08-10-1993 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a
regular session on Tuesday, August 10, 1993 at 7:00 P.M. in
the Municipal Complex conference room , 1400 Schertz Parkway,
Schertz, Texas. Those present were as follows:
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN CHARLIE J. SCIASCIA
MERWIN WILLMAN, SECRETARY WILLIAM MARTELL
KEITH VAN DINE FRANK GRANT
DAVID RICHMOND H.B. WILLIAMSON
TONY MORENO GERALDINE WILLIAMSON
PIA JARMAN
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN CITY STAFF
MEMBERS ABSENT STEVE SIMONSON,
ASST. CITY MANAGER
GEORGE VICK, VICE-CHAIRMAN NORMA ALTHOUSE,
RECORDING SECRETARY
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
#2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: A. Public Hearing and Regular Session
July 13, 1993
B. Regular Session July 20, 1993
Mervin Willman made a motion to approve the minutes for the
Public Hearing and Regular Session July 13, 1993 and for the
Regular Session July 20, 1993. Pia Jarman seconded the motion
and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried.
#3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
There was none.
#4 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Approval
.Williamson Subdivision (PC #196-93)
H.B. Williamson, Geraldine Williamson and Frank Grant were at
the meeting to represent this request.
Chairman Andrews asked for_any update from the Staff. Steve
Simonson reminded the Commissioners they have, in their
packages, a copy of the letter from Bexar County authorizing
the septic system. Mr. Simonson also reported the Staff finds
no problem with this plat.
Merwin Willman made a motion to approve the final plat for the
Williamson Subdivision. David Richmond seconded the motion and
the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried.
Chairman Andrews told the Williamsons and Frank Grant he
realizes this property is in our ETJ and he appreciates them
taking the time to come before the Commission.
~5 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat
Approval.- Tri-County Business & Industrial
Park, Unit 1B (PC # 198-93)
Charlie Sciascia and William Martell of Don McCrary &
Associates were at the meeting to represent this request.
Chairman Andrews asked for Staff input.
Steve Simonson informed the Commission this is a preliminary
plat for Taco Bell which will be next to Jack-in-the-Box on the
northeast corner of FM 3009 and IH-35. The Commissioners have
his comments on this in their packages.
Mr. Simonson further stated there are a few corrections needed
on the plat: (a) the signature block for the Commission is
labeled as Dove Meadows and that should be changed; (b) they
need to show the Volume and Page of the 25'access easement
coming to this property; and, (c) they need the owners'
signatures.
Steve Simonson related that water and sewer are available and
there is not a drainage problem on this particular lot.
Merwin Willman referred to the 25' access easement and asked if
it isn't authorized with this plat. Steve Simonson answered if
it's there, they need to identify it.
Mr. Simonson then commented it's his understanding the use of
the access easement is an informal agreement and that was
confirmed by William Martell.
The Commission felt something should be on the plat about the
25' access easement.
Mr. Simonson mentioned long-range planning if you look from
IH-35 to Triton Drive, and said the thinking is there will
eventually be another road splitting the whole area.
Tony Moreno commented sort of like a service road, and Steve.
Simonson said that's correct.
Chairman Andrews asked if 25' is sufficient. Will `it be a 25'
access easement or a 30' right-of-way?
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Steve Simonson answered they don't know yet, it is not part of
the plat. If it is going to be used later on, then it should
be on the plat. If not, then take it off.
Chairman Andrews then inquired if this shouldn't be a vacate
and replat because of being previously platted.
Steve Simonson pointed out Lot 6 is still standing. They are
not vacating anything.
Chairman Andrews admitted that Lot 6 is still standing, but
stressed that Lot 1 is not.
Mr. Simonson commented that Lot 1 has already been cut up once
to which Mr. Andrews said it is being cut up again now.
Originally the whole area was Lot 1, Block 1, then they took
Lot 1 and split it into Lot 1, Block 2 and made Lot 6, Block 2
out of it.
Steve Simonson indicated what you had was the big Lot 2, Block
2, and they have now made Lot 7, Block 2 out of it.
Merwin Willman asked if Lot 6 covers all of Lot 1.
Steve Simonson advised Lot 1 is .the whole piece - it was five
lots originally. They are saying this is Lot 7 of Block 2.
Chairman Andrews asked aren't they vacating Lot 1, Block 2 and
replatting it as Lot 7, Block 2.
Steve Simonson related the problem is they're not showing all
of Lot 1, so he doesn't think it should be a vacate and replat.
They are cutting a piece out, not vacating.
Chairman Andrews stated he was thinking of years from now -
there will be nothing tracking where the lot was divided out.
Steve Simonson declared that Ford Engineering showed no concern
over this situation.
Councilman Ken Greenwald suggested passing it as the
preliminary and then getting a reading on whether or not it's a
replat.
There was a lengthy discussion on this with the result being.
they need to show, on the_ plat, all of Lot 2 and what is being
cut out of it. Also, they need to correct the replat
information pertaining to Lots 1 and 2. A complete record is
needed of what was and what is.
Merwin .Willman referred to the 16' utility easement and asked
why it doesn't go all the way through to the access road.
Steve Simonson answered it is a sewer line and it just needed
to get to those lots tying into the sewer.
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Merwin Willman asked if any of this will effect the status of
the area designated as a Free Trade Zone and Steve Simonson
replied it will not.
David Richmond inquired if the area used as the truck parking
lot is in part of Lot 6 and Steve Simonson responded the truck
parking lot is Lot 7. Mr. Simonson said he wouldn't be
surprised if the owners allow the dirt road to go a little bit
farther and clear off another area for truck .parking because it
is good for the businesses up there.
Chairman Andrews questioned if this Taco Bell is going to be
open 24 hours a day or will it have other hours and Charlie
Sciascia replied he does not know.
Mr. Andrews then wondered if they have any particular design
in mind for the building and Charlie Sciascia indicated he has
not seen any.
Merwin Willman made a motion to approve the preliminary plat
for Tri-County Business & Industrial Park, Unit 1B contingent
on the following additions and/or corrections:
(1) correct subdivision designation on signature line for
Planning and Zoning;
(2) need owners signatures;
(3) unless 25' access easement is part of the plat, remove
from the document;
(4) show all of Lot 2 on final plat; and,
(5) correct replat information pertaining to Lots 1 and 2 -
show entire area as it was before and as it is now.
Tony Moreno seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in
favor. Motion carried.
#fi CONSIDER AND MARE RECOMMENDATION: Review of Comprehensive
Plan and. Executive Summary Pertaining Thereto
Chairman Andrews asked where the Executive Summary will go and
Steve Simonson explained it will be something to hand out and
then if a business is interested, they can contact the Planning
Department:-for a copy of either the entire Comprehensive Plan
or excerpts from it, depending on their needs.
David Richmond made a motion to approve the Comprehensive Plan
and Executive Summary, as written, and forward the final draft
to City Council. Tony Moreno seconded the motion and the vote
was. unanimous in favor.. Motion carried.
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#7 GENERAL DISCUSSION
David Richmond•
Asked if there's any news regarding Greenshire.
Steve Simonson reported that an engineering firm had gotten in
touch with him and it appears they have received preliminary
information about the area. It would seem that since Trammell
Crow contacted him, and now an engineering firm,-that something
is stirring.
Keith Van Dine•
Related he was glad to see some of the potholes on Pfeil Road
filled in and knows the citizens in Schirmerville are glad to
see it.
Steve Simonson told Mr. Van Dine that very preliminary
engineering is going forward on the area for the rebuilding of
the road.
Tonv Richmond•
Remarked that at the last meeting Steve Simonson mentioned
Trammell Crow had contacted him about Greenshire. Mr. .Moreno
said he understood that Trammell Crow is a commercial
developer.
Steve Simonson explained there are three entities of Trammell
Crow - investment, commercial and residential.
Mr. Moreno mentioned that in commercial circles, they have a
very high reputation.
Mr. Simonson indicated that as far as residential, they have a
low reputation right now in Schertz because of some past
situations where they ended up building homes in Thistle Creek
instead of in Schertz.
Mr. Moreno commented they probably fragmented when things were
tough.
Chairman Andrews stated that Pulte (one of the builders in
Thistle Creek) is going strong in Galveston.
Pia Jarman:
Referring to a comment made earlier in the meeting, asked what.
a Free Trade Zone is.
It was explained that in a Free Trade Zone you can bring in raw.
material and/or parts from foreign countries, do something with
them and then ship them out, within a specified period of time,
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and not have to pay any import/export taxes.
Councilman Ken Greenwald noted that compliments of San Antonio,
Schertz has a Free Trade Zone. San Antonio applied for, got
approved, and paid for an area they didn't realize was in our
City.
Steve Simonson explained this came about because the property
was part of a number of properties owned,. at the time, by the
San Antonio Savings Association and they didn't realize some of
that property was in the City of Schertz.
Merwin Willman•
Asked the status of the renaming of Live Oak Blvd.
Steve Simonson told the Commission he's supposed to see Judge
Sagebiel about it. We have tentative agreements .from Cibolo
and Selma.. Mr. Simonson said after he confers with Judge
Sagebiel, he will came back to the Commission .with further
information.
Chairman Andrews asked if it's close enough to to put on the
agenda.
Steve Simonson suggested it be~on the agenda of the first
meeting in September.
Councilman Ken Greenwald:
(a) Revealed that in the latest Newsletter you will see
reference to the proposed annexation by Schertz of land in San
Antonio's ETJ (land along the Cibolo Creek behind Lone Oak
Subdivision). Approximately 27~ of the property owners came in
and asked about getting annexed. If anyone hears questions
about this, please refer them to someone on City Council, to
Kerry. Sweatt, or to Steve Simonson. We have sent.a letter to
San Antonio with these people's petition.
Tony Moreno asked how many acres this involves and Steve
Simonson advised approximately 2500 acres. Councilman
Greenwald added that would give Schertz frontage on both sides
of FM 1518 all the way up to I-10.
The advantages and disadvantages of this were discussed with
Steve Simonson saying it will work out if everything is clear
cut and definite - in other words, the roads belong to San
Antonio, but once you cross the property line, you're in
Schertz.
(b) Related: he and John Bierschwale had attended a Canyon
Regional Water. Authority meeting last night. The plant is
progressing and they are looking at drawing water out of
McQueeney in early 1994. It is an alternative water source.
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Mr. Greenwald further stated in regard to a recent ruling on
the Edwards District, that nothing-takes effect until September
1, and people better start looking at conservation in every way
possible.
(c) Commented the budget process starts right after the
workshop tomorrow night.
Merwin Willman observed the budget process is interesting.
This prompted some discussion about property values, taxes and
storm water fees. Steve Simonson acknowledged that property
valuations in Guadalupe County have gone down every year since
1989.
Steve Simonson:
(a) Reminded the Commissioners they all have a copy of the
notice about the next APA luncheon.
(b) Noted he had information about the street names in Dove
Meadows. The Post Office has approved it, and they will take
the name "Silvertree" on into the subdivision, and there will
be only two streets with "Dove" in the title - "Dove Meadows"
and "Mourning Dove."
(c) Stressed we need to know as soon as possible who's going
to the APA conference in October so registration fees,
room reservations and airline flights can be confirmed.
Chairman Andrews:
Asked Steve Simonson if he had heard any response to the letter
sent to Duane Moy about the street names chosen for Woodland
Oaks, Unit 5 and the Commission's disapproval of them. Mr.
Simonson replied he had not.
At this time David Richmond asked if they could briefly discuss
the courses being offered at the APA conference. Mr. Richmond
commented it's hard to tell from the information they have
received so far just how these courses are laid out.
Steve Simonson told Mr. Richmond he should be getting more
detailed information by the next meeting.
Before adjournment, the Commissioners told Norma Althouse how
many of them plan to attend, .for how many days, what kind of
room reservations they prefer, and whether. they plan to drive
or fly to the conference.
#13 ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:05 P.M. The next
regularly scheduled meeting is August 24 1993.
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