wall" statement to the effect that in my opinion 50% of the Commission members were not interested in updating the Comprehensive Plan. My statement was in error, was 'unfair, and I hereby retract it." .Y #3 CITIZENS INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS John Sheedy of 1017 Valley Forge was at the meeting and asked to speak at thi~ ticie. ~i~Sheedy' s~id it is hii'understanding th~. '~ity' .has an'Qr.d.inance'.whi~h 'prohibitsthe .bu:ilding' :'qf'fences in". . .; , the"f ron:t >i a'rcf 'out . 'to: the'" sIdewa'l k.~ > .M'r" ~. '. She~dy ':'furt:.oet.' :sta.ted .... hi's 'neighbor ,'buil t." a: . f'e'ricei'n' .the front yard out to .the side'w'alk' and.. he ',is prot'est.ing',because. the Hui lding . I.nspector... gave. his neighbor permission 'to do so if he put in.a gate for the water meter reader. Mr. Sheedy indicated he objects because, in his opinion, the Inspector 'has casually 'chosen to disregard the rules. . ,_ .....Z' Afte'r 'a . bri'ef' discussi9n and, some r:es'earch' of the 'ofdinan.<?e,', .' . ". stetfe' 'Simbri'sciri '~ta't~d 'that :to. an' arecii ioned""'R-'2" .tthe' area' where' ," , ...... . ~M:t:'.. Sheedy resides), ferv;~s not. higher . .th~n four. (4-') .fee,t. are .... ~1:1~~~~ :'f?..t;p~'~:~.~~.~(,.:y.~j-(r~;:~'?:. .t1:l~',..iS.i~.p'~i,~"Y, ~'~:'n.~'~.:.' '. '. .', . ." ". ..,.. ',. Chairman Andrews than~ed Mr. Sheedy for coming 1n and taking an interest 1n what's go~~g'on ~n the City. After Mr .,.':., Sheedy le~t ,.'."..., Jim Shriver. asked . how a person can determine where their~property line is. Steve Simonson told Mr.' Shriver to ,come i~ ~nd take a ~ook at the plats. ';- ~ .' ."" -: "';:....~.. .. . .#',4"':' "co'NsrDER"'MID': "MAKE'. .'RECOMMENriA'I:~'ION::' Requ~s't ,,'fro'iTl';" :Dbr'a '.A....: '. . Mower.t . ,501 Bro,oks Ave. , for .a H.~aring -'. .....:: 1~~ . '. ,r..,' ~.':" '~e9?trd~t'HJ :a ~ dtinke.<Jl ':Vehi:c l.e\.'.'( i.97-{)....l?odge. Truck '. .;.,.. ..;..~..,; ':". . :::.' .."'., '~"'. '~~;t'h ,'C~mper.). " :. '. : '" ": .' .' :' . ..-. .. ". .. ... . '.G~orge 'Mower: w~~. -aE~ the' meeting to '~epr'esent thi.g'.reques.t.... Mx.. Mowe.r began .by saying he has. 1 i ved In. Sche.rtz for only a couple of ye~rs and,he lo~es it~. . Mr. Mower then went on to say he had taken some pictures today at "the, tit;.yStre~t.~..?nd..PC;lrk~ .D.epar:trnent on...F't~1 1.:?;t~. ?~. bot4 ~.: tru~k. arid . a' car without curr'ent: 1 icense . stickers ~ Mr. Mower had the pictures with him and pointed out the City should come to the public with clean hands. Chairman Andrews related that the City will look into the situation and if they are in error, it will have to be corrected. Merwin Willman, referring to the letter from Dora A. Mower, said a copy of the Ordinance had been requested and wanted to know if it had been furnished. Mr. Mower said it had been. George Mower informed the Commission he had not received a. certified letter from the City giving him a 10 day notice of the date of the hearing he had requested. Mr. Mower did state, however, he was waiving that requirement. -2- George Mower read from the state law as follows: "Junked vehicle" . means a m,otor vehicle as de,fined in Section 1 f Cbapter' 42, General Laws, Acts of the 41st Legislature, 2nd Called Session, .1~29 (Article 6701d-l1.. Vernonts Texas,Civil Statutes): . ':'" ':'::,.;':,.LA.l~.,; tha f.' ~s: "'i nop.e"! at-I V'f::;';,' p.'nd- :.:.:., '.', ,', ,....,' '. >. I;. . (b) that doe's not 'have lawfully aff~xed to it ei ther an. unexpired license' 'plate or a' vali'd.... m'otor 'vehicl'e safety ins'pe'ction certificate, that is wrecked, dismantled, partially dismantled, or discarded, or that remains inoperable for a continuous period of more than 45 days." . ..Mr. M.ower. th~n:.. read .fro.m O~di~a~ce ,,'89-~-11 .<?f the, 'City .~of.. .' Sc.h:~rtz;, .' f,rom "'S~c ." ,..1.0.-.51,' O.~f.ini tio.ns., . as.. follows..:,:. . '~Jun~~d.. .,.,.,' 'vehlc'les:' ; AhY' 'motor' ~ehicie. a~ defin~d 'in Artl.ci~ 6701d-ll,' . . \[~r,riQot:s.:, Revi~e<;l,'. .C.ivil... .S,t.~t.u~es .::qf :, Texa;; /..>~~.. ~mended.r. ..~~ich ..,is,.., ".. tnop~raE.ive; " 'd.~e~ .,: :n9t , .tta.v.~"", f~~f-.ull.y.., aff txed. '. ~o': . it:.: bC)t~,. '.an ":'., une~pired licen'se' plate and a' valid" motor vehicle safety . inspection certificate. or that is wrecked, dismantled, partially dismantled or discarded; D~ ~emains inoperable for a'~ontinuous . '. per:~<?~ of mo.r;e than forty-f i ve (45) days." Mr. Mower. commented' tha.t someone in the City left out. the "and" ,after the word "inoperative" ther~fore ,misquoting the state law I ." ~:pd.,t.h~:.,Ci"t:y.::c,a,Q.t,t. ~.ljp~.t.s~d~ the .S..t'at.e. 1.9-:w. ...,:...",....'....,..:,. . :', ", ....... ~.... :": ~~tf;f~it~;~~t~Z?~hl~f~o~~e~~,t~~t~.~a~h~~J: h.~i;\~:;"C{~;~s.t:~"l~ t;~;:,:f!l2r;JT*'", .. '. . ....!.. .....> :.'\. .George . Mower. then 'ine~tiorred that. '.:'the 'vehicle .r~ns Ci t:-y . ..Inspect:orL~~n~'r.cf.Tri1.i'tt..~itness.ed 'the..f~ct..that.:.it can run.' 'Mr. Mower said he had requested the Inspector be at the meeting tonight to v~rify that fact~, and wond~r~d whyheis~'t 'in attendance. Steve Simonson remarked that the Inspector was told and is aware of the meeting tonight, but he does not know why he isn't here. Gary Bricken asked George Mower I that Slnce the vehicle runs, does he have a plan for it. Mr. Mower repl ied he does eventually, but he has been busy restoring a bus, traveling back and forth between here and Colorado where he owns property, and filing a robbery report as a resul t of being robbed the last time he was out of town. Mr. Mower said ~e is trying to be a good neighborr but he does not wish to spend the money for insurance on the vehicle 1n order to get a license sticker and an inspection sticker. Chairman Andrews pointed out it lS not necessary to have 1nsurance to get the license sticker and the inspection sticker. -3- George Mower advised that he has his lnsurance through a firm ln .colorado and it is required .by ,them t,hat you have. insllranee to, get the aforementioned stickers. . .~ ".. ... .. . . . Th.ere was sqme d'iscussion abQut. 'how long Hr. Nower had re~'i:ded ln ,:,th~:. C',t,.ty" ;'a'n.d',:, th:~",_f.a.c:i' ,tie ':s':tilI.',:consid'e,r~,:'. h~m~,el f :a. :~'re.sii;ie.nto,~ Co.l:or:-ado.: ...,.. . " .~. ~. Gar'y'. Bricken :":observed that Mr.' !'-tower ,. brings' up . the que'stiori" "Where are you a citizen of?" Mr. Bricken went on to say that if you live in the State of Texas for 60 days, you are a resident of Texas and are required to observe Texas laws. Mr. Bricken also . remarked that George Mower says he is. trying to be a good . ne.~g.hbor, but. he does~' t ,puy his a,rgu~ent ~, :"Merwfn:Wi'I:im~'n 'related' -th'~t if tl~'~" ~ehicle :'had a v~licf license ". .~.~,~c;~e~. .,..pn ,.~t=:., . '. tJ\~~ ' Gould "J?.o?.~,ibJ~:x .,....o':,e:r:l.ook.. t:.h~ i~!;3l?,,~ct,i<?n' ..~t':I:-,cl:cer,: ;..b~t.~ t.he.Q~.dl-r:l.anc~..;"say,~~ It ,ll!ust -have "?l- . e!1:.}.rren1:;'. ',llcens~. . g.ticker'~' . . . .' . . . '. :.. Geo~g~ ~~intained his'argument th~t the state law i~ misquoted. Chairm'a.n":. Andrews informed Mr. Mower .'he 'always has the right to appeal. . ....., ,,9.~~~' )~~ic'ken told: Mr.~ :.: Mower:' :it.. only cost' $.4.~: o~.: ,,~o .--,.t.? .,..9,~t '. ~ ' ',' l'icense sticker, bu't.' 1'1.c:" Mow~r""'sald he still objects to the :'. .:'"..rrlisgu~~.i~9 9-f .the.?"t:ate ~avl. . .....' . '. . , ~-ti.~, :.~--;.:" -'.Jii~Jf~~)~~"~"~<:'" "'~~~~~':~:'''~Hc.;.;'$;:''''\''''~~. :':."'::": ....-.~...,~...,..',:. ~.. < .,.. '..' 'to,_: ..'. :!~"-:"': '. ....,~ . .....,:.'.. " '.... ,~\;::':..".; " :;..;. :...." ~"';'~" :.... .... , . . '. M~rwiri . W;illmarl' :said' .i.~ lje:.: .i's, 'heari~'9' 'righ~', the:vehlcle is " operative but. has no', current ,I ice'nse sticker. or i.nspection 'E'ti'cke'r; ,ther:efore our".' ordinance 'requires '.that" the vehicle 'be fenced from public view. .. ' .. ~ : . Merwin Willman made a motion requiring 'the 1970 Dodge Truck with camper, located at 501 Brooks, Ave., either be removed, be ~urr~ntly licensed, or be enclosed .from public view as required .. by... t.he. :Ordinanc~'.' Mr:." Willma-na-ls9'"asked .t'hat., ,a.s, part.. of. the' mo~ion, the vehicle owner be informed of the right to appeal Planning and Zoni~g's decision to City Council if so desired. George Vick seconded the motion and the vote was unanlmous 1n favor. Motion carried. George Mower asked how he files an appeal and steve Simonson told him he would be getting a letter telling him how to go about it. -4- :\- . ~: #5 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Review and Approval of Cbanqes to the Zenin,g Ordinanc~e a~ .~roposed 8rticle XXIV Site Plan Procedures (new) b. ,... Proposed ArticJeXXII Par~ing R~.gulatior).s(9hange) ". c..." P.ropo.s'e.d '~.Ar.t,j...c.Ie:X.~V ,.Landsc~'ping.,{.,tie\\i)"~ ,>, ".. , . d . Proposed Cha'n~v~s.tolO .Other:. Artic 1 es. (new) ,. . ". . M~'rwirf ~~i Ilman Commissioners listed above. had prepared, containing all some his time ago, .'a' "fblder' for" the proposals for the Articles Referring t.o si te plan procedures,.. steve Simonson. informed' the :Cpmmission that. in tpe past.th~y' had reqeiyed ~ome ~ort of, a. stt~ . 8la.~.. .,fr9,m, ,.compa..~.ies like ,~~y.l,e~.s~ .and . Qi.an;\ond Sha:mroc~ ,..an,d.. h.e " 'doesn't. see ~~y problem with' 'incorpor~ting" the~e site 'plan ,pr9ced~.r~"s,.' int,o ,the, ord~~~n,ce,., "" , . .':'.. .....0.. . , . :. . . ". Merwin . {~illman commented' it gives the' c'i.ty some' control over . develovment - you can hold the developers to what's on the site . .p'lan. ' , .. Chai~~an.Andrews remarked that' if these procedures"had' been 1n effect 'when the Sycamore 'Creek Apart~ents were built, Westchester' Drive ~ould have beeri~extended out to Elbel Road. 't....1i ...... ",:...,;"\;-'li; . .'. <to ....... ."",- 0 . . '. . . 0 ". ~ . . .., . .. . o. '" .' . ...... ~ .._ Ji~ ~hriver'askedif any other 'cities arou~d'requir~ a s{te plan ,and was. informed .by Harry ~auman.that,'Conv~rs~ re~uiies .one. . .'.. : ~~~ '..~,~~"';f-l~}~}~,i ':. ,:: :~".::!..' ,... ". . ~ ': ....',.. ,.," "".~!,.: ';:~..,.. ,:' ,:' ;' #', '. '. ',... :. ~">,...'. .: ': :..' .., ,':,.' ";.'.,"""'~:':-.~;.: ,~: .,,:, ';', ',''''': :.;. ' '.' ':" ",", ,'.'_'''~: '... . . Mr. Shti ver theri.. asked if" '~'~.~..,: 'Oi-s.... .iequi:/ed-"- in....sa:ri' Antoni6'ahd S~~ve~imC?~sC?n r.ep~.ied. yes it is. : '.,. ".,. Chairman Andrews pointed out Pecan Grove Mobile Home Park as another good example in the City \.Jhere a site' plan ,,\-ould have been very. useful. Merwin Willm~~ told the Commission he had included drawings with .his. '-recommendations .and 'asked them, to .-think . about whether :or "not they want them to remain or want them taken out. Councilperson Ken Greenwald asked t-1r. Willman if he wants the drawings to be included as part of the Ordinance or if he wants them as an addendum. Mr. Willman replied he would prefer they be included in the Ordinance. The Commission reviewed and discussed site plan procedures, parking regulations and landscaping. They made some changes, suggestions and recommendations as they went along. Merwin Willman commented he would like to deviate from the usual procedure and send these proposals to City Council first before any recommendation 'is made for a joint public hearing. -5- steve Sir:1onson thought it prudent to get input back from City Council before scheduling a publi'c- hearing, but reminded Mr. Willman t.he Commission and the Council are supposed to have separate public hearings. . . .. ....... . .. '., 'Me~'win:: Wi'lTma:'l1":matle 'a:~o,t'io~-:"to' t~c'o'~mend';'the:' p:ro'p6-s?l's ' 'on. 's'i te ." plan" . pi:'Oc'edures," ':, parking '-r.egulations,.' landscaping ,.( and the ..' proposed. :chahges'~ 'to 1.0 .'.Qther. A-r-ti,cles," incorporat.ing these.. proposais) be forwarded to City Council for their consideration and appropriate comments. The motion also included a request. for City Council to notify the Commission of'their decision and input before any other action is taken .such as schedul ing a publ ic h~ari.ng. . ,', . . , 'G~0~rge' VieR:.' sec6i1ded' ':the roott6n. arid.. the favor. Motion carried~ v"Qt~..", was' unanimous in .., . . .: .... ~ ....: ".i6' 'oil' . ..... '" ~... ... . .' .". . . ... ..... . '" .... :.CONSIDER"AND' .'itAKE' APPROPRIATE.".ACT~ON:, "Trairiing Program:. for" Commissioners Jim.:S4river had reworked his pr6gram to include the sugg~stions giv~'n: .to . him by: the Commiss:io(1.: at the meeting of February 26, .1991'~ Mr. Shrlver' said the one' thing he l~ft .out was a paragraph 'telling new memb~is where and when t6 pic~ u~ their packages for " .the' ..meetings'.. "Mr. Shr.ive'r'. indicated he would write' up ,that "'par'a<iraph a-nd"inclu(le:"it,.~.','.., :",..... ':::..':'..' ., "..,' .:'"...: ' '. ...'.' ,'. . ,', ". ~,.,,:~:~er,w..in ~.~i~.-lmall:.nta.cle...~..~ot-ion.to..:..a.ppEo:ve...1:.h@ : -iRfo,rrOOt.-i.O:.t:t, ,f~r,,'new.ly. ..'. .': ' '. .:.... ~ppoi~te'd ...Co~missfo-ri,~rs ,....wi th.,.the. 'i~cl..us".io.ri' 'of '~'the' . inforrna'.t'lo'n O'D. " wher~' and 'w~en to pick up package?> 'for "'meetings. Ha.'rry: Bauman "s-econ~ed ,the- 'mbt'i.dn:' and, the' vote ,'was 'unanim.qus. 'in "favo.r. ,Motion' carried. .... . .'-.. #7. CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Updating of Comprehens'ive Plan ~h~i~~~n A~dre~s related that.h~! ~im"S~~iv~r" Merwin Willman and, Steve' Simonson had met on Tuesday morning March '5th to di'scuss exactly what needs. to be done to set up a good starting point for the updating the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Andrews said one of the things they came up with was a list of subjects such as land use, business districts, housing, etc., of which one or several would be assigned to each member for research. Those things to be researched under each subject are the goals, the current status, the projections for the future, and the implementation of said goals. Chairman Andrews told the Commission he is open for suggestions on a time frame for completing the research. Several of Mr. Andrews' suggestions for doing research are use of the "Smalltown Planning Handbook" and meetings with various Department Heads of the City. -6- .', .. .., 0". George Viek commented he thought they had already had the llIc,,:.,til1:]s \\'i t.h ,t.he o.eE)artment Heads. Chairm~:ln Andrews said .that was in 1988 and things rieed to be updated. Mr. Andrews reminde~ "the' Comrn-is s ionth'ey are .lo.oking 0,10, years ~ahe-ad' :and as.,a' result,~ of .'" - '. th j,s r~e'~ea~'ch, the, ~,a~.. .~~~y ~.C?~~, ~:' "~'~~' ~~~~.~g, Hal?;, ~a~! 'c.h?.~~:~~. " : .."'.' ',", :..' Ch'airn'~:)n .;n{~rew's'. 'n'ot-'ed. 'that' wat'e'r,' sew~r, . sias; 'e'lecfri'c~ "etc.' " need. to be taken in't:,o cOl)$~d~rat:j):)-tf "'a:~a:: .t.l;le to~mj.ssioners wt~T">," need' to b.e. fam'iliar' with the' C.ap-it.a'.l.:' Improv~men't Plan.'<."-:Mr~' ,~". Andrews advised. the. Commi~sion lots ,of' help' at the City,' in the' form of studies and reports,. is available.' . ".. .... . After discussion, the c'onsensus of the Commission on' the time ...... ,}.~am~., n~e.9.~,d...,1=:p... ~.9,~~i~.'S7.. ~:t,~,~~;~,~r~~e,a,r~Jt wa.~,.,." ~~t.i}.", ..:t~,~,.:. ,~eE;t:'i-,n~", . ,,', ..~,.".;.. ': '., of. May 14,1991.' .',.."".,.'.,. " " Cha irman.:,:.Andi~ws.' sald, ,bis.. goal ,.is :.,t.o.,haye . the,' CO~p'reh~ns.ive,; P,la.fl-...,... ,., ',.... ..' updating completed by the end' of 1991, but to do this 'they will have to have extra meetings. ' steve Simonson asked if at 'the meeting of May 14, 1991' they wan't just the Comprehensive Plan on the agenda or do they want other act~on items on the agend~ also. ~heCommission decided to have just the Compr.ehensiye .Plal). on, ,that agenda. unless .there '~'" a " pres~'ing',Teques't"fi",0m:..so.me9.n~... :.~, , ''"'8 GENERAL DISCUSS'ION ~;:'..":"t '.' ".\';:,~:i't"ir:"~;~<:;i:~~';. -;;~7'S':i~:~:'''!:';t~~'~~7:i:\~t.:i~:'~4:'''.' . ," .. . . . ~ . .:-" ~ ~. ':-" '.,~.~:..~, ~.." , ;.; '. ~. ~.~~~);.':'''~~r~~Y,::l~*i~.:..~,..'-.i-/-~. -:r-:~~ :. " -..... . :~.. ....: ," ..~: ..:..~.:'..^....~~".. z......~: ....:. hO.". .:....'. ". ,.' ',t .,.. ;. ~ . " (a.. ),Re.lat~~l,the.re :'..5, .c;i ':' pud.dl:e . 'on" P!.e'il ,:road ill 1.. . .the. :.:tiIUe, ~.down ,;,by, ." :...,. .." . Sh~dy ';A'~"res, :'and." it ,~'eemst'Q" be, ,J,",unning.." ste'V:e.'~ simonson, s~id he..,.':' . .,' \~Jo.~l d, .:ha'-v~...sp~eqn~'. :'che~ck ....on. ';1. b ~...,,:.'. .,.'" .';, '... ..~ ': '.. '.' .:, . " .... fb) Advised' th.ere are a. lot of potholes in 'the ,roads .10 the Schirmerville area. (c) Mentioned that the reflectors at the ,culvert near his pl~ce have fallen dow.n into the ditch and there could be a serl'OUS ace ident there ~:. Gary Bricken: (a) Observed that on the City's letter to George Mower they list three salvage yards which the vehicle owner may wish to contact for assistance. ,Are there others?' If . so, why are they' not listed? Mr. Bricken said he had received, a complaint from'one that is not liste~. Steve Simonson noted that the three listed are the only ones the City knows for sure can do the job (such as all the required paperwork), but said he would check into the situation. -7- . c Before moving on to the next person, Keith Van Dine said he had . o'n~ef" '-o.t.he"r' ~t'h'iJig": to"<1n~rrti'On' .~. - .~.it'perl1a'ps."..,Mr~. ~.' Mow.er'~'s" ~.ca~s~'e in'di\eat~s~ ....~. . ..~.. . to t~~ Gt.ty, :tha~. ..~ t is t:lo~. ~l.~ays pr~dent. t? ~ype in references, .., t.o Ve'rt:\on' s statut~s in Ci.ty Q.:r.di:nanae~;,.,:,,: .. '. ; :'" . ,..'.,.~u.. .: '." .' .J' y. ...J; :.. . . ".. ~ if .:. .C't '. r~i~~wi';" Wiflman: . ~.' ... - . . ," . -. :', .' .... '. . ...,' ~. . ':.. .' ',' '. '.- . ....:... ...... _ ~ ." "" '.' :'''t t~' ." ," . ," ::l" f..'~ ....: .: ',...,.. '. .. t..:' ~ ..~..:~:..;;..... :__ . .. ~~..... ~...:. :. .~-;:. ,'" .': ':~ :'~ ..... .~ ... ~~. ...,... . J. -,"'.. "~.:' :'"': ~;'f:~ ::J .. ......::a. ". ~. ,;::'._: ,.- := ':' .... .~.. ;".. ": "._ . ~.~: \ ." " -;-.: -".: :. it- ..~.: ....:~. .. ';" ,. : _' ~ Jo;.' ~::'.;" :~: :.:..: ~ ".- . ",' . :' .... ," '; '.... "'~ :.. i ;: ~ '':,. ~':' .'.~., ,~':,:.::.; .;#,.,',.:...,~.:~. '.a;)r'...~o~d~red,'.,why:~..th.e~ Stand:arq;''''lett.er~''h~tl'' nO~~'..'~~1)"'S'ent:,:.tQ~.;;9~df'ge':'~'" '''~:.''',#''...$ "... Mower.' ..notifying him. of. his he~ring. ", ..' ..~- ., .'..~, .;.tn'1~' Note'8..;that:'J;.~'~'~'P6:rtab1'-e sign\"'a-e:-1{Ol1rtt:fY"'Kitchen has now'. been' up for over 90 days. .' '\~~~ 0;, ".,,......' ,'~...,',"', "'. (c) . Said, ,there,f' S', 'a:"'busine'ss'''on: 'Mairt"Street. "whiqh" 'nOW' "ha.s' five' ("5')" :.. -'~.' '" ,..'.. .,'. ..' signs. facing ,~M 78 ~', ..' 'steve' 'S,imonson : ,remarked " the Inspe,cto,r.s.: a.re .. :,,:t,~~.ing:, G:are.. o~ ,.t.h~t:.p.~.9blerq.., ..' .,.. .'. , . . Jim Shriver: (a') Explained the're are,' soine . things' in conflict 'betw'een ' Ordinance. 87-8-9, Ordinance Creating City Planning and Zoning Commission, and the Planning and Zoning Rules of Procedure. Asked that discussion of ' this be placed on th~ agenda 'of the next regularly schedu.le.d. me~tin.g. . .. '. ,......" (b) Indicated he woul~ like to m~ke. up an information sheet for ':' -',' .:~.,. ..,..~;: .;~:*tk~~~:'oi;!~~l~~~.":~~:':~'?'~~~~:~~~~':;Io"~g~:,~?,~~X~~~.~1t'~~~~"~1'(.~"f:',t,~.: . . . . . , , . (c) Asked, the City's poli~y ,about, additional living quarters .' ..'. '. '::"~Henlnd .": a>:.'llouse '.:''',: :.'T'h~re'.'~:."shch:'~~i'~:"c~'se:':"'at"....':tO'2:"Hrooki;. 'A.y.e. ," ,.., St'ev~ "~..' :.' . " . ..... '$.'imortso:n.' 'a'ckn~~t~dged it,. 'i:~" . hot ,'perinit~e~';:"" but".:sa.id', . he"~9uld:: .'..:.' ," 'check 'inf.o'lt-:~'" .' ,... ... . " '. ,...,.,.... " "., . .,' ...'. .,.. " (d)," 'Referred to the latest 'minutes of the Economic. Development Task Force, last page, #4 under Mid-term objectives for economic development where it reads: ." Full integration 'of Planning and Economic Development department into Community Planning and Development functions." Does this mean the .operating procedures of the Planning and Zoning Commission will change? steve Simonson replied there will be no change. CouncilpersoQ Ken Greenwald: Reported, he . had asked Tom Weaver of CCMA for an update, on business-type growth that will feed into CCMA (thei.r; plant license will not accept what is known as industrial sewage). Mr. 'Gre'enwald said CCMA could h'ave to build a pre-treatment 'plan and informed the Commission Tom Weaver will be at" the next City Council workshop. Mr. Greenwald also mentioned the level of discharge at the New Braunfels plant could be a lot higher. -8- ;II .~ Jim Shriver asked Mr. Greenwald if he is going to have Tom Weaver brief,t~e Commission and Ch~irman,Andrews said. it, sounds like a 'good idea." . , Herwin ~~i i iman' retei~e:d' t.h ~he 'EDTF ,n;'lr~ut~'~l.ti'rid.e'r. tae :iI1for~at'ion,".,."...."'" o,U, ,:' ~>~~ )1\1 S. ~ 11 e ~ ~: t7's.:.': W,~~ ~{~d-,: ":'~~ '99 rt- ~ de n'tJ ~ J:~".. aJid" ',:,'t! a, ~9~:9' ~h.e :}~P~W}.'~,~ i on, "~ .' ,~'. ' nH~mbers to US~ cautio'n,. Whe!l .dt:SCi1~,$i.I1'g:th~se .Il)att~i~s.', ., .', :....,. :. .. .......~. ',' Gary Hrickeri.', commen.t:ing'" on' 'mtitter's "'marked' "Confide'il.tia1 ft. stressed he is very superstitious of things like that. Mr. Bricken \-\ent on to say San Antonio has used him and others by making lots of promises and using lots of hype when in actuality the .leakilge came' .from San. Antonio",for .purposes; of raising the ante. . ~, '. ,.,' .. '..,.,. 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