02-11-1992 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a
regular session on Tuesday, February 11, 1992 in the
Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway..
Those present were as follows:
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN LONDA PHILLIPS
JIM SHRIVER, VICE-CHAIRMAN
.KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY CITY STAFF
GEORGE VICK
BOBBIE VONADA STEVE SIMONSOh,
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILPERSON ASST. CITY MANAGER
NORMA ALTHOUSE,
MEMBERS ABSENT _RECORDING SECRETARY
MERWIN WILLMAN
GARY BRLCKEN
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to"order at 7:00 P.M.
#2 APPROVAL OF°-MINUTES: Regular Session January.28, 1.992
Keith Van Dine made `a motion to approve the minutes,.for the
regular. session January 28, 1992. Bobbie Vonada seconded the
motion and the :vote was as follows:
AYES: B. Andrews, K. Van Dine, G. Vick, B. Vonada
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: J. Shriver
Motion carried.
#3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
Londa Phillips was at the meeting on behalf of Odo Riedel and
had three items to bring before the Commission.
(1) Presented the Emergency Preparedness Plan for Pecan Grove
Mobile Home Park which had been compiled in cooperation with
Police Chief Agee and Fire Chief Melton.
(2) Reported that at the backside of the back entrance to
Pecan Grove there are gates now so people can exit when it
floods. ,
(3) Related that Mr. Riedel had been working with Rocky
Aranda on the replat, but dismissed him yesterday, so
tomorrow they will start with a new engineering firm.
#4 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Proposed .Changes o
the Zoning Map and Proposed Special Overlay..
District - Schertz Parkway
Chairman Andrews reminded the Commission they had received,
in their packages, a listing of all the proposed changes<-to
the Zoning Map and also a copy of the proposed Schertz
Parkway Overlay District with all the changes as.auggested;at
the last meeting.
The Commission reviewed the proposed Schertz Parkway Overlay
.District and discussed a few things, but had no further
changes to recommend. Among those items 'discussed were
banners on buildings versus banners across the roadway, flush
.mounted signs, radio, TV or microwave towers allowed-with a
Specific Use Permit, and whether or not 'a halfway house could.
be permitted according to the Schedule of.,Jses.
Keith Van Dine made a motion to recommend the proposed
changes ro the Zoning Map and the proposed Schertz Parkway
Overlay District be forwarded to City Council for review and
the possible scheduling. of a public hearing. , .Tim..`. Shriv`r
seconded the moticn and ;the ;:vote.. was unanimous in favor.`
Motion carried.
#5 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Updating of
Comprehensive Plan
Included: in .the-Commissioners packages were pages on Goals.,;
and Objectives, City Gover~iment and Economic Conditions which
Steve.Simonson had compiled for review.`
Mr. Simonson distributed some further information; to! the'
Commission regarding Public Facility Services, a..:.population`
growth chart, Appendix 6 (a City organization chart);
Appendix 7 (Water Construction Projects),,Appendix 8 (Police
Department Comprehensive Plan), and Appendix:9 tRecreation
Facility Requirements).
Mr. Simonson remarked he hopes the information is on ,the
right track and informed them they should now have tin one:
form or another) everything done, at least in draft form,.
on items 1 through 5J listed in the Table of Contents..
Mr. Simonson then commented he will give them a better copy
of the population information. '
Mr. Simonson advised he needs Chairman Andrews help with
work on Housing, he will be working on Transportation, and
Climate and Resources, which we already have, he will rework
a little.
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Steve Simonson went on to say he is dedicated to getting this
thing off dead center. We will refine it the best we know
how, put it in final draft version and send it to City
` Council for their comments. When it comes back from City
Council with their comments, it will be sent to all
departments far their last update and then put together in
the recommended final version and sent to City Council for
approval.
Keith Van Dine had a question on land use. Mr. Van Line,
saying land use has to tie in with other things, wanted to
know if we want it as it was, as it is and how it's going to.
- be in the future.
Steve Simonson replied he thinks it would be best to show
what it is and what we want it to be. Mr. Simonson went on
to say that as far as a Comprehensive Plan is concerned, you
have to be able to dream or it's worthless..
Keith Van Dine agreed.. Mr. Van Dine expressed the opinion-
, that you have to write down the ideal situation. If it
doesn ` t happen, it doesn't,' but' if it' s not ` written. ' down
anywhere, it surellT won't happen.
Steve Simonson explained that with a Comprehensive Pian you
-hope for a utopian view tempered by reality.
George Vick mentioned that the Ccmprehensive Plan.should tie
in with the Capital Improvement Plan' and Steve Simonson
pointed out it should be the other way around and then
indicated that the beginnings are there right now.
Keith Van Dine emphasized that"one of the most important keys
to growth is water.
George Vick observed, that as :far, for .example, as the Police
Department and Fire Department are concerned, there: may be-
some facilities needed which require large sums of ''money
through taxes and these departments may have other; major
programs we dan't know about. Mr. .Vick wanted to know -the
overall income of the City.
Steve Simonson stressed that five-year plans for.: various
departments, some of them involving needed facilities, was
part of the information he had provided them this evening.
Mr. Simonson, also mentioned you don't want the overall
income of the City included in this.
Chairman Andrews, using the Schirmerville area as an example,
noted it will be zoned R/A for sometime, that I-10 will
eventually have some general business growth, and that water
is needed if the area is to develop. Mr. Andrews added,
also, that a larger tax base f_or the City will provide more
income, it doesn't necessarily have to be a raise in taxes.
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To this Steve Simonson stated that sales taxes provide life
` blood for cities and he feels IH-35 will supply a lot of
growth. Mr. Simonson said he did not include funding for
major projects, but suggestions for funding will have to be
included.
George Vick admitted he doesn't want the Commission to write
a Comprehensive Plan that will be put on the shelf.
Councilman Ken Greenwald, referring back to George Vick's
statement about taxes, acknowledged there are various. ways to
build things without raising taxes such as through bonds,
through increments, and through an .increased tax base.
Steve Simonson related that a Comprehensive Plan should be a
physical plan with a guideline for the future. Mr. Simonson
said, in his opinion, the legislature will eventually pass a;
law whereby the Comprehensive'Plan is-.the primary .document
far development within a city and not .the Zoning Ordinance.
Councilman Ken Greenwald remarked. the City, is operating on
what is probably a 5-year minimal plan:" Mrw Greenwald then`
brought up an example from some yParS~back of bond, money.
being approved for streets ir.-.Mobile Villa but no4 approved.
for water lines .and how. t}.ie City ;-?aould have been foolish to
put in the streets without .having first uut`in the water
Iines.
Steve Simonson informed the Commission there's,rio..athex plan
out there from any department that they :don't have.,
Chairman Andrews suggested the Commission digest `the'
_ information they have received, put, it in their books, and
bring it back for discussion at the meeting of March <10th.-
The Commission agreed to this plan..
#6 GENERAL DISCUSSION
Jim Shriver:
(a) Asked if the Planning-Commission Journal is something
they receive periodically and Steve Simonson replied yes it
is.
tb) Referred to "Revisions to Code Relating to Junk and
Abandoned Autos" given to the Commission several meetings
back and asked what number (5) means. It reads as follows:.
"(5) If a hearing is requested within ten t10) days after
service of notice to abate the nuisance. the City must
provide a public hearing before the .removal of the vehicle or
before the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of
Schertz. A resolution or order requiring the removal of the
vehicle or a vehicle part must include a description of the
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vehicle and the correct vehicle identification number and
license number of the vehicle if the information is available
at the site."
Mr. Shriver asked what this means.
Steve Simonson declared that the lawyers had written it up
and it is in compliance with State law.
Councilperson Ken Greenwald replied it means the City needs
some form of identification for the vehicle or vehicle part.
Mr. Shriver asked if tY:is also means there has to be a
public hearing and was told yes, if a hearing is requested,
it has to be a public. hearing.
Chairman Andrews mentioned this was the same paragraph Merwin
Willman had questioned. They took.Planning,and Zoning out of
the procedures, but put them back in for the public hearng.-
(c) Mentioned Steve Simonson's notes to the Commission about
Home Occupations and said discussion of this subject. should
be on the next agenda.
Steve Simonson admitted the section of the ordinance on Home
Occupations needs a lot of refining.
Chairman Andrewsinformed,the Commission his definition of a
Home Occupation is am individual who wishes to work at home
for the .purpose of gaining some resou~celincome- wthout-
having to leave their family to_go to work. He doesn't think
it should involve, for example, seven people in ',.the ;same
_ family where all you have is the house, otherwi e why do we
have General Business and Neighborhood Service zonings. Mr.
Andrews asked the Commission to think it over before ahe nest
meeting. _
Keith Van Dine brought up the point also, that it should be
considered if the home occupation is a primary or secondary
source of income.
Chairman Andrews:
(a) Reported there's an old school bus and an old truck
parked on the lot behind Chico's Paint and Body Shop.
Steve Simonson stated the property owner parked them there.
Mr. Simonson said first the owner was going to start a
construction business and then some other kind of business,
but nothing has worked out so far. Mr. Simonson said he did
require the property owner to put up,a fence.
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ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 7:50 P.M.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is February 25, 19.92.
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