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03-23-1993 ,~er''r' - PLANNING AND ZONING MINU'T`ES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session on Tuesday, March 23, 1993 at 7:00 P.M. in the Municipal Complex conference room, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas. Those_,prESent were as ...follows: PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION OTHE}2S PRESENT BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN ..DAVID ALLEN GEORGE VICK, VICE-CHAIRMAN OLIVER NELSON, SECRETARY MERWIN WILLMAN KEITH VAN DINE BOBBIE VONADA DAVID RICHMOND .-.KEN GREENWALD,.COUNCILMAN -~1~Y STAFF ST£V£ -°~INlONSON, ASST. CITY MGR. NORMA`ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECRETARY #1 CALL TO ORDER ~'i~a~ rman Andrews. called the meeting to order at 7:Ofl P.~. - #2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session March 9, 1993 4 Sophie ..Vonada .made - _.~.~~~sa..ta .a~rove :the minutes fir the regular session March 9, 1993. David Richmond seconded the motion and. , ~iL',. vQte was a5 follows : AYES::"B. Andrews, G. Vick, O. Nelson, K. Van Dine, B. Vonada, D. Richmond 'NAYS: None ABSTENTIONS: M. Willman Motion carried. #3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS There . wa.s, ..none , 'hONSiDER :ANfl'~TAiC£"` ROPRhATE •'~"AC°PiC3N. i -I'irta7 ` P3.a~ .and Site Plan Approval - HEB 3~I~'M :309 - .Subdivision jPC #.191-93) - - David Allen of MBC Engineers was at the meeting to represent this request. Chairman Andrews asked for Staff input. - i Steve Simonson informed the Commission they have the final lat and site plan before them. The Cit E P and recommends approval. Everything islnowronatheesiteeplanem it shows a staggered layout. Also,. in the package is a picture of What they-propose for their pylon sign. They are requesting a 10' variance allowing them to Jack-in-the-Box, McDonald's and Dpamond Shamrockgallnhave signs ~ which are 75' in height. The ~ pylon sign they are requesting is ' the type authorized for a shopping center. Merwin Willman asked where the height of the sign is shown and was told on both the site plan and the picture in the package. Steve Simonson commented that on FM 3009 they are showing a 6' x 13' HEB berm sign which falls within the requirements of the overlay ordinance. The Staff finds nothin to acceptance of the final plat and site plan. g Preclude 13airman Andrews, noting it shows the FM 3009 sign to be 6' x asked which figure is the height and David Allen informed him 6' is the height. Mr. Andrews then went on to say they have had continuous requests from businesses for variances on their signs and wants to make sure the people from HEB understand the ordinance and won't want to tear down the sign and change it at a later date. Mr. Andrews then asked Steve Simonson what the ordinance allows and Mr. Simonson replied 18'9" in height and 90 some square feet. David Richmond made a motion to approve the final plat and site plan for the HEB 35/FM 3009 Subdivision. Oliver Nelson seconded the motion and the vote was as follows: AYES: B. Andrews, G. Vick, O. Nelson, K. Van Dine, B. Vonada, D. Richmond NAYS: None ABSTENTIONS: M. Willman Motion carried. #5 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Request from Alvin L. and Aileen Greaves to Rezone a 6.6897 Acre Tract of Land from Residential Agriculture (R/A) to General Business (GB). (This item was tabled February 9, 1993) Chairman Andrews asked Steve Simonson for an update. Steve Simonson related that he and Chairman Andrews reviewed all the paperwork submitted by Alvin Greaves and found Mr. Greaves to be telling the truth. He never lost control of the 40 acres (of which the 6.6897 tract is a part) prior to or after annexation by the City of Schertz. Technically, he is grandfathered. Mr. Greaves has been cleaning up the area as far as taking care of illegal things and has been cooperating -2- i with the City. Chairman Andrews advised the Commission they need to disa Mr. Greaves request because pprove zoning. Mr. Andrews went on totexpPainvthat bwould be spot 'the request Mr. y disa use of the land canrcontinuelonsas issats PProving Y - grandfathered. His it, present until he sells Keith Van Dine observed the Commission has no need to approve or disapprove the request if Mr. Greaves' pro ert grandfathered. P y is Steve Simonson pointed out the Commission is simpl tak' formal action on Mr. Y ing parliamentar Greaves written request - it is a item Y Procedure type of action. When you have a tabled you have to either approve or disapprove it. Bobbie Vonada Greaves cannotquerectnanylmoreecommercialdbuildincslY that Mr. and Steve Simonson said that's right. g out there I Mervin Willman made a motion (based on evide Alvin Greaves that he was grandfathered whene theovCaty of Schertz annexed the area behind Randolph Air Force Base and never lost control of 40 acres of land of which the requested rezoning of a 6.6897 tract is a part) to disa from Alvin L. and Aileen Greaves to rezone ap6r6897tacreetract of land from Residential/Agriculture (R/A) to General Business (GB). Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried. ~6 GENERAL DISCUSSION Ke_ Van Dine• (a) Asked if anyone has heard anything about a company called Cable Max. They say they have a tower in Schertz and the people they are providing service to are are happy with them. Steve Simonson indicated he is not aware of any tower other than the request for a cellular telephone tower. Mr. Van Dine commented it costs a minimum of $100 for the installation and then the basic package is anywhere from $24 on up to $46. Steve Simonson noted that Paragon Cable has plans to convert from wire to fiber optics and that will change a lot of things. Councilman Ken Greenwald stated that T.J. was at the last City Council workshop andC~was11askedPaabout providing service to the Schirmerville area. Mr. Connoll said they are rethinking the ,situation and going back and looking at possibly providing service to smaller clusters of -3- i homes. Mr. Van Dine then asked Steve Simonson if the Cable Max people shouldn't be coming into City Hall to notify the City they are going to be selling in the area and Mr. Simonson replied yes they should. Oliver Nelson inquired if Paragon makes improvements, will they raise their basic rates. Councilman Greenwald replied they are looking at reducing prices because if they don't do something, they will be re-regulated. Chairman Andrews mentioned he had spoken to a telephone company employee and was told something they are doing is taking a 10" cable and turning it into a cable about the size of your finger (which will handle about 10 times as much as a 10" cable) and then they can go into you security system, your TV set and lots of things right in your home. It wouldn't require any more cables because they would already be there. The cable companies are getting a big scare because the telephone company has the ability to do this. Councilman Greenwald mentioned that the GVEC telephone cooperative is into cable TV and home security at about a third of the cost. Chairman Andrews then welcomed Merwin Willman back and asked if he had anything for General Discussion. Merwin Willman• (a) Asked the status of the street name change of Live Oak Boulevard because City Council concurred at their workshop the Commission should go ahead with the process. Chairman Andrews commented nothing has ever come back to the Commission from City Council. Councilman Ken Greenwald acknowledged the Commission should get some paperwork from City Council telling them to go ahead with the process. George Vick• (a) Noted that at Randolph and Curtiss they have a huge antenna. Does it met City regulations? Steve Simonson said yes it does. (b) Reported that at Lindbergh and Brooks there is an RV on a concrete pad with the wheels off and it appears they're hooking hose up for sewer purposes. Steve Simonson said he would check into it. -4- Steve Simonson• (a) Informed the Commission they need to sign the HEB plat. Chairman Andrews: (a) Related he had been looking over what's been done on the Development and Growth Plan and asked if we shouldn't be referencing the appendices since they won't be in the Plan itself. What we are doing is making basically a one sheet scenario for each area in a very general context for a long-range Plan. Also, to make the Plan more or less perpetual, Mr. Andrews suggested that in the Goals and Objectives we state there are 3-5, 5-10 and 10-20 year plans for each area and those be reviewed and updated every year to coincide with the budget process. That way each area in each of the appendices has to go back and review their 3-5, 5-10, and 10-20 year plans before coming to City Council for their budgets. If they are already doing that on an annual basis, then rewrite the plans and update the appendices covering those areas to stay in agreement with where the long-range Development and Growth Plan is going. This assures that each and every year the Plan will be automatically updated and we will wind up with a perpetual Development and Growth Plan. George Vick remarked the Planning and Zoning Commission should review these plans and appendices annually to make sure they comply with the Development and Growth Plan. Bobbie Vonada pointed out they should be reviewed after the budget is approved because the departments might not get some of the things they want. Chairman Andrews commented that if the Commission sees a trend in conflict with the Growth and Development Plan, then they need to take a look at the Goals and Objectives to see if they should be changed. Mr. Andrews then said he likes the general statements in the Plan, even though they have been criticized. George Vick indicated that along with the appendices, the maps should be referenced. Mr. Andrews mentioned we already have the section on Transportation, 'but it needs to be broken -.out as to the individual areas and the same applies to the sections on Climate and Natural Resources. Steve Simonson advised he will have these ready by the next meeting. -5- X12 ADJOURNMENT Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 7:35 P.M. The next regularly scheduled meeting is April 13, 1993. -6-