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Minutes
Thursday, March 3, 2022
5:30 PM
The Transportation Safety Advisory Commission (TSAC) convened for a meeting on
Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 5:30 PM in the Council Chambers, Building #4,
1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas 78154
TSAC Commissioners Present:
Dziewit, Richard, Chair
Cornelisse, Chuck
Heyward, Ferrando
Ragsdale, Roy
Stevens, Ronald
Sullivan, John
Wiley, Paul
TSAC Commissioners Absent:
Heasley, Tyler
Winter, Michael
Staff Present:
James, Brian, Assistant City Manager
Letbetter, Doug, Public Works Manager
Simmons, Cyndi, Administrative Assistant
Westbrook, Travis, Graduate Engineer
Williams, Suzanne, Public Works Director
Woodlee, Kathy, City Engineer
CALL TO ORDER at 5:32 PM by Chair Richard Dziewit.
ROLL CALL
HEARING OF RESIDENTS
• Amanda Martinez, ammartinezO.: ccmcnet.com. She is the property community manager for
The Crossvine. She will speak when the agenda item she is concerned with is discussed.
She made one comment at this time:
o Residents are pleased that the Yield signs have been placed in the roundabouts on
Hollering Vine.
1. Minutes: Consideration and /or action regarding the approval of the minutes of the September 2,
2021 and November 4, 2021 meetings. Motion made by Commissioner Ragsdale to approve the
September 2, 2021 and November 4, 2021 meeting minutes as written. Seconded by
Commissioner Heyward. Vote passed was unanimous.
2. Crosswalk Request: Update on the Status of the Request for a Pedestrian Crosswalk on
Savannah Drive near Willow Ranch Street. Kathy Woodlee reports that upon further
observation, measurements, and traffic counts, and this one has proved to be a challenge as it is
on the borderline as far as what's safe to install and what the best treatment would be. We've
decided to pass this along for evaluation by one of our on -call consulting firms, Kimley -Horn,
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who specializes in this area. Commissioner Heyward asked about some things the consulting
firm has done in cases like this. Kathy Woodlee responded that they may recommend that there
be no treatment because we don't want to encourage folks to cross there, they may recommend
that signage is the appropriate solution, or they may recommend some other traffic calming
measures to slow traffic. These are types of things that have been recommended in the past in
other areas and may not apply to this particular area. Other options might be to narrow lanes to
slow folks down or installing "pedestrian refuge" islands in the middle of a road to allow folks to
cross halfway. Chairman Dziewit asked what kind of time element are we looking at? Kathy
Woodlee responded that it would probably be a couple of months. We haven't executed a task
order yet, so it will be a few more weeks. They will get gather data from pedestrian traffic.
Commissioner Sullivan commented that the more he looks at this as a resident and as a parent, he
feels we should complete the sidewalk network on the other side of the road as well as slow the
traffic. Kathy Woodlee replied that we are also using this study as a learning opportunity for our
staff.
3. Four -Way Stop Request: Update on the Status of the Request for Stop Signs and/or Speed
Humps in Rhine Valley. Kathy Woodlee reports that the data collection has not occurred.
4. Traffic Studies: Update on Status of Traffic Studies.
a. Misty Woods Subdivision - Kathy Woodlee reports that she received the data
collection from the Misty Woods Subdivision and Dimrock two days ago. They had
been delayed until the construction of Elbel and Live Oak were substantially
complete so that traffic patterns would return to their normal patterns. The data has
not been reviewed and will have a recommendation if anything needs to be done next
month.
b. Dimrock — See above.
c. Woodland Oaks in Greenshire Subdivision — Traffic counts were done in three
locations and the results were somewhat curious. They will be analyzing the data
further and do not have a final result yet. May need more studies and observations.
Commissioner Cornelisse asked when this analysis might be completed. Kathy
Woodlee responded that we will likely have more to report next month. Brian James
also commented that the initial feedback we received was that we're not really over
the speed limit that we would expect except for a couple locations. Not to get too
detailed, but what happens when you compare that speed data with the axle
classification data (what type of vehicle was passing), that's where the anomaly is.
What he thinks is happening is that it's miss - counting what type of vehicles they are
and that's skewing the speed. Public Works and Engineering will be out there next
Tuesday visually doing counts and compare with the data and will have results next
month.
d. Bench Trail — Same as c.
e. Samantha Drive — Kathy Woodlee reports that the results were that the average daily
traffic was about 354 in two places, which is not high enough to meet the threshold
criteria for speed humps. However, the 85% percentile speed was about 26 mph
which is 1 mph over the threshold for speed humps. It's not a massive speeding
problem. The police department spent some time out there and there were no
significant issues observed. We are recommending no action.
5. Speed Study: Update on the Status of the Speed Study in the Fairhaven Subdivision. Kathy
Woodlee reports that the speed counts were completed and they did meet criteria for speed
humps and they were placed in January. We will schedule follow -up counts to gauge the
effectiveness of the speed humps. This study is closed out for the time being.
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6. Schertz Parkway — Ashley Park: Update on the Status of the Request for Signalization. Kathy
Woodlee reports that we are also passing this one to the consulting firm. Chairman Dziewit
commented that he lives in that area and has observed that the left side coming around towards
Schertz Parkway has a curvature and you cannot see traffic approaching. From the other
direction of Ashley, you can see. Maybe they can take a look at that issue as well as far as
looking at the amount of traffic there. It isn't that excessive, but in that direction — especially at
school time when there are a lot of kids running around there and a lot of cars — would be
something to look at. Commissioner Sullivan commented that this is a scary intersection and he
worries a lot about this, especially for pedestrians and kids crossing. He agrees that this a good
learning experience to look at the safety for pedestrians crossing there. Kathy Woodlee
responded that there is also a cost factor and when we look at placing speed humps costing
maybe $10,000, a sign costing a couple of hundred, but a traffic signal hundreds of thousands of
dollars. Commissioner Sullivan agrees but that you can't put a price on life and wants to make it
safe.
7. Traffic Issues on Fairlawn: Recommendation for establishment of school speed zone and no
parking zones on Fairlawn near the School of Science and Technology. Kathy Woodlee reports
that we discussed the issues that were generated by the new School of Science and Technology at
the intersection of Fairlawn and I35 access road. Things were congested during the first weeks
of school and the school made some operational changes and cut down drastically on the
problems; however, did not eliminate the problems. She would like to recommend that the
Commission recommends to Council establishing a school zone which would lower the speed
limit to 20 mph along Fairlawn and raise awareness with the flashing school zone signs and also
establish that section as a no parking zone so folks don't park along the roundabout.
Brian James commented that he and Sergeant Arriaga met with the school to make sure they
were okay with things. The school's perspective is there isn't a need for their parents to park on
the street, that they have adequate parking to cover their normal events. He would not be
surprised when you have the parent/teacher night to start the school year, just like every other
school in the city, you're going to have people parking all over the place; but the school's
perspective was that there isn't a need for parents to park there. What they felt parents were
doing is they were trying to avoid getting in the normal que and picking up their kid the way they
should. They don't anticipate parents coming into the neighborhood to park. Staff has received
the site plan for an expansion and we think that with the additional parking to be shared between
the two facilities that will help. The school has requested the no parking zone. Commissioner
Sullivan has heard one issue is that people are lining up to get out of Riata onto 35 and pulling to
the right and then people doing U -turns on the frontage road coming back into the school. Brian
James will have someone monitor the area to see if that is occurring a lot, it will need to be
addressed.
Commissioner Heyward commented that is where the I35 over is going and they are clearing the
right side of the frontage road, so looking to the future, is what we're planning for going to
mitigate the future as well or are we just doing a short-term fix. Brian James commented that
because of the changes we have with TxDOT and roads getting improved and with new
commercial and residential development, from a staff perspective, it's an evolving situation and
our approach to it is that let's deal with the problem we have today and keep an eye on it, but it
would not surprise him that once I35 that we'll be back with a totally different problem.
Discussion regarding cost factors for putting a system in place and then having to redo in a
couple of years. Brian James reports that the main issue is not parking — it is for procedures for
picking up and dropping off. A couple of times a year or for a big event there will be a parking
problem. To what degree do we make them add a lot of parking just to be used twice per year.
The other consideration is that the charter schools don't offer the same level of service in terms
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of activities that the public schools do, so there's no football fields or other areas where a lot of
parents will be coming. The biggest concern that he has is that there will be multiple lanes for
the second phase of the school bringing a concern for stacking of vehicles.
Chairman Dziewit asked for a motion to establish a school speed zone and no parking zone.
Motion made by Commissioner Sullivan to establish a school speed zone and no parking zone
from frontage road to the rear of the residential lots on both sides of Fairlawn in front of the
school. Seconded by Commissioner Stevens. Vote passed was unanimous.
8. Crossvine Subdivision: Update on issues raised by HOA representative at the November 4,
2021, meeting.
• Kathy Woodlee reports that there had been a complaint of long -term (greater than 15
minutes) parking blocking mail kiosks. Staff went and did not observe any problematic
behavior so we just request that we get additional photographs or specific calls when it is a
problem to see if we need to go back and look at it.
• The yield signs were requested and they were installed by Public Works in fairly short order.
There were some sight concerns at Canopy Bend exiting to Lower Seguin Road and on this
one we looked at this before and looked at it again. We also had some feedback from folks
about feeling there are some unsafe conditions on Lower Seguin Road at that location.
We're broadening the study and we're looking at the safety of Lower Seguin Road and that
intersection in particular. We're evaluating the geometry of the road with the S -curve and
the speed limit is 50 mph coming from Converse and slows down to 30 mph but may not be
soon enough. Folks continue to carry their speed through there. We did not find that there is
a true problem with sight distance if folks are going the appropriate speed on Lower Seguin
Road. The faster the speed, the longer the sight distance needs to be.
• There was also a concern of parents parking and standing on the street within Crossvine
waiting to pick -up students at Founders. PD also went out and didn't see any problematic
issues. They did see a traffic que on 1518 at one point but had discussions with the school
who changed some of their operating procedures and that problem seems to have resolved
from what we've been able to observe.
• Resident Amanda Martinez spoke and indicated that is the update she needed and will take
the information back to the community. As far as the short-term or long -term parking, she
indicates that in her experience there's not a problem during the day, only in the evening.
She asked if we recommend that homeowners contact the city or take pictures and submit
them to her and she forward them to the city? She'd like to know what steps to take to report
to the homeowners. She thanked them for installing the yield signs.
9. Chapter 86 Proposed Amendments: Update on Preparation to Present to City Council. Kathy
Woodlee reports that this one is in a holding pattern. We started to update and confirm the
traffic device list that was put together and a couple of additional subdivisions accepted and we
want to make sure that everything is order. We have a contract that should get started very soon
to run our PCI study, which is the pavement condition index where we have a firm that comes
out and drives all the city streets and catalogues all the defects in the roads so we can target
which ones to expend funds on for maintenance. That study is also going to digitally pick up all
the signs. We're going to wait and make sure that we have a solid confirmed list. It is ready to
go, just waiting on the final list of traffic control devices.
10. Summary of New Requests to Staff:
a. Request for Crosswalk on Homestead Boulevard in Vicinity of Amenity Center. Kathy
Woodlee reports that from the access road to the City of Cibolo, there are no stop signs.
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There's an amenity center and trails throughout the subdivision and there's difficulty in
crossing the road.
b. Request for investigation into truck traffic on Schertz Parkway. Kathy Woodlee reports that
this request came in recently and hasn't been looked at yet. Chairman Dziewit commented
that the truck traffic appears to be from the AT&T service being done. it does have an affect
on traffic and an affect on site distance with the trucks parking on the street.
11. Staff Comments:
a. Commissioner Sullivan commented in his neighborhood there have been complaints on the
rock trucks cutting down Belmont Parkway and going down Old Wiederstein and then Dean
Road to Cibolo working back there in the several new housing developments. Are they
allowed on Belmont Parkway? Should they be going that route? This has been happening in
the last several weeks. He's told residents to contact the city. Kathy Woodlee remarked that
Belmont is not an acceptable route because they could take 1103.
b. Commissioner Heyward commented that the lighting from Old Wiederstein into Belmont is
not adequate. Would like to see some reflectors and additional lighting.
12. Future Agenda Items Requests/TSAC Pending Items List:
a. Commissioner Heyward asked if there's a place on our website to give feedback to residents.
Kathy Woodlee advised we can add links on the website.
13. Adjournment: Meeting adjourned at 6:32 PM.
Attest:
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Ric ziewit, Chairperson
C ' Simmons, Recording Secretary
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