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PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in regular
session on Tuesday, March 26, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. in the Municipal
Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas.
Those present were as follows:
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
CITY STAFF
PIA JARMAN, CHAIRWOMAN
DAVID RICHMOND, VICE-CHAIRMAN
MERWIN WILLMAN, SECRETARY
TONY MORENO
KEITH VAN DINE
ERNIE EVANS
GARY WALLACE
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN
STEVE SIMONSON,
ASST. CITY MANAGER
DENISE GRANGER,
PLANNING SECRETARY
MEMBERS ABSENT
OTHERS PRESENT
Dan Kossl, Prestige
Homes
Don & Diane McCrary
McCrary & Assoc.
T.J. Cantwell, Prestige
Homes
Norman Schuetz, Schuetz
Subdivision
C.V. Uranga, The Village
John Sheridan, DSI
Randy Johnston, Alamo
Engineers
Floyd G. Dicus, 142
Clear Oak
Walter Vestal, Vetal
Steel
Ron Shcrandt, Windy
Meadows M.H.P.
James Leonard,
Buffington Homes
Patrick Lackey, Windy
Meadows M.H.P.
David Kasper, Windy
Meadows M.H.P.
Jim Bagley, Windy
Meadows M.H.P.
Cindy Grace, Windy
Meadows M.H.P.
Tim Green, Windy
Meadows M.H.P.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairwoman Pia Jarman called the March 26, 1996 regular meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
12 APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Public Hearing and Regular Session March 12, 1996.
Merwin Willman moved to approve the March 12, 1996 Public Hearing
and Regular Session minutes. Ernie Evans seconded the motion which
carried with a unanimous vote.
13 STATUS OF FINAL PLATS:
Chairwoman Pia Jarman stated the final plat signed for March;
Ashley Place Unit 2.
14 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS:
There were none.
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CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request
Sheridan DIS Distributing for
Approval. (PC #261-96)
from
Site
John
Plan
Steve Simonson stated this location is next to the building
currently under construction, ITM. The notes on the two pages are
clearly marked and they meet all the site plan ordinances. There
is a proposed three dimensional drawing that was provided and it
looks very nice. This is a great addition to the area.
Pia Jarman commented on the dumpster being in the back and screened
area and also the landscaping being very impressive.
Merwin Willman questioned the monument sign being four to five feet
in height. Steve Simonson agreed that the sign is approximately
that height.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the site plan submitted
Sheridan DSI Distributing. Merwin Willman seconded the
which carried with a unanimous vote.
by John
motion
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CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION:
Vestal, Vestal Steel for
(PC #262-96)
Request from Walter
Site Plan Approval.
Steve Simonson stated this is at the entrance of the cul-de-sac on
the left hand side on Pipe Stone which is next to Ecko
Construction.
Pia Jarman clarified that all signage would be on the building with
no free standing sign. Steve Simonson stated that was correct.
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Merwin Willman moved to approve the site plan submitted by
Vestal, Vestal Steel. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion
carried with a unanimous vote.
Walter
which
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CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request
Uranga Properties for the Village.
from C. V.
(PC #259-96)
A. Final Plat
B. Site Plan
A. Final Plat:
Steve Simonson stated the corrections that were requested by the
Commission are now corrected. The flood plain information and the
adjacent land owners are identified also the 25' building set back.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the final plat submitted
Uranga, Uranga Properties for The Village. Gary Wallace
the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
by C.V.
seconded
B. Site Plan:
Steve Simonson stated this is the Department of Human Services
Building. This particular site plan was taken off the construction
plans with the addition of items 10 - 13 which were stated by Mr.
Uranga. The only item that is missing is the dimensions of the
building. The building will be approximately 65 X 65 feet, about
4,000 square feet. The sign and lighting will be controlled by the
Federal Government regulations.
Tony Moreno asked if the site plan was going to be approved
contingent upon the changes on items 10 - 13?
Steve Simonson stated items 10 - 13 were missing and added to the
site plan. If the Commission accepts the site plan, the Commission
can request for the dimensions to be on, so a correct site plan
will be on file. The landscaping is very limited.
Merwin Willman
a correction
Uranga stated
of landscaping
commented he is concerned about the landscaping with
to the gas company being ENTEX and not CPS. Mr.
that the Federal Government will tell them what type
they will have to have.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the site
Uranga, Uranga Properties for The
inclusion of the building dimensions.
motion which carried as follows:
plan request from C. V.
Village, contingent upon
Keith Van Dine seconded the
AYES: Pia Jarman, David Richmond, Gary Wallace, Keith Van Dine,
Tony Moreno.
NAYS: Merwin Willman.
ABSTENTION: Ernie Evans.
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CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Craig
Hollmig, Schuetz Subdivision: Preliminary Plat
(PC # 262-96)
Steve Simonson stated this property is in the City's ETJ. There
are several people that will be signing off on this plat; City,
County, with several notes that will also be on. The second sheet
has been submitted as some of the lots have been sold but Mr.
Schuetz wants to sell the remaining lots. This is on Bunker Road
with lots and names already on them. There are some lots that are
unusable and other lots that will have quite a lot of space. This
is not in the 100 year flood plain. This is zoned A-5. This is
actually a shot of the ground to pinpoint where water could go with
additional fill to make the lots useable. The engineers have been
working together on this to show how the water will go. Everything
will be tied into a power pole with a nail in a power pole which
will be the tie points.
Mr. Schuetz stated when they made the dam in 1981, they said they
could lower the flood plain about four feet but the County has
never done this. The dam is the largest in Comal County. It is
one half mile long and ninety feet tall on the Comal Creek through
the subdivision.
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Ernie Evans questioned if the FEMA site is correct. Steve Simonson
stated this not being one of the City of Schertz's FEMA map that,
yes, this is correct from the information that was given to several
phone calls questioning this.
Steve Simonson stated on the agenda this item was requested as a
preliminary. If there are no corrections, if the Commission is in
agreement, could this request be the preliminary and final?
Tony Moreno moved to approve the preliminary and final plat of the
Schuetz Subdivision submitted by Craig Hollmig. Merwin Willman
seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
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CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from
McCrary, McCrary & Associates Final Plat
Creek Subdivision Unit 1. (PC #260-96)
Don
Berry
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Steve Simonson stated per the discussion at the last meeting and
upon the Commissions request items 6, 7, and 8 have been added to
the notes. On item 8 there is an agreement per our engineer and
the developers' engineer on how this should be listed as an
easement as this deals with private streets. Although the UDC is
not finalized all the requirements in the UDC on gated communities
is being followed. The three items constitute the agreement
between the HOA and the City for maintenance in case of failure of
the HOA; a budget that is approved at time of the final plat; and
a copy of the HOA. At this time we have a preliminary copy for the
Berry Creek Gated Community. As this is the first one we are very
happy with the information that has been submitted by Denton
Communities in following the UDC. All the information that is
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Mewin Willman commented he is in agreement with everything that
Steve Simonson has mentioned but Merwin is still concerned if we
are going to follow everything that is in the UDC for gated
communities then the final plat for Berry Creek should not be
approved until all documents that are required have been approved
by the City attorney. If the Commission feels that we are far
enough along to approve the final plat, this is fine, but Merwin
does not feel this should be finalized.
Tony Moreno commented that the developer seems to be working
the City and the staff very closely on this matter; that
documents will be correct before recordation.
with
all
Merwin Willman mentioned in the UDC it states all documents will be
finalized before final approval of the plat. This will be setting
the precedent being this is the very first one.
Pia Jarman commented that some time ago the Commission was in
agreement on what would be on the final plat before approval.
Steve Simonson stated the UDC is not an official document or a
legal document at this time. The intent of what the Commission
requested is what the developers are trying to follow with everyone
working together on this.
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Don McCrary commented that in the current ordinance they do meet
the requirements. Prestige and Denton Homes have been more than
willing to work with the City. It will be another four or five
months before this plat is ready to be recorded. If there was a
question by the City, the City would have the authority to not
record this subdivision. It would be appreciated if this could be
finalized so that construction can begin as it does meet all other
requirements.
Merwin Willman commented that some time ago he had suggested that
some information be put into the ordinance on gated communities as
everyone was concerned with gated communities. Because this is not
in the current ordinance, Merwin is concerned that this not being a
legal document something could happen and the developer would not
have to comply.
Steve Simonson commented that his feeling from the Commission was
that things were far enough along to bring this before the
Commission for approval.
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David Richmond stated he is in agreement with Merwin completely.
But David also feels this would be difficult to turn down based on
a document that is not a legal document. The developer at this
time does not have to meet any ordinances as we do not have any
ordinances on secured communities that they have to follow. Until
there is approval of the UDC this has to be treated just as it is.
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The Commission is in a position to rely on the good faith of
developers that approach us and that are known to us, worked
with us in the past. As Steve has mentioned, the developer
worked very well with the City and City staff to adhere to
sense of the Commission which is expressed in the draft of the
the
well
has
the
UDC.
Dan Kossl thanked Mr. Simonson for the very kind words. Dan Kossl
stated the commitment to try and comply with the future UDC is what
there are trying to do. In the preliminary plat hearing it was
stated by Denton Homes that they have fifteen gated communities
that are currently worked on. All the information that is in the
future UDC is very well thought out and Denton Homes is very close
in following these documents.
Keith Van Dine stated that Steve mentioned that these people work
with the City well and have complied with the UDC.
Steve Simonson stated that is true and they have a draft on how
they will incorporate a maintenance agreement into the HOA document
that is probably a lot stronger than the other way around. The
lawyers will together agree on how this should read to protect
everyone. They have also provided a preliminary HOA document which
clearly lays out the lots, number of years, with other pertinent
information. This is the documentation on the street maintenance
that is being worked out by the lawyers. All the information in
the UDC has been gone over entirely by everyone.
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Keith Van
Subdivision
Associates.
follows:
Dine moved to approve the final plat for
Unit 1. submitted by Don McCrary,
Gary Wallace seconded the motion which
Berry Creek
McCrary &
carried as
AYES: Pia Jarman, David Richmond, Tony Moreno, Keith Van Dine,
Gary Wallace.
NAYS: Merwin Willman.
ABSTENTION: Ernie Evans.
110 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Ron
Schrandt, Windy Meadows Phase II Master Plan.
(PC #264-96)
Pia Jarman stated the typical lot size plan of 42 X 100' mobile
home is shown as a single wide. Then there is a typical lot plat
54 X 100, is this still for single wide? Steve Simonson stated
that is for double wide.
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Steve Simonson stated this is a very straight forward layout.
There are several mistakes. It should read 42 X 100 and 54 X 100.
The width of the drainage channel that is going to have to be
placed is noted. This width is predicated on containing the water
sheet flowing down on West Dietz Creek that will cross Maske Road
and drop into the channel. Working closely with our engineers and
their engineers we are working out how the water will drop into the
channel across Maske Road, also on the preliminary discussions on
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phase III the upgrade of Maske Road to Schertz Parkway. This will
bring Maske Road up to County standards with hopes of getting the
road upgraded from FM 1518 to Schertz Parkway. The road that goes
across the channel will not be a bridge, it will be a low water
crossing the channel. There is an opening onto Maske Road in Phase
III. There will be an emergency break away gate at the end of Oak
Street fronting onto Maske Road.
Ernie Evans asked Steve what the projection is for the start of
construction on what can and can not be done on Maske Road.
Steve Simonson stated because the traffic on Maske Road will be
impacted, the plan is to try for finalization before phase III, to
get Maske Road upgraded to carry traffic. There is a verbal
agreement right now with the finalization being dealt with. From
the west end of the property line to Schertz Parkway it will be
rebuilt. The county is being talked to also to be part of the same
contract do get the road done. Along Maske Road on the Master Plan
the double line shows they are providing the City with an extra 15'
of ROW. When this area is redone the road will be built as a
county 24' double sealed road. Some day this road will have to be
built wider and better. As the area becomes developed we are
requesting everyone to provide additional ROW. This is the
preliminary master plan with areas that will need to be corrected.
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Tony Moreno moved to disapprove the Windy Meadows Master as
submitted by Ron Schrandt. Gary Wallace seconded the motion which
carried with a unanimous vote.
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CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION:
Schrandt, Windy Meadows
Plat. (PC #265-96)
Request
Phase II
from Ron
Preliminary
Steve Simonson stated as pointed out in the master plan the 15'
ROW, the names of the roads are indicated the property ROW. There
are two sheets with the curve data information included. On the
third sheet the information that will need to be removed is the
county judge signature which is not required in the City of
Schertz. The recordation information will have to be included.
Ernie Evans asked about the flood plain information. Steve
Simonson stated the flood plain information is not finalized that
is why this is just a preliminary plat. This information is being
worked on at this time. The information provided will be within at
least a couple of feet in line with the engineering that was done
previously with this channel which will go into the existing
channel of Windy Meadows.
Merwin Willman asked if the utilities would be in the street. Pat
Lackey stated the the water would be in the front of the lots with
the remaining utilities being in the rear of the lots.
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Merwin Willman questioned if the streets would be private streets
or public streets. Steve Simonson advised they would be private.
Merwin Willman stated he is concerned about the statement on the
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last page signed by representative of Windy Meadows dedicating the
streets as public. The way the statement reads it reads that the
streets are public.
Steve Simonson stated they are dedicating Oak Street
proposed drainage ROW which will become part of the City.
of the mobile home ordinance, all other streets are
streets. If the Commission wishes this to be on the plat
have to be so noted.
and the
As part
private
it would
David Richmond mentioned if they would just reword the existing
note to read all "streets excluding Oak Street as private streets."
Pia Jarman mentioned the items that need to be corrected as
mentioned are the county judge signature block to be removed,
recordation information will need to be added, and on the third
page the rewording of how the streets are to be dedicated.
Tony Moreno moved to approve the preliminary plat submitted by Ron
Schrandt, Windy Meadows Phase II with the corrections; delete the
county judge signature block, add the signature blocks needed for
recordation, change the wording in the notes "all streets" to "Oak
Street", and typical lot layout with the utility easements. Keith
Van Dine seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
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CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Request from Diana Gardner
Buffington Homes ,Special Exception to Zoning
Ordinance for a front yard setback. (BOA #75-96)
Steve Simonson stated Buffington Homes did provide a site plan.
There is a huge oak tree with this being the only good tree on the
lot. This request for a variance will not appear to cause any
problem with the line up of the homes on Mimosa as there will only
be four houses on the street.
James Leonard stated the tree is 30" in diameter.
tree next to it of 24" in diameter. The house is
which is not very deep so if the variance could be
the tree assuming in the construction of the house
lost.
There is another
only 41' deep
granted to save
the tree is not
Tony Moreno
exception to
submitted by
which carried
moved to recommend to the BOA approval for a special
the zoning ordinance for a front yard setback
Buffington Homes. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion
with a unanimous vote.
113 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Randy
Burch, Burch Roofing to rezone .0354 acres from
R-2 to R-3 on First Street and Church Street.
(ZC #125-96) Tabled 3-12-96
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Pia Jarman stated this
meeting until ownership
this time the request was
item was tabled at the
of the property could be
taken from the table.
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Ernie Evans asked Pia Jarman if the
determined and it was not Mr. Burch.
this being true.
rightful owner
Steve Simonson
has been
agreed to
David Richmond moved to deny the request from Randy Burch, Burch
Roofing to rezone .0354 acres from R-2 to R-3 on First Street and
Church Street as Mr. Burch is not the owner of said property.
Ernie Evans seconded the motion which carried with a unanimous
vote.
114 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Floyd
Dicus to rezone .0354 acres on First Street
and Church Street from R-2 (Single Family
Dwelling District) to R-3 (Two Family Dwelling
District). (ZC #1296-96)
Steve Simonson stated Mr. Dicus is the owner, information
has been checked with the taxing entity and tax accessor.
metes and bounds are correct for the property. The map that
attached is also correct for this piece of property. There are
empty lots on the downside of First Street.
which
The
is
two
Ernie Evans questioned Mr.
building on this lot.
Dicus on what he is planning on
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Mr. Dicus informed the Commission he would be building a brand new
duplex for relatives to reside in. Mr. Dicus had preliminary
floor plans for anyone to view.
Mr. Dicus stated about two or three years ago this property was up
for sale. Mr. Burch at the time asked Mr. Dicus for the legal
description of the property which Mr. Dicus gave him. Mr. Burch
wanted to move some duplexes onto this property from another
location. In the meantime Mr. Dicus' mother wanted to retire in
this area, so Mr. Dicus removed the property from the market. Mr.
Burch at the time was trying to get this property rezoned before he
bought the property.
Merwin Willman moved to recommend to City Council for public
hearings the request from Floyd Dicus to rezone .0354 acres from
First Street and Church from R-2 (Single Family Dwelling District)
to R-3 (Two Family Dwelling District). Tony Moreno seconded the
motion which carried with a unanimous vote.
David Richmond thanked Mr. Dicus for having come to the Public
Hearing to state the property in question was rightfully his.
115 CONSIDER AND DISCUSS: Schertz Parkway Future Development
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Steve Simonson handed out copies of how Schertz Parkway could look
in the future. There are two different shots of the conceptual
area on what Schertz Parkway would look like. The green area on
the top and bottom is the map that Mr. Willman had done
previously. This map was used and overlayed with the width of the
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road. The dotted lines indicate the ROW for Schertz Parkway. The
blue on the top of the sheet represents the existing curb. There
is also a red dotted line that is the other side of the existing
pavement. The curve is on side of the road which is built today,
down to the dash red line which is the street. This is how it
looks if you were to go up Schertz Parkway on the right hand side
of the roadway. What is drawn is three fourteen foot driveways or
three fourteen foot road lengths. There is a 12' green belt, a 8'
hiking, biking, walking trail, and another 12' green belt which
would comply with the 86' ROW of what the road has today. This is
a much clearer picture of the existing curve and the existing
pavement. The little mound or rise on the new side of the road
would have low bushes. The blue dotted lines are the existing ROW
of the road.
Gary Wallace asked if the green belt would be left natural. Steve
Simonson stated it would be left like it is today with once or
twice a year mowing. Whatever is planted would be able to be left
as natural and with some ROW mowing.
Pia Jarman asked what the walking path would be made of. Steve
Simonson stated this is open for discussion but would like it to be
appealing, walkable and look nice. Merwin Willman mentioned for a
walking path you would not want concrete maybe dirt or something of
this nature.
Steve Simonson stated being that this is a conceptual plan, in
talking with the engineers, the way they are making tracks
now-a-days they are a lot easier on the feet and to maintain also.
With all the development taking place, there is going to be money
coming into the Development Foundation and it members are the ones
that control this road. Steve mentioned he is under the impression
that the Commission does not want to see Schertz Parkway a five
lane road. If something is to be get done, the sooner the better
that everyone is in agreement on what to bring to the Development
Foundation and to also get them to agree to get this going a lot
sooner. In conjunction with this LCRA will be building a parallel
major heavy duty power line adjacent to the existing CPS line of
the existing substation on King in Live Oak Hills back to the
substation in North Cliff. There has been talk with LCRA to take
the existing 130 - 140' ROW that they are getting and incorporating
them into hiking and biking paths crosscountry. LCRA has mentioned
that if any grants are needed out of the park commission or other
areas, the City will need an overall parks plan. To comply with
this the Commission will need to have something in the
Comprehensive Plan to this effect and to look at the whole scenario
on how we want the City laid out as far as hiking, biking trails
parks etc. Some information that has been thought out is to take
East Live Oak to IH 35 to the main power lines where it is going to
be expanding and go crosscountry to the east Dietz Creek drainage
channel, and follow it down through the City park ROW in front of
Oak Forest back to the area in Greenshire, to have a walking path
and come back through Cibolo and our existing drainage channels in
Dove Meadows all the way to Cibolo Creek nature trail that is being
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planned all the way from Boerne. There are many areas and lots of
ideas to think about. When they come in to do the power lines they
are going to have to cut off 20 to 40 acres of the Barshop
property. There will be some nice things that can be done with
parks and green spaces and still leave a buffer for the Deer Haven
and other residents. At this point we can work on a green belt
from Schertz Parkway to FM 3009. This will need to be an overall
city plan that needs to be included in the Comprenhensive Plan.
Merwin Willman mentioned with the few areas that are general
business on Schertz Parkway it would be nice instead of rezoning in
pieces make it all residential. It appears that Schertz Parkway
will not have any general business, so zone it to the next best use
of the land along Schertz Parkway.
Ernie Evans commented he is all for this. He likes the design and
it is on the east side of Schertz Parkway. Steve Simonson stated
the west side of Schertz Parkway already is developed with the
curves etc. With the east side being undeveloped this was a much
easier plan.
Steve Simonson stated if the Foundation can be convinced and agrees
with the Commission, Steve believes the City Council will be in
agreement also with this concept. With a weight limit on Schertz
Parkway you can not have a five lane road with heavy traffic.
. Steve Simonson stated if there is a consensus of the Commission
Steve will talk with Mark Marquez and find a time and date for the
two bodies to meet to discuss the Commission's concerns. Steve
stated he will have an answer by the next meeting for the
Commission.
116 GENERAL DISCUSSION:
Tony Moreno:
Tony Moreno stated he had no comments.
Keith Van Dine:
Keith Van Dine stated he had no comments.
Gary Wallace:
Gary Wallace stated he had no comments.
Ernie Evans:
Ernie Evans asked
Woodland Oaks are
out of the area.
can be used for.
what the white rocks in the detention pond behind
for? Steve Simonson stated that was what was cut
There is some discussion going on now on what it
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Ernie Evans asked about the trees in the pond that are left on
islands. Are these islands going to be contained in some way to
keep them from washing away? Steve Simonson stated he is not sure.
They are trying to save all the trees and the pond has been rebuilt
since our last meeting because of some engineering concerns on the
readings on the density.
Merwin Willman:
Merwin Willman asked how the memorial for Bob Andrews was coming
along. Steve Simonson handed out the plaque for review that will
be presented by the City Council in memory of Bob.
Merwin Willman commented in the ordinance it is stated that the
Planning and Zoning Commission approves street names. In the last
couple of meetings there have been plats submitted with street
names already on them. If the Commission does not approve street
names then this should be eliminated from the ordinance. Merwin
hates to see it deleted because this ordinance would prevent street
names being duplicated, etc.
Steve Simonson stated since more than several years ago the
Office has had to approve street names. As far as street
sounding alike the Commission can make a decision.
Post
names
David Richmond:
David Richmond stated he had no comments.
Pia Jarman:
Chairwoman Pia Jarman stated she had no comments.
Councilman Ken Greenwald:
Councilman Ken Greenwald stated he had no comments.
Steve Simonson:
Steve Simonson stated he has now been appointed on the MPO as the
Transportation Committee. Steve was on the advisory board but now
has moved up with more say on voting on money and future roads.
117 ADJOURNMENT:
Keith Van Dine moved to adjourn the meeting. David Richmond
seconded the motion, which carried with a unanimous vote.
Chairwoman Pia Jarman adjourned the meeting at 9:25 p.m.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is April 9, 1996.
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