PZ 4-27-2016VLANNING AND ZONING
April 27, 2016
A Regular Meeting was held by the Planning and Zoning Commission on April 27, 2016 at the
Municipal Complex, Council Chambers, 1400 Schertz Parkway Building #4, Schertz, Texas.
PLANNING & ZONING COMIMIISSION
David Richmond, Chairman
Ernie Evans, Vice - Chairman
Ken Greenwald
Bert Crawford, Jr.
Richard Braud
Michael Dahle
Christian Glombik
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT
1. CALL TO ORDER
CITY STAFF,
Brian James, Executive Director Development
Lesa Wood, Director Planning and Community
Development
Bryce Cox, Senior Planner
Channary Gould, Planner
Emily Grobe, Planner
Larry Busch, Storm Water Manager
Daniel Santee, City Attorney
OTHERS PRESENT
Maggie Tittenington / 1730 Schertz Pkwy / Agenda
Item 5A
Tyler Haile / 6308 FM 3009 / Agenda Item SA
Mr. Richmond called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M.
2. HEARING OF RESIDENTS
® No citizens comments.
3. CONSENT AGENDA
Mr. Greenwald requests to hear, the consent agenda item for a discussion.
A. PC2016 -021
Consider and act upon a request for approval of a final plat and vacation of a 16' sanitary sewer
easement for the Misty Woods Subdivision consisting of 12.14 acres, located on Schertz
Parkway approximately 770 feet north of Live Oak Road.
Channary Gould, Planner, presented the final plat request. She explained the history of the
preliminary plat and that this same final plat was approved previously on September 12, 2012
and that the plat was revised and administratively approved on May 1, 2013 and had expired on
May 1, 2015. She also noted that the plat document presented tonight is identical to the plat that
was previously administratively approved.
The commissioners had a discussion regarding the sewer / drainage easements, how they are
identified / titled, the exact location of the easements, and how it is identified on the plat exhibit
City staff responded to the questions and concerns from the Commission.
Mr. Cox identifies where the easements are located and confirms that all easements have been
reviewed and approved by the City Engineer and are identical to the revised, approved final plat
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that was approved and expired. Mr. Cox describes that the way the exhibit is presented including
how the vacate easement is shown is typical practice. Mr. Cox clarifies that all items have been
constructed and have been previously approved.
Mr. Dahle moved to approve this item. Mr. Crawford seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous.
Motion carried.
4. PUBLIC HEARING:
A. ZC2016 -004
Hold a public hearing, consider and make a recommendation on a request to zone
approximately 4.138 acres of land to Public Use District (PUB). The property is more
specifically described as a portion of the William Bracken Survey No. 74, Abstract No.
43, Bexar County No. 5056, and the W.S. Bennett Survey No. 75, Abstract No. 61, Bexar
County No. 5057, located all in Bexar County; located approximately 3,000 feet east of
the intersection of FM 1518 and Ray Corbett Drive.
Lesa Wood, Director, presented the proposed rezoning request. She explained that the City currently
owns the property and that it is located in the ETJ, currently in the process of annexation, the proposed
zoning change is to make the property zoned Public Use, which can be used by the City, State, Federal
use. Six (6) Public Hearing Notices were mailed to surrounding property owners. At the time of the
meeting no responses had been received. The public hearing notice for City Council has also been
published, the zoning request will run concurrently with the annexation ordinance that will be heard
at the May 3, 2016 City Council meeting. The Zone Change has been reviewed with the
Comprehensive Plan and the Future Land Use Map, which shows this area as being zoned mixed use
neighborhood district. The property is currently designated for an elevated storage tank, which would
add additional capacity for the development in the area. Randolph Air Force Base has reviewed the
proposed elevated storage tank and has no objections to the location proposed. Staff recommends
approval of the rezone request.
Mr. Richmond opens the public hearing at 6:20 pm.
James Herrera- 12020 Schafer Road
Mr. Herrera, adjacent property owner, asked about the 200 ft buffer and it entails.
Mr. Evans clarifies that the 200 ft buffer is just a legal obligation that the City notifies that all property
owners located within 200 ft of the subject property that an item is being discussed.
Ernest Marshal: 12198 Schafer Road
Mr. Marshal questions the 200 ft buffer and the impact it will have on his property.Mr. Marshal also
questions how large the proposed water storage tank will be.
Mr. Evans clarifies that the 200ft buffer is just to mail out notices, that there is a potential rezone for
an adjacent property. Mr. Evans clarifies that the buffer does not make an impact on anyone else's
Mr. Richmond closes the public hearing at 6 :24pm.
Ms. Wood, addressing resident questions, clarifies that by state law we are required to notify all
property owners within a 200ft notice of the zoning case. Ms. Wood also indicated that she confirmed
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with the Engineering Department that the proposed tank is to hold 1.5 million gallons and is an
elevated storage tank.
The commissioners had a discussion regarding the elevation of the tank, the capacity of the tank in
relation to existing City storage tanks, the logistics of how a ground storage tank is placed on the
ground, and if the property will be platted in the future.
Ms. Wood requests for Larry Busch of the Engineering department to come forward and answers
some of the more specific questions on the tank, as she is not as familiar since this is just for the
zoning of the property. Mr. Busch clarifies that they do not know the exact elevation as it is very
preliminary. However, they are trying to match the elevation of the Live Oak storage tank. However,
this proposed storage tank might be a little taller. There will also be a 3 million gallon ground storage
tank with a pump station in the future. Mr. Busch clarifies that the ground storage tank at Live Oak
is a 7.5 Million Gallon and the elevated storage tank at Live Oak is 1.5 Million Gallon Tank. Mr.
Busch clarifies that the ground storage tanks typically do not go beneath the ground. It sits on top of
the ground and will be roughly as tall as the ones on East Live Oak Road. Ms. Wood clarifies that the
property will be platted in the future.
Mr. Greenwald moved to make a recommendation to City Council for ZC2016 -004. Mr. Crawford
seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous, motion carried
WORKSHOP / DISCUSSION:
A. Discussion and public hearing related to Unified Development Code, Article 11, Signs.
Brian James, Executive Director gave a presentation on Unified Development Code, Article 11,
Signs. Mr. James provided the following discussion points:
• If you have to read the sign to categorize it, that is a problem going forward. Current code
can get confusing at -times on what the code says you can and cannot do
• Wall Signs are problematic, and how much signage is truly what the City would like to see.
We generally categorize our signs into what type of street the property is on. The faster the
traffic, the larger the sign that is allowed.
• Current code allows one sign per wall, which makes some developers try to connect more
signs together which we view as only one sign. Proposing to change to not just one sign per
wall but really how much signage or how many square feet of signs are we going to allow
per side.
• Currently, properties can have one sign per wall with a max of three signs for the whole
building / only three sides are allowed to have signs. Considering a change that would build
in more flexibility. Would not necessarily limit the number of signs or the number of walls
but rather limit the maximum amount of sign on the building overall and the maximum
amount of signage on any one side.
• Looking to increasing the amount of signage but provide more flexibility to the property
owner on how to use it.
® The 1511 setback from the property line, has continually been an issue. Staff is looking at the
site distance and might decrease to l Oft from the property line.
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• Subdivision entrance signs, the height generally works, however the one sign for the entrance
can be problematic when developers want to mirror signs on the end of the buffer rather than
in the middle of the entrance.
• Currently do not allow bandit signs, this is not something that is going to change. However,
for larger subdivisions/ master PDDs they face a challenge of the different builders in the
various phases and to find the second or third phase starts. They would like to be able to
include some signs to help direct to the later phases to allow signs that show where and who
the builders are, however only in the subdivision itself. Want to come up with attractive and
effective signage for both the developers and the residents.
® Real Estate signs and development signs are also a concern in regards to the time limits that
are listed on when they can be displayed. This is hard for City staff to regulate. Also the
dimensions between the real estate signs and development signs are different and this is
typically problematic. This goes back to, if you have to read the sign to know it is a real
estate sign, then this needs to be addressed.
Another item that will be addressed is the temporary sign and how long the current code
allows them to be left out. Current code allows for an extended period of time, staff thinks
that this could be shorter and still get the same appeal.
Mr. Richmond opens the public hearing at 6:57pm
Tyler Haile — 6308 FM 3009 — Owner of the Chick -fil -A on 3009
® Chick -fil -A has five signs and they recently did a study of where customers were coming
from. Specifically, with his location he finds it difficult to explain where his restaurant
is at, and he feels that more signs would definitely be beneficial. As a Schertz resident
he does not want tons of signs everywhere but more flexibility for the property owner
would really make a huge difference.
Maggie Titteninjton —1730 Schertz Parkway
® Agrees with what Brian explained in his presentation and also understands Chick- fil -A's
concerns. Fully supports Brian's proposal and thinks that the proposed changes would
really benefit the whole look of the community:
Mr. Richmond closed the Public Hearing at 7:03pm
The commissioners had a discussion and asked questions in regards to the following: digitized signs
and the standards around them, 180 day limit on temporary signs, development signs in subdivisions,
max square foot per business, window signs. Additionally, the Commission requests that with the
next presentation to have the track changes to review the proposed with the existing and to provide
some visual examples of what the current ordinance allows.
Mr. James provided additional information to the commissioners to clarify the questions presented.
Listing that there is no proposed chance to the digitized signs. He nkn exnln;nc the c1P+P,- m;,,a +;,,r --
if a sign is actually temporary. Mr. James also identifies that development signs are designed so that
once the development is complete that these would be removed. Mt. James describes the use of
window signs. Mr. James also explains that the current code is very black and white and at the time
it was written it made sense. However, the expectation going forward is that the expectations will
go up and the new codes will build in flexibility so staff can make more discretion
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B. Discussion and public hearing related to tree mitigation and preservation.
Brian James, Executive Director, gave a presentation on tree mitigation and tree preservation. Mr.
James provided the following discussion points:
® The ordinance currently reads as you have to mitigate based on the trees that are being
removed. This usually works well except for the tracts of land that have not been farmed in
many years that are currently covered with trees.
s City Council has an idea that a certain point there is an excessive amount of mitigation fees
for some of the properties. Recently the Parks Department is using the fees to help the
growth of existing park trees and in the right of way.
Staff would recommend that there be a cap of how much the property owner would have to
pay for some of the more wooded sites. Staff is requesting for P &Zs opinion on the instances
where there is a more wooded site, should there be a cap on the fees.
Mr. Richmond opened the public hearing at 7:40 pm.
Robert Brockman: 1000 Elbel Road
Believes that there has not been a good representation of tree mitigation in action.
References the trees at the Walgreens that died and were never replaced and also
mentions that originally the tree mitigation funds were to be used for planting more trees,
however the Parks Board uses the funds for other items than just planting trees.
Mr. Richmond closed the public hearing at 7:41 pm
The commissioners had a discussion that included the following questions and concerns: how are
current tree mitigation fees being used, the original concept and reasoning behind tree mitigation,
loss of business due to high tree mitigation due, surrounding cities and their tree mitigation, pros and
cons of changing the ordinance both for the developer and the City.
Mr. James provided additional information to the commissioners to clarify the questions presented.
Mr. James provided the following answer items, provided clarification on how the tree mitigation
fees are and can be used to benefit the City in accordance with what the ordinance allows. The
mitigation fee sometimes makes the developer more thoughtful, but in more cases it just causes
agreements between the developer and the seller.
Mr. Cox's noted that staff is constantly trying to work through with the developers on how can the
trees be saved.
Mr. James's also provides that there is a need for an ordinance that helps keep the canopy in the City,
that if they cannot help with keeping the canopy then they should have to help pay for it, need an
ordinance that makes people conscious of their placement. In his mind, if we have a way to spend it
or not, that is beside the point, it is more of are the fees too high. We have to be more selective to
ensure that 20 or 40 years from now they properties that we have planted trees will be able to be up
Ms. Woods provides that the City has lost out on any developments because of tree mitigation=
the southeast corner of Savannah and Schertz Pkwy was platted many years ago. There have been
many pre development meetings on this lot but due to the high density of trees they have all decided
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to develop elsewhere due to the size of the building would have to be so small it would not be
economic.
Mr. James's provides that all cities are different in the ordinance layout. Some cities say it is what it
is and if the sites don't develop then they don't develop. There is a need for the tree mitigation
ordinance, the main focus of this discussion is really the heavily wooded areas and the developer
that asks, "What could we have done better" and we can't give them an answer yet they still have to
pay the very large fees.
6. REQUESTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Requests by Commissioners to place items on a future Planning and Zoning Agenda.
® None.
B. Announcements by Commissioners.
• Mr. Dahle meeting update, will be bringing a presentation on the newly adopted Strategic
Plan.
• Mr. Greenwald inquiring about how the Volunteer Fair went. Ms. Wood mentions that
there was a considerable amount of people there. Mr. Richmond clarified that there were
a few young men that stopped by the table that were interested in the Commission. Mr.
Richmond also mentioned that the presentation was very good and so was the turn out.
® Mr. Crawford asking if staff can relook at the alternates for the Commission. Mr. James
said we can put together a work station to determine what the benefit of having the
alternate would be.
C. Announcements by City Staff.
1. None.
8. ADJOURNMENT OF THE REGULAR MEETING
The meeting adjourned at /8):33 P.M.
Chairman, Planning and Zoning Commission
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