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PLANNING AND ZONING MINDTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council
conducted a joint public hearing on Tuesday,. August 16, 1988 at
7:00 P.M. in the Municipal Complex Council Chambers, 1400 Schertz
Parkway. Those present were as follows:
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN MAYOR EARL SAWYER
TY BRISGILL, VICE-CHAIRMAN COUNCILMANT EARL HARTZOG
KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY COUNCILMAN HAL BALDWIN
MERWIN WILLMAN COUNCILMAN RAY STANHOPE
MARY MARSH COUNCILMAN ADOLPH AGUILAR
JOE POTEMPA COUNCILMAN KEN GREENWALD
MEMBERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT
GEORGE VICK MARK VAL'GHAN
JO MICHELLE GARCIA
CITY STAL'I' MICHELLE SINGLETARY
STEVE SIMONSON, CITY MANAGER
JUNE KRAUSE, CITY SECRETARY
MICHAEL SPAIN, CITY ATTORNEY
NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING, SECY.
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#1 CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Sawyer called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
Mayor Sawyer presented certificates from the state of Texas to
Jo Michelle Garcia and Michelle Singletary, both lifeguards at
the Schertz swimming pool, for being two cf the best in the
Superguard's Contest.
#2 PUBLIC BEARING: Specific Use Permit X88-1
To receive input from the public on a request by MediPure, Inc.
for a Specific L'se Permit at 17051 IH-35 North. The Specific Use
Permit would be for a facility that processes the incineration of
infectious and biomedical waste.
Mayor Sawyer turned the meeting over to Planning and Zoning
Chairman Bcb Andrews. Mr. Andrews informed all present that
MediPure, Inc, had withdrawn it's request for a Specific Use
Permit sc there was no need for a public hearing.
#3 GENERAL DISCOSSION
There was none.
#4 ADJOURNMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING
Planning and Zoning Chairman Bob Andrews turned the meeting back
over to Mayor Sawyer who adjourned the public hearing at 7:03
P.M.
The Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a special session,
after the adjournment of the public hearing, in the Municipal
Complex Conference Room.
#5 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:04 P.M.
#6 CITIZENS' INPOT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
There was none.
#7 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Specific Use Permit #88-1
Due to the withdraw of the request by MediPure, Inc. for a
Specific Use Permit, this item was also withdrawn.
#8 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Vaughan Homes -
Request for 10` Setback Variance (from 20' to
10') at 1504 Oak Tree Circle, Lot 19, Block
1; Greenshire Oaks Subdivision
Chairman Andrews said the Commission could go ahead and discuss
the request if they liked, even though Mark Vaughan had not
arr~_ved yet, and he would try to answer their questions even
though he could not represent Mark Vaughan.
Ty Brisgill commented he had walked through Greenshire Oaks and
noticed a lot of trees in the 16` easement behind Lct 19, but
upon checking further realized that just the telephone and cable
are in the 16` easement, the electric easement is in the front.
Mr. Brisgill said another thing he had noticed is there are
several big trees, and the one in the middle of where the
driveway would be, will have to be cut down. Chairman Andrews
told Ty Brisgill it is his understanding the driveway will fit
between the two big trees.
Ty Brisgill went on to say then that he has no problem with the
variance request, but he had noticed that over the weekend
Vaughan Homes had six bandit signs at their entrance. Mr.
Brisgill pointed out that here they are requesting a variance
when they don_`t even conform to the conditions of a previously
granted request.
Merwin Willman remarked that he has a different kind of problem.
Mr. Willman said, in his opinion, the Commission is violating
state law and the City' s own Zoning Ordinance in granting these
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variances because any changes must go to a public hearing. Mr.
Willman pointed out it is being called a variance, but it is a
change to the Zoning Ordinance.
Ty Brisgill asked Merwin Willman to explain why it is not a
.variance and ncted that a variance gives the property owner
relief from certain. provisions of an ordinance. Mr. Willman
.referred to Chapter XXI of the Texas Municipal Law Handbook
saying a variance is not to be used with the Zoning Ordinance,
but it can be used with the Subdivision Ordinance.
There was some discussicn on this with Mary Marsh saying Mark
Vaughan`s request has ncthing to do with zoning - Greenshire Oaks
is a subdivision. Mrs. Marsh went on to say she cannot believe
the iaw is set up so that public hearings have to be held for
requests such as setback variances.
Joe Potempa asked if the Commissicn realized how many public
hearings would have tc be held if they are required for every
setback variance.
Chairman Andrews said, in his opinion, Article 10.118 of the
Vernon`s Statutes gives the Board cf Adjustment authority to
grant exceptions and City Code 87-5-9 gives authority to the
Planning and Zoning Commission to act as the Board of Adjustment.
Merwi:~ Willman commented that, as he sees it, there are two
actions: (1) the ones the Planning and Zoning Commissicn take
such as creating new zoning districts, creating overlay
districts, etc. and (2) the ones the Board of Adjustment take
. such as when an individual asks for a deviation-from the Zoning
Ordinance.
Mary Marsh remarked that she sees the Board of Adjustment as an
appeal process and Mark_ Vaughan is rot appealing, he is asking
for a variance. Mrs. Marsh further stated the Commission needs
to get a lawyers`s interpretation cf the law on this matter.
Keith Van Dine said he can understand it being an appeal because
Mark Vaughan is requesting an exception to an existing ordinance.
Mary Marsh said the question needs to be settled one way or the
other..
Mark Vaughan arrived at the meeting at 7:33 P.M.
Chairman Andrews explained the situation to Mr. Vaughan.
Merwin. Willman had gone- tc the Council Chambers to try and
ccntact the City Attorney, but he had gone into executive session
with the City Council.
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Chairman Andrews diverted. temporarily to Item ##9, General
Discussion, and asked. Merwin Willman if he would write up a draft
for the annual report to City Council -since he had done such an
outstanding job on this last year.. Mr. Willman agreed to this
request.
The discussion then reverted back to Mr-. Vaughan's request. Alsc
brought out was the fact that at the previous meeting. Mark
Vaughan had asked the Commission to consider allowing a second
curb cut which would permit circular driveways in Greenshire
Oaks.
Merwin Willman commented that in the Code of Ordinances it says
the curb cuts are controlled by City Council, and on Page 975 of
the City Code it gives the City Manager the authority to make the"~`
final decision on curb cuts.
Merwin Willman said the Commission can continue on a case by case
basis fcr curb cuts or they can establish a policy restricting
second curb cuts to an R-1 district or lots with a certain amount
of f rontage.
Mary Marsh stated she thought they should continue on a case by
case basis. Mrs. Marsh said the configuration of some lots makes
a circular drive -very attractive whereas the configuration of
other lots does not.
Merwin Willman infcrmed the Commission that at the May 24, 1988
meeting the Commission had voted to consider seccnd curb cuts cn
a case by case basis.
At this time there was a five minute break.
After the break, Chairman Andrews asked the Commissior. if anyone
had objections to his staying arcund and getting a ruling frcm
the City Attorney tonight on the question about variances, and
then calling a special session if necessary. The Commissicn had
no objections. Mr. Andrews said in legality it seemed to be
about the best thing they could dc.
Mark Vaughan had commented the gentleman, whose house is on Lot
19 where the variance is being requested, may just decide to go
ahead and have them cut down the tree. Chairman Andrews told
Mark Vaughan to go ahead with what he has to do, but he would let
him know the results of the City Attorney's ruling.
Chairman Andrews questioned whether or not the Commission could
.make a motion contingent upon the City Attorney's ruling.
. Mary Marsh commented that wculd eliminate a special .meeting..-
Ty Brisgill said before a motion is made he would like to ask
Mark Vaughan why they had six bandit signs at their Greenshire
Oaks entrance last weekend. Mark Vaughan: responded he thought. _
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they. were allowed ten signs. Ty Brisgill then explained to Mr.
Vaughan they were allowed two signs at .the entrance, one on each
side, and then ten signs along Jack Hays Boulevard between FM 78
and IH-35.
Joe Potempa made a motion to approve the request from Vaughan
Homes for a 1Q' rear yard setback variance (from 20' to 10`) at
1504 Oak Tree Circle, Lot 19, Block 1, Greenshire Oaks
Subdivision contingent upon the ruling frorl the City Attorney
that the Planning and Zoning Commission has the authority to
grant such a variance.
Mary Marsh seconded the m.^tian and the vote was as follows:
AYES: B. Andrews, M. Marsh, J. Potempa
~?AYS: T. Brisgill, K. Van Dine, M. Willman
The vote being deadlocked, the motion failed to carry.
Mary Marsh, asking if further discussion was in order after the
vote, said she would just like to say briefly that the request
might have come in for a subdivision ether than Greenshire Oaks,
tfcr example Oak Forest) and may possibly have been disapproved
because of the size .^f the lot, the number of trees, aesthetics,
etc.
A couple of the rnemb:~rs pointed cut they had voted tc disapprove
„i the motion because of the contingency not necessarily because
they disapprove of the requested variance.
Merwin Willman passed cut to the Commission copies of the minutes
of October 14, 1986 showing where Vaughan Homes had been given a
previous variance for Greenshire Oaks. Mr. 6ti7illman said he
thought it would be nice, if when a change is requested, the
Commission knew if ether changes had been granted to the same
person and/or subdivision.
Keith Van Dine commented he thought it would be nice if the
Commission were allowed to go into executive session rather than
having to discuss whether or not something is legal in front of
citizens.
Merwin Willman said he also wished they could go into executive
session, he has asked about it many times.
Chairman Andrews informed the Commission they can gc into
executive session, they just cannot make ar~y decision or ruling
or take a vote an anything while in an executive session.
Iseith Van Dine said it seems to him, that according to the law,
the Planning and Zoning Commission has the authority to create an
ordinance or zoning district, but net the- authority to do
anything with it afterwards.
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Ty Brisgill remarked, that to him, the ordinances are the law of
the City- of Schertz and it bothers-him that only one, the Zoning
Ordinance, is being picked out as the one more important than the
others.
~9 GENERAL DISCUSSION: (Note: Need to discuss the preparation
of the annual report to City Council.)
The annual report had already been discussed and .there was no
other general discussion.
X10 ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Andrews adjourned the mee~ing at 8:~? P.M.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is August 23, 1988.
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