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MINUTES OF THE SCHERTZ/SEGUIN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION
THE STATE OF TEXAS t
COUNTY OF GUADALUPE t
SCHERTZ/SEGUIN LOCAL t
GOVERNMENT CORPORATION t
On this, the 20th day of May, 1999, the Schertz/Seguin Local Government
Corporation convened at 1 :30 p.m. in the Schertz Ubrary Meeting Room
located at 608 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas with the following members
being present and in attendance:
Robin Dwyer
Ramon Cook
Jim Wolverton
Sidney Bauer
Gloria Rivera
President
Vice-President
Secretary
Director
Director
constituting a majority of the persons appointed to the Board and a
quorum for the transaction of business, and notice of such meeting having
been duly given in accordance with the provisions of Texas law. Also in
attendance were Ken Greenwald, Kerry Sweatt and Jack Hamlett. Absent:
Eric Vordenbaum.
The meeting was called to order by President Robin Dwyer, noting that Eric
Vordenbaum and Secretary Jim Wolverton were absent. The second order
of business was approval of minutes for the meeting of April 15, 1999.
Mr. Sweatt distributed a corrected set of minutes and then announced Mr.
Wolverton would be here, but is running late. Director Bauer noted there
was a typing error on page 2, paragraph 2, second sentence where it says
other entities did no. That should be changed to read other entities did not.
Director Rivera moved to approve the minutes, as presented, with the
change suggested by Mr. Bauer, for the meeting of April 15, 1999. Vice-
President Cook seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous vote of
all Directors present.
The third order of business was a report from the consultant regarding the
status of the study and engineering design. Mr. Crockett Camp stated he
first wanted to catch everybody up on the Guadalupe County Underground
Water District. When we met last time, it was coming up shortly on the
House Natural Resources Committee. It has passed through the House, is
out of the Senate Natural Resources Committee and is set for the
...
uncontested calendar of the Senate. He expects it will probably go on the
calendar sometime next week. Everything has gone very well, especially
considering how late it is. They took all the other bills creating districts
and put them in one bill. The good news is those districts will be created,
but the bad news is they won't have any power to do anything for more
than two years. We didn't want to be (and are not) included in those.
President Dwyer wondered if that puts the power in the hands of the
municipalities and Mr. Camp remarked or in the hands of the large water
users. Mr. Camp commented it hasn't put any power in our hands, but has
probably put some power in the hands of San Antonio, Houston and Dallas.
President Dwyer asked how that impacts the. Bastrop Plan. Mr. Camp
replied they were worried that District would be created and interrupt what
they were planning to do with Bastr~p. They will try to control that District
now through the Plan. One of the ways they will do that, because all. of
these districts have to have a conservation plan approved by the State.. is
to say they can't have their plan approved by the State until they finish the
Senate Bill 1 plans. They will be subject to the Senate Bill 1 plans.
Vice-President Cook noted he who has the biggest pump could get the
most water, for the time being. Mr. Camp agreed.
Mr. Camp then went on to say the Supreme Court spoke to the Ozarka case
this month and he feels the overall results for the Colporation are very
beneficial. They have said, once again, the State has the right to regulate
groundwater. He doesn't feel it's as simple as some people think it is. The
next big test will be the election. There was a brief discussion about when
such an election would be held and other options available such as going
through TNRCC and the landowner petition process.
President Dwyer commented the Supreme Court says the right of capture
exists subject to the rights of the utility districts and the underground
water districts to regulate. Is that correct? Mr. Camp replied he thinks
what they're saying, in a nutshell, is that the 1917 Conservation
Amendment gave the State the ri.Qht to regulate and the legislature has
chosen the means to regulate. The flip side of that amendment is to
conserve the resource. What they said was they would not insert
themselves at this time in order to give Senate Bill 1 a chance to work. Mr.
Pat Lindner commented this is the second time in recent years the
legislature has had the opportunity to address the capture issue and
chosen not to do so. Vice-President Cook, saying he was taking the other
side, noted an engineer started working on a State water plan on April 1,
1955 and he still hasn't seen a plan come out of any committee.
President Dwyer then asked Mr. Clay Roming if he had anything to add. Mr.
Roming stated he thought they had reached the point where they can now
make more meaningful progress as far as beginning and ending. They
have done some preliminary work on iron removal and have a very brief
report on what they can expect in the way of treatment for that The
American Water Works Association meets in June at Chicago and he will
probably attend that conference.
Mr. Roming went on to say that next week he will have the final water
volumes they will be dealing with and review those with both cities to make
sure they concur with it and how they wish to handle it. Also, next week
he will have some infonnation on the pipeline. President Dwyer asked Mr.
Roming if he, as an engineer, had made a detennination on the best
technology to use for iron removal and Mr. Roming replied filtration is the
best way. Things appear to be in pretty good shape now. They have
bigger motors and hopefully more electricity. Director Bauer asked if he's
talking about three-phase electricity and Mr. Roming replied thafs correct.
Mr. Camp added there's a line that runs through where they think they will
be starting. They questioned the property owner and he is using Central
Power and Ught for his feed mill because they have three-phase power
available at that sight There are a couple of good things besides water at
this site. One is a big Central Power and Ught transmission line going
right through it Also, they had talked once before about possibly following'
the right-of-way of a gas transmission line coming out of Gonzales County
and that line just misses the comer of this property. These two things
facilitate what we've got there. Mr. Roming commented it makes the job
easier and the cost of the project less. Mr. Sweatt wondered if we could get
service from the transmission line. Mr. Camp said he didn't know about off
the transmission line, but he knows there's plenty of power there.
President Dwyer mentioned he has worked with Central Power and Ught in
the past and they have always been very helpful.
Mr. Camp reported they had talked with GVEC already and in that general
area, there is no problem getting service from them. They are just not
going to have the capacity to do some of the things we need. We actually
have service from both utilities.
Director Rivera asked Mr. Roming if he had received her letter regarding
regional planning. What they need is the total amount of our needs to the
year 2000. They need some kind of projection on the number of acre feet.
Mr. Roming replied he would provide that. Every region seems to be on the
same time schedule and he will have that by the 1 st of June. Mr. Roming
offered to present it to this Board if Director Rivera wants, and she thought
that would be a good idea. She also told Mr. Roming they need a provision
in case of drought. There was some discussion about this and Mr. Roming
admitted it worries him they will come up with something with which
regional planning doesn't agree.
Mr. Roming then asked if the water demands have to be turned in by the
first part of August and Director Rivera answered they have already turned
in the water demands. Right now they are doing a study on options. We
need to be assertive about the water we need.
Mr. Camp said, from what he understands, probably what they will have
available to them from Gonzales County is about 20,000 acre feet and in the
area of Wilson County they have looked at, probably another 40,000 acre
feet. Our beginning will probably be about 10,000 acre feet. Mr. Camp felt
it would be a good idea for the Board to look at that as well as projections.
There will be that much water there to develop. If you take 10,000 or 15,000
acre feet out of the center of this, and then someone else comes in and
develops in the same area, they will overdraw that particular part of the
aquifer. Some of ttlis is protective in the sense we will have a large stake in
this section of the aquifer. You ought to put your name on as much of it as
they will let you.
Mr. Roming related he thinks they have somewhere around 15,000 to 17000
acre feet identified for both cities for the year 2050. It occurs to him that
once you start doing this, other people will show an interest in it. There
may be a need to show unidentified future users. That way we could add -
on to our identified needs. He's thinking another 5,000 acre feet would not
be an unreasonable amount to add to the identified 2050 needs of the
cities. Selling that lowers the cost to the two participants. There's a great
deal of thought that goes into the reasoning of what we can reasonably
justify. Mr. Roming said he has a personal basic philosophy that says
you never want to be caught asking for and providing too little water; you
don't want to underestimate; and, if you overestimate, the water won't
disappear. Mr. Roming then spoke briefly about projections and
community assets.
Vice-President Cook stated he had several items to mention before those
assembled at the meeting. First, there is a map published by SAWS
showing all the places they can go to get water. He distributed copies of
the map. Second, Mr. Borgfeld and Mr. Pridgeon of GVEC have spoken
with him and asked him about the Corporation's plans. They indicated
they want the business of pumping water to our cities and they want it very
badly.
Director Rivera related her conviction is that we need separate sources of
water for our two cities so we can be an independent source and can
control our own destinies. Mr. Camp said he has every reason to believe
that SAWS has stated their purpose is not to harm or hurt our project in
any way. He expects they will be cooperative, perhaps supportive.
Director Bauer asked him why he is being so altruistic and he replied
because this project is taking some of the burden off SAWS.
The fourth order of business was an Executive Session called under
Chapter 551 Local Government Code, Subsection 551.072, deliberation
regarding real property. An Executive Session was held from 2:24 p.m.
until 3:05 p.m. (Secretary Wolverton had arrived in time for the Executive
Session.)
The fifth order of business was to consider and take action as a result of
Item #3 and President Dwyer noted that should be Item #4 instead.
President Dwyer moved the Board accept and ratify the earnest money
contract, to purchase land, dated May 17, 1999. Director Rivera seconded
the motion, which was carried by unanimous vote of all Directors present.
The sixth order of business was a report by staff and there was nothing to
report.
There being no further business offered, it was moved and seconded that
the meeting be adjourned. Upon a vote being taken, the motion carried by
a unanimous vote of all Directors present and the meeting was adjourned
at 3:08 p.m.
MINUTES APPROVED this the
day of
. 1999.
Signatures of all Directors
Robin Dwyer, President
Ramon J. Cook, Vice-President
Jim Wolverton, Secretary
Sidney Bauer, Director
Gloria Rivera, Director