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PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission conducted a public
hearing on Tuesday, December 8, 1992 at 7:00 P.M. in the
Municipal Complex conference room, 1400 Schertz Parkway,
Schertz, Texas. Those present were as follows:
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN
OLIVER NELSON, SECRETARY
BOBBIE VONADA
DAVID RICHMOND
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN
MEMBERS ABSENT
GEORGE VICK, VICE - CHAIRMAN
MERWIN WILLMAN
KEITH VAN DINE
OTHERS PRESENT
BETTY KRUETLER,
4212 SHADY OAK
MARY GARCIA,
1012 ROBERT DERRICK
WANDA KOCH,
BOSWELL - NIEMIETZ REALTY
CITY STAFF
STEVE SIMONSON,
ASST. CITY MANAGER
NORMA ALTHOUSE,
RECORDING SECRETARY
(The public hearing was advertised to be held in the Council
Chambers, but because only three citizens showed up, it was
held in the conference room.)
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:04 P.M.
#2 PUBLIC HEARING: To receive citizen input on the intent to
consider renaming Jack Hays Blvd /FM 3009
to Roy Richard Dr /FM 3009
Chairman Andrews explained the procedures that would be
followed for the public hearing and that Planning and Zoning
has ten days to make its recommendation to City Council.
Mr. Andrews then asked for Staff input.
Steve Simonson reported that 31 letters had been sent to
property owners effected by this proposed change.- Seven
letters were returned - 4 opposed and 3 °in favor.
Betty Kruetler of 4212 Shady Oak commented she has been in the
area all of her life and has nothing against Roy (Doc) Richard,
but thinks something such as a library should be named in his
honor instead of this road.
Mary Garcia of 1012 Robert Derrick asked why this is being done
to which Chairman Andrews replied it is a request from City
Council. Mrs. Garcia felt the name should be left as is.
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Wanda Koch of Boswell - Niemietz Realty remarked she has been a
resident of Schertz since 1945 and the name of the road should
never have been changed in the first place from FM 3009..
Mrs. Koch then explained that she supports the letter that was
returned to the City from Boswell - Niemietz Realty.
The letter basically disapproves of the proposed name change
stating cost to businesses and property owners and confusion to
citizens.
Chairman Andrews explained that City Council has the authority
to change the name, Planning and Zoning is just an intermediary
body. Mr. Andrews also suggested that the citizens attend the
City Council public hearing which will be held December 15th in
the Council Chambers.
There was discussion about how the ten days comes in if
Council's public hearing is scheduled for the 15th. Steve
Simonson noted that the notice in the paper is put in for both
Planning and Zoning and City Council at the same time to save
time and expense, but the option is always there giving the
Commission ten days to make its recommendation.
Councilman Ken Greenwald related that City Council will still
hold a public hearing, but it is not necessary to make a
decision that evening.
Oliver Nelson inquired how many letters went to people that own
vacant land so therefore could care less about the name change
and didn't respond.
.Steve Simonson reviewed the seven letters that were returned.
Of the four opposed, two were single family dwelling units, one
was a business and one was a landowner with nothing on the
land. Of the three in favor, two were. landowners with no
:buildings on the lot and one was an investment company.
David Richmond asked Steve Simonson if he is planning to tell
the Commission what the letters say and Mr. Simonson summed up
the replies of those opposed as against the cost, against the
confusion and the questioning of why the City is doing this.
Mr. Richmond then asked how long it has. been Jack Hays Blvd.
and Steve Simonson replied since either 1986 or 1987.
Bobbie Vonada wondered- who calls it Jack Hays Blvd. She
thought it was FM 3009.
.David Richmond asked what the Highway.D_epartment is going to
call it and was told Jack Hays Blvd /FM :3009. Mr. Richmond
then questioned where-it says that on IH -35. Steve . "Simonson
answered there was a sign on IH -35 and the access road coming
south, but he thinks they took it down when they started
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construction. They will probably put it back up once
construction is finished.
#3 ADJOURNMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING
Chairman Andrews thanked everyone for their input and adjourned
the public hearing at 7 :19 P.M.
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a
regular session, after the public hearing, in the Municipal
Complex conference room.
#4 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:20 P.M.
#5 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Joint Session November 2-4, 1992
Bobbie Vonada made a motion to approve the minutes for the
joint session November 24, 1992. David Richmond seconded the
motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried.
#6 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
There was none.
#7 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Intent to consider
renaming Jack Hays Blvd /FM 3009 to Roy
Richard Dr /FM 3009
Bobbie Vonada asked what the cost is to the City and Steve
Simonson advised it is $32.00 for every sign and there are
approximately 11 signs. This, of course, does not count the
manhours.
Chairman Andrews asked about the signs on IH -35 - who pays for
them. Steve Simonson replied the Highway Department.
Oliver Nelson observed it's all taxpayer money.
Steve Simonson stated you also have to take into consideration
the cost to businesses. As a matter of fact, several people
have told him that if it's changed again, they will just use FM
3009 as their address.
Oliver Nelson inquired as to who Jack Hays is. Councilman Ken
Greenwald replied he is one of the original Texas Rangers. who
lived in the local area.
Oliver Nelson asked about criteria for a street name change, or
can it just be changed to anything at the request of a citizen.
Steve :Simonson- pointed out the City does have a policy which
outlines steps to follow on how to change the name, but there
is no criteria as far as who a street can be named after.
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Bobbie Vonada remarked that from what people have been telling
her, they agree that something should be done to honor Doc
Richard for all that he did to help develop Schertz, but they
feel that a building, such as the community center or the
library, a park, or perhaps a jogging trail should be named
after him.
Chairman Andrews acknowledged he has been hearing the same
thing from people.
David Richmond mentioned that recently some sections of I -10
were renamed, but people still call those sections I -10. He's
not sure renaming a road is a good vehicle.
Mr. Richmond went on to say that since the renaming of FM 3009
to Jack Hays Blvd. is so recent and is historically
significant, he feels we need a plaque saying why we call it
Jack Hays Blvd. Mr. Richmond also pointed out that it takes
time, sometimes years, for people to get accustomed to calling
something by a different name.
Oliver Nelson expressed his agreement with those comments and
suggested it is more appropriate to name a building, i.e., the
community center, after Doc Richard.
Chairman, Andrews commented he agrees and reminded the
Commission when they make their recommendation to City Council
they need to be specific about their reasons for that
recommendation.
There was then discussion about the expense to businesses such
as business cards, letterhead, signs and billboards. Bobbie
Vonada indicated that, in fairness to Boswell - Niemietz Realty,
all this should be taken into consideration. They are probably
one of the most productive businesses along Jack Hays Blvd.
Oliver Nelson made a motion to recommend to City Council that
the section of FM 3009 between IH -35 and FM 78, currently known
as Jack Hays Blvd., not be changed to Roy Richard Dr.
The reasons cited for this decision are as follows:
(1) Due to the recent name change, Jack Hays Blvd. should be
allowed to keep its name giving it time to grow and allowing
time for people to become accustomed to calling it Jack Hays
Blvd. instead of FM 3009;
(2) Something else such as a building,.a park, a jogging trail
or a residential street should be found to honor Doc Richard
and his many contributions to the growth of the City; and
(3) The expense to businesses such as letterhead, business
cards, signs and billboards, as well as the expense to the City
of Schertz, does not warrant the change.
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Bobbie Vonada seconded the motion.and the vote was unanimous in
favor. Motion carried.
#8 CONSIDER AND MARE RECOMMENDATION: Development and Growth
Plan update.(Review of State and Federal Services, Recreation,
Schools and Public Housing)
Chairman Andrews informed the Commission Steve Simonson has put
together Goals, Objectives and Rationale on these four subjects
for their review. We.will be seeking citizen input at the
public meeting in January.
Steve Simonson noted the public meeting will be held at the
first meeting in January which is the 12th.
State and Federal Services
There was discussion about who goes after these services,
grants, etc., about needing a lobbyist (it was decided
information is fed in from so many sections, we probably have
lobbyists without realizing it), and about the fact the City
has liaisons as far as people on different boards /councils of
organizations throughout the community.
There were no changes to Steve Simonson's write -up.
Recreation
Current parks, areas designated as parks.that don't really lend
themselves as parks,-greenbelts that could be used as parks
(which idea does not appeal to residents in some subdivisions),
the fact that a floodplain but not a floodway can be used as a
park, the fact that sometimes in the past areas were dedicated
as a park just so the City had to maintain them, the fact that
Planning and Zoning has control over approval of a Master Plan
designating park land, and the fact that the ordinance now
states when a developer comes in with a Master Plan, he has to
dedicate either land or money for a park were all discussed.
There were no changes to Steve Simonson's write -up.
Schools
The need for higher educational facilities in the area, the
need for public transportation for college students, the fact
that in some cities the school and city get together and use
each other's facilities, and the suggestion to invite Randolph
to join us in this effort were all discussed.
Steve Simonson was asked to include in his write -up something
about maintaining contact with the education officer for RAFB
:in- a -continuing effort to pursue higher -educational
opportunities for our citizens.
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Public Housing
Among those items discussed were the amount of public housing
in Schertz of which people are not aware, the fact that of all
the sister cities in the Randolph region, Schertz is the only
one, that has a Housing Authority, that public housing should
not .be concentrated in one area - it should 'be scattered
throughout the City, that even though it's not advertised, the
appropriate agencies such as GRASP and RACAP all know public
housing is available, and that Planning and Zoning and the
Planning Department should have input on public housing.
There were no changes to Steve Simonson's write -up.
Chairman Andrews asked the Commissioners to look over the plan
and decide what subjects they would like to discuss at the
public meeting in February and have their suggestions ready at
the January 12th meeting.
#9 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Cancellation of
meeting scheduled for December 22, 1992
Bobbie Vonada made a motion to cancel the Planning and Zoning
meeting scheduled for December 22, 1992. Oliver Nelson
seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor.
Motion carried.
#10 GENERAL DISCUSSION
David Richmond:
(a) Admitted he is a fan of recycling and asked if Schertz
still has it and if they're considering adding additional
times.. Councilman Ken Greenwald replied yes, they do still
have it (there was an item about it in the Newsletter) and
Henry Gutierrez will be at the Council workshop, so he will ask
him how it's going.
Mr. Greenwald also reported that Randolph AFB has started a
program and the location is out behind the old youth center.
Bobbie Vonada•
(a) Asked everyone if they had seen the Christmas lights.
Councilman Ken Greenwald advised they still need judges for the
contest.
Steve Simonson added there have been so-me changes in the
contest from last year. die already has the plaques and so far
we have - eleven entrants..
(b) Asked if the Water Department is still notifying.-people
that their water will be off for a period of time and Steve
Simonson said yes.
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Councilman Ken Greenwald:
(a) Reported City Council had a public hearing last Tuesday on
the curfew and most citizens are in favor of it. Council
approved the first reading and the second reading will be
December 15th. The ordinance will become effective 15 days
after it is published in the newspaper. Mr. Greenwald
reminded everyone not to think of this as a panacea, but just
as a step.
Steve Simonson:
(a) Related that as of January, he is the new Secretary of the
San Antonio Chapter of the APA and he will be contacting the
Commissioners about attending meetings.
At this time David Richmond remembered he had wanted to ask if
Mr. Ghormley of Hallmark - Ghormley had called back to arrange a
tour for the Commission of some of that company's developments.
Steve Simonson replied he had not heard back from him.
Chairman Andrews:
(a) Advised everyone that Merwin Willman rarely misses a
meeting, but his. wife passed away several weeks ago. and his
mother passed away over the weekend. He has gone to upper
state New York for her funeral. He does plans to be back for
the January 12th.meeting.
(b) 'Wished everyone a happy-and safe holiday.
(c) Hinted they still need volunteers for judges for the
Christmas lighting contest and if anyone's interested, call
Norma at City Hall at 658 -4611.
#11 ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:25 P.M.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is January 12, 1993.
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