09-13-1994 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission con~zened in regular
session on Tuesday, September 13, 1994 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Municipal Complex conference room, 1400 Schertz Parkway,
Schertz, Texas. Those present were as follows:
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION OTHERS PRESENT
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN JUAN LIZCANO, JR.
KEITH VAN DINE SAM BLEDSOE
DAVID RICHMOND DON MCCRARY
TONY MORENO JOSEPH CASH
COUNCILMAN KEN GREENWALD
CITY STAFF
MEMBERS ABSENT
STEVE SIMONSON,
GEORGE VICK, VICE-CHAIRMAN ASST. CITY MANAGER
MERWIN WILLMAN, SECRETARY NORMA ALTHOUSE,
-..PIA JARMAN RECORDING SECRETARY
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
#2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Public Hearing and Regular Session
August 23, 1994
David Richmond moved to approve the minutes for the public
hearing and regular session August 23 1994. Tony Moreno
seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
#3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
There was none.
#4 CONSIDER AND MARE RECOMMENDATION: Request 'from Dennis and
Dawna Figol to Rezone a 2.410 Acre Tract of
Land from R-2 (Single-Family Dwelling
District) to R-4 (Apartment/Multi-Family
Dwelling District)
There was no one present at the meeting to represent this
request.
Chairman Andrews asked for Staff. input. Steve Simonson
informed the Commission the location of this property is the
Palms Apartments. They are looking to expand and realized it
is not zoned for what's there. The City Inspector informed
them before they could expand, they needed to have the property
rezoned. Of course the apartments were there before the City
had a Zoning Ordinance. Somehow this area was missed when we
=-revised the Zoning Map.
Chairman Andrews stated this will require a public hearing by
both the Commission and by City Council. Mr. Andrews, noting
the entrance they use, asked what happens to it when they widen
FM 78. Steve Simonson answered the entrance between the
doctor's office and the old pharmacy should pretty much stay
the same.
Since the Figol's were not present, Steve Simonson advised the
Commission they could table this request until someone is
available to answer their questions. David Richmond pointed
out we're only recommending a public hearing for the zoning
change, not approving anything yet. Chairman Andrews
indicated, however, he would feel more comfortable if he knew
the Figol's were aware of the FM 78 expansion and Keith Van
Dine shared that opinion. Councilman Ken Greenwald told. tie
Commission that City Council is very concerned about FM 78
considering the fiasco the City has had on FM 3009. Tony
Moreno added it's easier if the Commission can talk with the
~Figol's before this request gets to a public hearing.
Steve Simonson brought up the fact that Wisest Street is not
really a street even though it is perceived as one, and that it
does not go all the way from First Street to the Paims
Apartments as people think it does. There was a utility
easement conveyed about mid way between the doctor's office and
First Street, back in the 1960's, by the people who owned the
property. Burch Roofing has now closed that .ingress/egress
from Wisest Street.
Keith Van Dine moved to table the request from Dennis and Dawna
FigoL to rezone a 2.410 acre tract of land from R-2
(Single-Family Dwelling District) to R-4
(Apartment/Multi-Family Dwelling District) until such time as
the Figol's can be present to answer questions.. Tony Moreno
seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
_ _ *5 CONSIDER AND MARE RECOMMENDATION: Request from Juan
Lizcano, Jr., 1000 Richmond Dr., for a 5'
Front Yard Setback Special Exception Allowing
Him to Build a Carport (BOA #61) `
Juan Lizcano was at the meeting to represent this request.
Chairman Andrews commented this will require a recommendation
to the Board of Adjustment and then asked for Staff input.
Steve Simonson related this is listed as a front yard .setback
variance, but it also deals with the side yard. If you look at
the drawing, you will. see you have Westchester Drive and
Richmond Drive. In effect,, what is being requested here is 5'
to the side yard from the 20' building setback from the street,
not the normal 7' from another house. There is a° lot of
property here and it will not encroach onto the neighbor's
land. Tony Moreno pointed out that's because it is a corner
lot. Chairman Andrews noted the ordinance doesn't call
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for a 20' setback anymore. Steve Simonson admitted that's
correct, but it does call for you to be so far back from the
street.
Juan Lizcano stated he did not count the overhang in his
request and then remarked the carport will be open, not closed.
Tony Moreno asked what happens if he decides to enclose the
carport later on and was told he cannot enclose it. Chairman
Andrews asked Mr. Lizcano how close he will be to the front
and he answered whatever is allowed. Mr. Andrews told him he
has to be back a minimum of 10'.
Tony Moreno moved to recommend approval to the Board of
Adjustment of the request from Juan Lizcano, Jr., 1000 Richmond
Dr., for a 5' front yard setback Special Exception allowing him
to build a carport. David. Richmond seconded the motion and the
vote was unanimous in favor.
Chairman Andrews informed Mr. Lizcano that Steve Simonson will
be sending him a letter giving him the date of the Board of
Adjustment hearing.
#6 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat
Approval - Miller Bros. Partnership No. 3
Subdivision (PC #218-94/A)
Joseph Cash was at the meeting to represent this request.
Chairman Andrews asked for Staff update. Steve Simonson
related this plat doesn't show the contour lines, but it does
show the setback on the interstate and it shows the 50' overlay
ordinance setback on FM 3009. The area is not in a floodplain.
Chairman Andrews pointed out it mentions the 1977 flood map
date instead of 1992 and Joseph Cash said that would be
corrected. Steve Simonson mentioned to Mr. Cash that they
. don't need to have the County Commissioners signature block on
_ -the plat.
David Richmond questioned any possible drainage problems on
that corner because he thought the Commission had talked about
it previously. Steve Simonson explained there may be drainage
problems farther back, but the way this is laid out they only
go back a short distance. Drainage will be going to the
right-of-way and down the right-of-way. There is no problem.
.Chairman Andrews asked how they came up with the weird design
of this piece of land and Joseph Cash answered that when they
.gave him the metes and bounds, that's how it came out. _
-Tony Moreno moved to approve-the preliminary plat for Miller _
Bros.. Partnership No. 3 Subdivision contingent on showing the
contour lines, correcting the flood map to read 1992 instead of
1977, and deleting the County Commissioners signature block.
Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous
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in favor.
#7 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Approval of Street
Names for Ashley Place Subdivision
Rayco submitted 24 street names for approval as follows:
Ashley Park Chase Field Dr. Freeport Dr. Smokey Creek
Ashley Oak Dr. Dusty Crossing Inglewood Dr. Twinpoint Crk.
Boxer Pass Dr. Emerald Point Newrock Crk. Twocourts Way
Baldwin Park Emerson Pass Prichard Place Victoria Point
Bridgemont P1. Fallen Stone Rosewell Place Wayword Pass
Camaron Woods Fresno Place Samantha Dr. Windway Crk.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the street .names submitted by
Rayco for Ashley Place Subdivision. Keith Van Dine seconded
the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
#8 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Preliminary Plat
Approval - Ashley Place Subdivision, Unit l
(PC #219-94)
Don McCrary was at the meeting to represent this request.
Chairman Andrews asked for Staff input. Steve Simonson
informed the Commission the labeling of the common areas is
unclear on the plat, there is no vicinity map, and the building
setback line doesn't show any utility easements. Don McCrary
remarked they are probably not going to show the utility
easements because it hasn't been finally decided yet whether or
not .they will locate the utilities in the Parkway between the
property line and the curb. Mr. Simonson advised Mr. McCrary
that will have to be addressed before the final plat is
approved.
. Mr. Simonson advised they need to show the 50' building
_ - s-etback on Schertz Parkway, and whatever they're going to do
for parkland has to be decided before the final plat is
approved.
Chairman Andrews commented on the lots backing up to Schertz
Parkway. saying they are supposed to be a depth of 140'. Don
McCrary stated it's 130' because 10' of that 140' goes into the
common area.
David Richmond mentioned they need a homeowners' association
statement on the plat. Steve Simonson declared it will be on
the final plat.
Don McCrary told the Commission that as far as -the mixed sizes
of_ the lots., the percentage of 55' wide lots comes out to just
under 29$. Tony Moreno emphasized that is beneficial not only
to the developer, but also to those driving through the
subdivision.
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Steve Simonson referred the Commission to the top left of the
plat to observe the drainage right-of-ways and the variable
drainage easement and noted they will see how steep that is.
This is going to be a drainage consideration. What you will
see here is going into the natural drain where it's going onto
the other property which they do not own. If it's handled
properly, it will work fine. They are not pushing all the
drainage from this subdivision into that little area, this is
just so you can just see how much it drains dawn.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the preliminary plat for Ashley
Place Subdivision, Unit 1 contingent on them clearly labeling
the common areas, providing a vicinity map, showing the 50'
building setback on Schertz Parkway, showing utility easements,
if applicable, including a homeowner's association statement,
and addressing the parkland requirement. David Richmond
seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
#9 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Approval of
Additional Street Names for Greenshire
Subdivision
MBC Engineers had submitted the following 5 additional street
names for Greenshire Subdivision:
Birchwood Circle Oak Forest Dr.
Black Oak Dr. Valencia Ln.
Candleberry Dr.
Oak Forest is the name of a subdivision in Schertz, so the
Commission asked that Oak Forest Dr. be eliminated as a street
name to avoid confusion.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the additional street names
submitted by MBC Engineers for Greenshire Subdivision with the
. _ exception of Oak Forest Dr. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion
-which carried with a unanimous vote.
#10 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Approval-
Greenshire Subdivision, Unit 3 (PC #210-94)
Sam Bledsoe was at the meeting to represent this request.
Chairman Andrews asked for Staff update. .Steve Simonson
reported the parkland requirement hasn't been resolved yet.
Tony Moreno inquired if all the rest of Greenshire has to be
-approved before that issue can be settled and so Steve Simonson
asked if the homeowners association is up and running. Sam _
Bledsoe replied it has ~ been organized.. David Richmond
indicated that none of the current-residents of Greenshire Oaks
know anything about it..
Steve Simonson said it was his understanding there are 30 acres
of green space the current residents don't want_desi,gnated as a
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park, they want to keep it natural for jogging trails, etc. A
formal letter and/or drawing needs to be submitted addressing
.the parkland requirement.
Tony Moreno wondered if all the current residents have to
belong to the homeowners association to make it valid.
Chairman Andrews answered no they don't have to belong, but it
would be to their benefit if they did.
Chairman Andrews suggested somebody spearhead a committee and
perhaps form a mini-group to investigate the status of the
homeowners association. David Richmond strongly disagreed
saying the new developer owes it to the current residents of
Greenshire Oaks to inform them of any progress so they don't
have to hunt him down. Mr. Richmond commented he knows
several current residents who say they won't join, but he feels
they are not knowledgeable about all their options.
Chairman Andrews asked if the declarations and covenants for
the homeowners association have been recorded and Sam Bledsoe
replied they have not. Tony Moreno remarked that maybe
something legal needs to be drawn up about whether or not the
current residents can use the green space if they choose not to
join the homeowners association.
Keith Van Dine inquired what happens if they end up with two
homeowners associations, but Chairman Andrews commented he sees
no reason why the current residents of Greenshire Oaks would
want to form their own. Mr. Van Dine then asked if the
current residents have one now. David Richmond answered yes
they do, sort of, but it was never conveyed by Mark Vaughan
because there was some stipulation in the deed restrictions
about 75$ of the property having to be developed first.
Councilman Ken Greenwald suggested Mr. Richmond take a look at
his deed. Mr. Van Dine agreed, saying the matter needs to be
. cleared up.
Steve Simonson told the Commission that MBC has done everything
we've required except for the parkland. David Richmond asked
if we're talking about the current floodplain or a new green
area and Steve Simonson replied the current floodplain. Mr.
Simonson stated we can accept a certain amount of floodplain as
parkland, but he understood the current residents didn't want a
park.
Sam Bledsoe commented it will take some time to get this
together because he doesn't know the metes and bounds 'of the
other side -of the green area. Chairman Andrews stressed we
need- to have something in writing in case they. build and then
stop and decide to sell the other part of the -land. Steve
Simonson suggested doing one side of it-right now. Submit a
letter of intent and a request for reduction in parkland fees.
Mr. Simonson pointed out we have a lot of development in
progress and need to establish green belts as we go along.
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David Richmond asked Sam Bledsoe if they still intend to build
a wall on their side of Woodland Oaks Drive-and Mr. Bledsoe
replied yes they do. Mr. Richmond then mentioned the
possibility of some clear dividing wall to the back of the
development which would be on the Cibolo line and asked Steve
Simonson if he recalls that discussion. Mr. Simonson did not
remember anything being mentioned about that.
Chairman Andrews complimented Sam Bledsoe on MBC's effort in
moving some of the streets around to save the trees.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the final plat for Greenshire
Subdivision, Unit 3 contingent on the certification and
documentation of the homeowners association and contingent on
addressing the parkland requirement. David Richmond seconded
'the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
#11 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Amending of August
9, 1994 Minutes to Officially Record the Size
of the Texaco Monument Sign
Steve Simonson informed the Commission the recording of the
August 9th meeting had been checked, but there was no mention
'of the size of the Texaco monument sign. They will amend the
minutes to include the statement that the Texaco monument sign
shall be no higher that 10' from ground level.
Keith. Van Dine moved to approve the amending of the minutes of
the August 9, 1994 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting to
officially include the statement that the Texaco monument sign
shall be no higher than 10' from ground level. Tony Moreno
seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor.
#12 GENERAL DISCUSSION
. David Richmond:
Asked Steve Simonson if he's heard anything from HEB and Mr.
Simonson replied he had not. Mr. Richmond expressed a little
concern because HEB is now into their 1995 building year.
Their new fiscal year begins September 1st. It would be nice
to get a letter saying whether or not we are in the building
plans for 1995. Steve Simonson said he would call the
representative from HEB.
Keith Van Dine:
Reported that in the Schirmerville area across from Billy _
Mitchell's, they're putting a mobile home :in behind an existing
mobile home. Do they have-a permit? Steve Simonson said he.
would check it out.
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Mr. Simonson informed Mr. Van Dine that the bids for the road
repairs will go before City Council tomorrow night and it looks
good.
Councilman Greenwald:
(a) Announced that everyone is invited to a meeting on
September 26th at the Live Oak Civic Center where the results
of the economic development survey will be presented.
(b) Stated he had attended a Canyon Regional Water Authority
meeting last night and they approved next year's budget. The
water plant is up and running. Bexar Metro is in the process
of buying 4,000 acre feet of Canyon Lake water and there are
only 7,000 acre feet available for sale. City Council, in the
budget, is looking at buying 1,000 acre feet. That would give
the City several more options for a water source.
(c) Related City Council is discussing setting up a briefing on
water rites and would like to get the Commissioners involved.
Keith Van Dine asked Mr. Greenwald. if City Council had ever
given any thought to casino gambling in the City. Mr.
Greenwald answered they had talked about it. They're waiting
for legislation to pass and also it takes money for an impact
study.
Steve Simonson:
(a) Told the Commission that sooner or later the City will have
to deal with the issue of drainage from E. Live Oak Rd. to FM
78. There will no doubt be a mandate to establish a drainage
and capturing treatment area.
(b) Advised that later in the year he would like to get the
Commission together with some of the engineers and developers
end discuss alternatives to the type of development they could
have in Schertz.
Chairman Andrews:
(a} Noted that every year people go dove hunting. behind the old
Gutierrez landfill. At the very back of the road that goes
behind it, by the drainage easement, there's a farmer who has
some land with yellow oozing up from it. Steve Simonson said
he would check into it.
(b) Reported that Merwin Willman had knee surgery this morning.
He will call- him tomorrow to check on his- progress. He's.. -
supposed to be home from the hospital by Thursday night.
(c) Related he had spoken with George. Vick and Mr. Vick is
going to school right now on Tuesday evenings for the Knights
of Columbus. He may have to resign.
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#13 ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Andrews adjourned the meeting at 8:15 p.m.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is September 27, 1994.
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