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06-11-1985 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The City of Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session on Tuesday, June 11, 1985 in the Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Live Oak Road. Members present were as follows: PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF TOM YARLING, CHAIRMAN EARL HARTZOG, PLANNING COORDINATOR BOB ANDREWS, VICE-CHAIRMAN NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECRETARY DARWIN PEEK, SECRETARY MERWIN WILLMAN JAMES HARDEN TY BRISGILL DAVID ALLEN KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN OTHERS PRESENT JOHN STEELE, HARDY CO., INC. ALAN LINDSKOG, DANNENBAUM ENGINEERING ED DESCAMPS, PAPE-DAWSON ENGINEERS DON RYDEN, LARRY THOMAS CO. GORDON ENGLAND, GARCIA & WRIGHT ENGINEERS #1 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Yarling called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. He welcomed Norma Althouse as recording secretary. #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session May 28, 1985 Bob Andrews made a motion to approve the minutes. Merwin Willman seconded the _ motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #3 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat Savannah Square Unit II Earl Hartzog advised the Commission that this is the revised plat for Savannah Square Unit II - the final plat will be on two or three sheets and will have the appropriate administrative statements. The Staff still recommends the retention pond be eliminated from the drainage structure if at all possible. The City Engineer has completed his review of the drawing submitted and has identified two items on construction specifications that must be clarified. The minimum turn radii previously identified have been changed except for one. The Staff and City Manager have reviewed the turn radii and recommended approval since the federal requirements and the requirements for the City of Schertz have been met. There was a brief discussion about the direction of water flow in Savannah Square. Darwin Peek made a motion to approve the preliminary plat for Savannah Square Unit II contingent upon the clarification of the two items on construction speci- fications identified by the City Engineer, and recommended approval by City Council. Bob Andrews seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #4 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Scenic Hills, Phase II, Unit I Earl Hartzog advised the Commission this is the revised plat for Scenic Hills, Phase II, Unit I. Construction plans for this project have been approved by the City Engineer. There needs to be a confirmation on the availability of waste water facilities for this project. Construction plans for expansion of the water storage facilities have been approved by the City and they need to be constructed either before or in conjunction with the project. Construction has started. There was a brief discussion about the need for identification of street widths on the plat. Bob Andrews made a motion to accept the final plat for Scenic Hills, Phase II, Unit I as submitted with the addition of the identification of street widths on the plat. James Harden seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat Corridor 35 Earl Hartzog advised the Commission that no one was in attendance representing this project. This is the preliminary plat for proposed improvements for Corridor 35. This project will consist of one street and water, drainage and sewer lines. It is basically a road network. The balance of land will need to be platted as the area is developed. Drainage plans have been submitted, and based on engineering calculations, the original proposal for detention ponds was removed because of the impact they would have on property owners downstream. Drainage plans have been approved by the City Engineer which will not have an impact on the approval of the prelimi- nary plat. The plat should have the following: - bold lines around the area being platted, including proposed easements - design engineer needs to provide design speed of curve radii, plans for super elevation, and confirm the ability to permit movement of large trucks The Staff has the construction plans and the review process is just about complete. There was a lengthy discussion on drainage. Earl Hartzog gave a brief description of how water presently crosses FM 3009. He informed the Commission that the City Manager has asked for a bid on a drainage master plan. Bob Andrews asked if we are going to be creating a greater problem for Crest Oak and Circle Oak. Merwin Willman expressed concern about piecemeal construction causing more drainage problems. It was felt that holding up the road network would not solve the drainage problem anyway. Drainage is not in this proposal - just the road network. Chairman Yarling informed the Commission that the City Engineer has tentatively approved the preliminary plat. Bob Andrews made a motion to accept the preliminary plat for Corridor 35 contin- gent upon engineering agreement of drainage calculations. Darwin Peek seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #6 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Windy Meadows Chairman Yarling informed the Commission that the corrections the Planning and Zoning Commission asked for have been made. There was some discussion on the curve radii and also about the fact that a variance had been granted on the safety lanes from 30' to 28'. David Allen asked about the average size of a mobile home. Earl Hartzog said that in most cases people buying a mobile home determine the location of the Mobile Home Park before buying, therefore the average size varies according to Mobile Home Park restrictions. Ken Greenwald suggested that the restrictions for mobile homes in a park and in a residential area be as similar as possible for better enforcement. After this brief discussion, James Harden made a motion to approve the final plat for Windy P9eadows. Merwin Willman seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #7 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plan Northcliffe Development John Steele, representing the Hardy Company, presented a proposed plan for a Mobile Home Park/Subdivision Development in Northcliffe. He explained to the Commission that he was trying to gain some information on requirements that must be met and other unforeseen problems that may arise before proceeding any further with the proposed plan. One problem was the access - Mr. Steele said he is in the process of trying to acquire additional access (either FM 1103 or Green Valley Road). During the course of discussion, other possible problems which arose were the minimum requirements for lot sizes, sidewalks, setbacks, and the wooden shingle restrictions. Earl Hartzog advised the Commission that this was basically a preliminary plan (not plat) and since the location was outside the City limits, there were no zoning restrictions or requirements - just plat approval. Chairman Yarling commented he would like to have the reaction of the Schertz/ Cibolo Joint Commission. Bob Andrews recommended Mr. Steele attend the June 17, 1985 joint meeting of the Schertz/Cibolo Joint Commission. Bob Andrews made a motion to table this item, preliminary plan Northcliffe Development, until the next regularly scheduled meeting so that more information would be available. Ty Brisgill seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #8 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Schertz Modular Home Park Earl Hartzog advised the Commission no one was present to represent this project. He said the City Engineer had not completed the review of the construction plans. Mr. Hartzog also said that Neil Fisher had asked for this item (final plat Schertz Modular Home Park) to be postponed and put on the agenda for the next regularly scheduled meeting. Mr. Fisher also asked for approval to start construction on the water line. The Commission decided if the Staff approved, then the Commission would approve. Darwin Peek made a motion to table this item, final plat Schertz Modular Home Park, until the next regularly scheduled meeting and recommend approval to Staff for water line construction to start once it is signed off by John Bierschwale. James Harden seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #9 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Revised Sign Ordinance Merwin Willman stated he had made the recommended changes and paragraphs on portable or mobile signs and was still working on other parts of the ordinance. Ty Brisgill made a motion to table this item, revised Sign Ordinance, until the next regularly scheduled meeting. Darwin Peek seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. #10 GENERAL DISCUSSION Chairman Yarling commented he would like to have more efficiency as far as prospective developers having and following the check list of information needed before presenting their plans to the Commission. Earl Hartzog commented on the time spent in consolidating all paperwork and information in preparation for a Commission meeting. He also commented briefly on the difference in procedures as far as property within the City limits and property in the E.T.J. Merwin Willman suggested getting plats in the packages instead of the same night as the meeting. Bob Andrews asked about the status of the Mobile Home Ordinance. Ken Greenwald said more information was needed and had been requested. Bob Andrews also asked about the amendment of the radii letter. Earl Hartzog said an amended letter had been sent to the City Manager. Darwin Peek asked how the flood was handled. Ken Greenwald said it was his consensus that it was handled very well. Bob Andrews said he felt he could have been better informed about the status of the flood because of his type of business. Earl Hartzog suggested Mr. Andrews talk with the Fire Chief, Ed Melton, regarding emergency evacuation. Chairman Yarling welcomed David Allen as a new member of the Commission. Merwin Willman said everyone should be receiving a copy of the Special Overlay District and that-the variances were few and far between. Ty Brisgill asked what happened to the proposal for a Lone Star at Woodland Oaks. Earl Hartzog said he is waiting for a list of the property owners in order to set up a public hearing. Mr. Brisgill also asked if Naylor was getting started. Earl Hartzog commented that Keebler and American Guesthouse have both obtained building permits. Ken Greenwald said a groundbreaking ceremony is scheduled in the near future. Ken Greenwald updated the Feedback List. He also commented the City has a new contract now enabling them to sell vehicle registration stickers in Schertz everyday rather than just one day a week. He said it was being presented at the Council Workshop on Wednesday, June 12, 1985. Earl Hartzog reminded everyone of the tour scheduled for Saturday, June 15, 1985. He also said the final inspection for Tri- County Unit II had been accomplished - the two items were corrected. The next meeting is scheduled for June 25, 1985. Chairman Yarling adjourned the meeting at 9:52 P.M.