10-13-1992 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission conducted a public
meeting on Tuesday, October 13, 1992 at 7:00 P.M. in the
Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway,
Schertz, Texas. Those present were as follows:
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN STEVE SIMONSON,
MERWIN WILLMAN ASST. CITY MANAGER
GEORGE VICK NORMA ALTHOUSE, PLANNING
BOBBIE VONADA SECY./DPTY. CITY SECY.
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN GAIL DOUGLAS, LIBRARIAN
MEMBERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT
KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY RICHARD CERVANTES, LIBRARY
ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER
ROBERT LEININGER,
FISHER ENGINEERING
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the public meeting to order at 7:00
P.M. (There were no citizens present, so the public meeting
was held in the conference room rather than the Council
Chambers as posted.)
#2 PUBLIC MEETING: To Receive Input from the Citizens as to
Long-Range Planning for the Schertz Library and All Aspects of
Media Needs for the Citizens of Schertz
Chairman Andrews advised this is the first of the public
meetings that will be held on the Development and Growth Plan.
Librarian Gail Douglas and Library Advisory Board Member
Richard Cervantes were at the public meeting.
LIBRARY
Chairman Andrews advised that what we're going to discuss first
are the long-range plans for the library. Mr. Andrews then
asked Gail Douglas, since a notice of the meeting had been
posted at the library, if she had any input from citizens.
Ms. Douglas related there were three major concerns expressed
to: her by citizens: (1) they don't want to tear the library
down; (2) they don't want to raise taxes to build a new
library; and (3) they don't want the location of the library
to change.
George Vick asked if the library has room to expand.
Gail Douglas responded that the building, itself, if it grows
anymore in length, will not be what library professionals
recommend as far as a visual image. It's not supposed to be
more than 2 and 1/2 times the length times the width.
Chairman Andrews asked if it can grow in width and Gail Douglas
replied there's not enough property to do that.
Merwin Willman acknowledged there is a possibility of buying
property to the side of the library.
George Vick mentioned using the current parking lot.
Bobbie Vonada questioned the best way to expand without raising
taxes and Gail Douglas answered through volunteerism/community
support.
George Vick then commented there are also grants available.
Gail Douglas reported that the annual tax support per capita
for the library is $4.69 and the state support is $.38 per
capita.
Chairman Andrews asked if there is a national average for per
capita figures and Ms. Douglas replied that a large city would
probably average around $10.00 or $12.00 per capita.
As a side note, Chairman Andrews referred to a letter of
response in the package from City Council supporting the
Commission's efforts on the Development and Growth Plan.
Mr. Andrews then asked Gail Douglas if there is a suggested
population versus the size of a library. Ms. Douglas
commented the Schertz library serves a population of 22,690
because they serve in part of the County. Ms. Douglas went on
to say she has the standards (can get a copy for the Commission
if they want) and they do go up when the population served
reaches 25,000.
Chairman Andrews suggested that the standards be referenced
somewhere in the RATIONALE section of the Library part of the
Plan.
Richard Cervantes of the Library Advisory Board noted we should
be aware of what's happening now in the area with growth in
general and with growth as the result of the closures of Mather
AFB and Chanute AFB. Those individuals moving into the area
will utilize the services of the library.
Chairman Andrews informed Gail Douglas that what we need is a
short synopsis of where the library needs to be in 5 years,
and then in 20 years.
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Steve Simonson mentioned the need for future thinking on the
library since there will. no doubt be lots of changes in
technology.
Gail Douglas mentioned the parking lot and said it needs to be
addressed very soon. The Fire Department is getting busier and
so is the Library which is creating a lot of traffic. Chairman
Andrews observed the parking lot could be a short-range goal.
Chairman .Andrews said, in his opinion, the section of the
Development and Growth Plan on the Library can now be put in
draft form.
Bobbie Vonada asked who sets the standards and Gail Douglas
replied the American Library Association and the Texas Library
Association.
Mrs. Vonada then asked if those associations can cut money if
the standards are not met and Gail Douglas replied yes they
can. If the library were not certified, then it would lose
benefits - in-kind and direct aid.
COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA
Chairman Andrews commented it looks ready, as is, to him.
Bobbie Vonada wondered if the Economic Development Task Force
would have any control over going out and recruiting these
types of businesses.
Councilman Ken Greenwald replied yes, the EDT may want, for
example, to target a small newspaper.
Steve Simonson remarked that as far as Communications Media, he
feels they should keep it in the forefront in case someone has
something that would benefit the City.
There was a brief discussion on the rapidly changing technology
of various forms of communication media such as cable and
satellite dishes.
Bobbie Vonada inquired if anyone in the City, other than Steve
Simonson, has knowledge on these types of things and Mr.
Simonson answered he didn't think the City needed anyone else
at this time.
#3 ADJOURNMENT OF PUBLIC MEETING
Chairman Andrews adjourned the public meeting at 7:19 P.M.
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a
regular session, after the public meeting, in the Municipal
Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas.
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#4 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:20 P.M.
#5 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session,,.. September 22, 1992
Bobbie Vonada pointed out that on page 3, paragraph 5, where it
says "They have now decided to go with an 8' x 12' building",
it should say "They have now decided to go with an 8' x 20'
building."
Mrs. Vonada also noted that on page 8, paragraph 7, in the
sentence "What do see for the future of the Library?", the word
"you" should be inserted before the word "see."
George Vick made a motion to approve the minutes, as amended,
for the regular session, September 22, 1992. Mervin Willman
seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor.
Motion carried.
#6 CITIZENS INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
There was none.
#7 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Vacate and Replat
Lots 8, 9, 10 and 11, Block 1, The Gardens
Subdivision (PC #182-92)
Chairman Andrews related that C.P. Vaughan had called him
saying due to a family emergency he would be unable to attend
the meeting this evening.
Chairman Andrews asked Steve Simonson for staff input.
Steve Simonson informed the Commission that basically what is
being done here is that the easements are being flip-flopped on
the side of the lots at the request of the people buying the
lots.
Mervin Willman indicated the depth of the lots had been left
off the plat and Steve Simonson said he will make sure the
depths are put on the plat.
Mervin Willman commented that a 707' elevation is mentioned in
the flood statement, but wondered where that elevation comes on
the lots.
Councilman Ken Greenwald explained it would be somewhere
between the 706' and 708' elevation.
Steve Simonson told Mr. Willman to remember that the drainage
ditch is platted outside of this subdivision-and that the 707'
elevation follows that property line.
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Mr. Willman still expressed a desire to see where the 707'
elevation comes on the lots.
Steve Simonson noted that they usually do elevations in
increments of two feet, i.e., 706', 708', etc. and with the
engineering and revision of the ditch, this subdivision is not
going to have any flooding.
Chairman Andrews reminded the Commission to remember that this
request is for a change in the easements.
Merwin Willman then asked which paragraph of the Subdivision
Ordinance the Commission is approving this under.
After some discussion it was decided to approve this request
under Article II, Procedure, Section 16.5, Vacation of Plat,
Paragraph a.9 which reads as follows: "To correct a course or
size of an easement when adjacent owners join the application
for plat amendment and does not have an adverse effect on the
property rights of the other owners in the plat."
Merwin Willman made a motion to approve the request for the
vacate and replat of Lots 8, 9, 10 and 11, Block 1, The Gardens
Subdivision according to the Subdivision Ordinance, Article II,
Procedure, Section 16.5, Vacation of Plat, Paragraph a.9,
subject to the depths of the lots being included on the plat.
George Vick seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in
favor. Motion carried.
~8 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat
Approval - Puccio/Armstrong Subdivision
(PC #183-92)
Robert Leininger of Fisher Engineering was at the meeting to
represent this request.
Chairman Andrews asked for staff input.
Steve Simonson informed the Commission this is a
straightforward request for platting property most of which
lies within the City limits, but part of which is in the
County. The property is located at FM 482 and the NIICT Railroad
in the triangle where the City limits converge. Mr. Simonson
also noted that the existing City limits are not shown on the
plat.
Chairman Andrews observed it is currently zoned PD and asked
Robert Leininger what they plan to do with the property.
Mr. Leininger .replied they plan to put a mobile home on the
property.
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George Vick observed this says subdivision, and that suggests
to him more than one home.
Steve Simonson advised this is a piece out of a piece of
property and to plat it, they are required to follow the
regulations of the ordinance. It doesn't necessarily mean
multiples.
George Vick questioned if this entire property is for one home
and Steve Simonson told Mr. Vick not to be concerned about
that, they are platting a piece of property because it is a
State law to do so.
Merwin Willman commented that the Subdivision Plat Checklist is
not included in the package and that the floodplain statement
is not on the plat.
George Vick mentioned this is just the preliminary plat.
After a brief discussion, George Vick made a motion to approve
the preliminary plat for the Puccio/Armstrong Subdivision
contingent upon the plat showing the existing City limits and
containing the floodplain statement. Included in the motion
was also the request that a checklist be provided to the
Commission.
Merwin Willman seconded the motion and the vote was. unanimous
in favor. Motion carried.
Chairman Andrews told Robert Leininger that Steve Simonson
would be sending him a letter outlining all the things
discussed this evening that need to be shown on the plat.
Mr. Leininger asked Steve Simonson if-the plat had been
reviewed yet by the City .Engineer and Mr. Simonson said it had
not, but would be before the final plat is considered.
#9 REVIEW AND SET PUBLIC HEARING: Possible Name Change for
Jack Hays Blvd.
Chairman Andrews informed the Commission all they're doing is J.
setting up a public hearing.
George Vick asked if Planning and Zoning has the responsibility
for changing the name of a street and Chairman Andrews replied
they have the responsibility for starting up the process.
Merwin Willman stated it doesn't specify what they're going to
rename Jack Hays Blvd. to, but after some discussion it was
agreed they are ..renaming it to Roy Richard Dr.
Mr. Willman also pointed out the Guidelines setup.for this
process and said one of the first things needed is a letter
from the San Antonio Post Office authorizing the proposed name.
George Vick questioned who the applicant is that wants to
rename Jack Hays Blvd. and Councilman Ken Greenwald replied
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the City of Schertz is the applicant.
Merwin Willman stressed that the City should be following the
Guidelines.
George Vick made a motion requesting that the City obtain the
preliminary information required in the "Guidelines for Changes
in Street and Road Names within the City of Schertz" and then
come back to the Commission with the request to start the
process and schedule a public meeting on the possible name
change for Jack Hays Blvd.
Merwin Willman seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous
in favor. Motion carried.
#IO CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Council Reply -
Development and Growth Plan
Chairman Andrews reminded the Commission they have a reply in
their packages from the City Manager and City Council regarding
the Development and Growth Plan. Mr. Andrews said he
particularly likes the statement which says "the keys to a
successful. process is a plan that is developed with an
appreciation for limited resources, simplicity, and to a great
degree, brevity."
Mr. Andrews further said he would like to pass along the fact
that City Council did basically what we've done as far as
talking about what this Plan should be. Mr. Sweatt summarized
those thoughts in the response to the Commission. Mr. Andrews
indicated he had asked for the response to be in writing.
Chairman Andrews remarked Council did agree that the Table of
Contents is good. The only thing he got a different idea from
between listening to them and reading this summarization is
where the Appendices should be. Mr. Andrews said he gets the
feeling from reading this that Council wants the Appendices _
located at City Hall, but not part of the document itself. In
other words, they will be at City Hall if anyone wishes to
review them.
Chairman Andrews commented the Commission will continue on
doing as they have been with the Development and Growth Plan
and asked which sections they wish to tackle next.
Merwin Willman suggested following the order of the Table. of
Contents and George Vick thought public services, for example,
Police, Fire, and EMS should be covered together at one time.
Chairman Andrews observed that by covering one group per month,
they should have a draft ready by the end of six months.
It was decided to cover sections C, D, and E (Police, Fire and
EMS) at the November 10th meeting.
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Steve Simonson noted it will be mentioned in the Newsletter,
but he can't guarantee it being published in the Herald
Community Calendar. (The Herald failed to publish this
evening's public meeting in their Community Calendar.)
#11 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: REAPPOINTMENT OF
PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS
1. Keith Van Dine
2. George Vick
3. Mervin Willman
4. Leonard Zych (has turned in letter of
resignation to City Council)
Chairman Andrews suggested, because they only have 4 members
present, that Items #11 and #12 be tabled until the next
meeting. We will make sure Keith Van Dine is present and take
care of this business during the first part of the meeting.
Steve Simonson pointed out that City Council can go ahead and
make reappointments, they don't need our recommendation.
Councilman Ken Greenwald related he would see what he could
work out at the workshop tomorrow night.
Chairman Andrews suggested, then, that City Council take care
of Item #11.
#12 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Election of
Officers
1. Chairman
2. Vice-Chairman
3. Historian
Chairman Andrews asked that Item #12 be tabled until the next
meeting.
#13 GENERAL DISCUSSION
George Vick•
(a) Noted there is a van with flat tires next to the old bingo
hall on FM 78 that hasn't been moved now for three or four
months. (Steve Simonson said he would have the inspectors
check into it.)
(b) Asked if the City has something in their ordinances that
requires. a Certificate of Occupancy and was told by Councilman
Ken Greenwald they do.
Mr. Vick said at one of the meetings at the APA Conference it
was brought out that a particular city (he can't remember which
one) has regulations in its ordinance whereby the inspectors go
out and inspect rental houses to see if they need painted or
need repairs or have a lot of garbage in the yard, and if they
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do, the City won't issue a Certificate of Occupancy.
This prompted some discussion on whether or not the property
has to change hands, on whether or not the previous Certificate
of Occupancy is revoked, who reimburses the owner when a renter
can't move in because of the Certificate of Occupancy not being
issued,. how the City would know there's been a change in
occupancy, and if this would stand up when challenged in court.
Councilman Ken Greenwald remarked that normally when a
Certificate of Occupancy is issued, it is ad infinitum.
Chairman Andrews added that Universal City requires every new
business to get a new Certificate of Occupancy.
Steve Simonson asked George Vick to write for a copy of this
ordinance.
Merwin Willman
(a) Remarked on the tax increment financing fors Schertz
Parkway and stressed it needs to get off dead center.
Chairman Andrews asked if the Commission hadn't done all they
can do in regard to tax increment financing.
Councilman Ken Greenwald replied yes they had an now it's up to
Mark Marquez and to City Council.
Chairman Andrews then asked Mr. Greenwald if he could get some
feedback from Mark Marquez and Mr. Greenwald replied he will
bring it up at the City Council workshop.
Steve Simonson•
(a) Told the Commission that, for their information, the
contract for the widening of FM 3009 is being let on January
11, 1993. It is projected it will be 18 months to two years
until completion.
(b) Reminded the Commission of the orange cards they received
inviting them to the meeting of the San Antonio Section APA on
Thursday, October 29 at Village Oaks Hospital. Mr. Simonson
said he would like as many Commissioners as possible to attend.
They want each city to make about a l0 minute presentation.
Mr. Simonson requested that the Commission let him know by the
next meeting on October 27 what they want to do.
Chairman Andrews:
(a) Notified the Commission that as far as the sign proposal
from Goofy Golf, the City Council has decided to go ahead and
tear the sign down.
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(b) Reported he was glad to see so many attend the APA
conference. Said four books, which they felt would be valuable
to the Commission, had been ordered.
#14 ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:24 P.M.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is October 27, 1992.
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