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11-27-1984 .-.~ - e e e PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular session on Tuesday, November 27, 1984 in the Municipal Complex Conference Room) 1400 Live Oak Road. Members present were as follows: PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOHN LINEBARGER, CHAIRMAN THOMAS YARLING, VICE-CHAIRMAN DARWIN PEEK) SECRETARY RAY STANHOPE MERl:JI N WILLMAN BOB ANDREWS JAMES HARDEN KEN GREENWALD) COUNCILMAN #1. CALL TO ORDER OTHERS PRESENT HENRY S~lI ERCIAK ALAN LINDSKOG CITY STAFF EARL HARTZOG, PLANNING COORDINATOR Chairman Linebarger called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. #2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session November 13) 1984 It was noted Item #6 first variance should be amended to read: "variance on length of cul-de-sac) with 100 foot paved turn radius with no parking on the street". . Ray Stanhope made a motion to approve minutes as amended. Bob Andrews seconded the motion and the vote was unanimo~s in favor. #3. CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Scenic Hills, Phase II) Unit I Alan Lindskog from Dannenbaum Engineering presented the final plat to the Commission. He also asked for a variance on the City Engineer's requirement of 200 foot radius on curve "f_y", "c_r" and ilk_nil. The Commission was advised that the City had approved the curve radius on the preliminary plat and the same radius is shown on the final plat. Mr. Lindskog also advised the Commis- sion that the Texas Department of Highways and Public Transportation's "High- way Design Division Operations Procedures Manual II the City Engineer is using is different from the Subdivision Ordinance. He pointed out that the cover sheet for the Manual states that: "Thi s Manual establ i shes pol i ci es for operati ons and procedures for preliminary project planning and development; geometric design; base and pavement design; and preparing plans) specifications and estimates. It is not designed as and does not establish legal standards for these operations. The Manual is provided solely for use of the Texas Depart- ment of Highways and Public Transportation." Mr. Lindskog asked the Commission to grant a variance from this requirement because he would lose a lot or two if this requirement was to be followed by his firm. - J e e e Earl Hartzog advised the Commission that the requirements in the City Ordinances are in conflict with State and Federal-requirements) and when this happens) the most stringent or restrictive rules shall govern. Chairman Linebarger was pro- vided copies of A Policy on Geometric Design of Highways and Streets 1984 by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) and Highway Design Division Operations and Procedures Manual 2-76. The Com- mission was advised these are Federal and State design standards which estab- lish criteria for roadway improvements, urban local. Both take precedence over minimum requirements. ~ Chairman Linebarger advised those present that the following paragraph (on page 123) from Federal standards appears to be quite clear. The Commission does not have the authoruty to grant the variance. Whose responsibility is it to see that maximum safety is incorpo- rated into our motor vehicle transportation system? On this, the subcommittee is adamant. It is the responsibility of Government and specifically those agencies that, by law, have been given that mandate. This responsibility begins with the Congress and flows through the Department of Transportation) its Federal Highway Administration) the State Highway Departments and safety agencies, and the street and highway units of counties) townships) cities and towns. There is no retreating from this mandate, either in letter or in spirit. . It was noted the preliminary plat did not have the curb radius identified and this item is not one of the items checked at that time. It was recommended the final plat approval be tabled until the City Staff could advise the Commission on the ruling by the City Engineer and City Attorney, plus input from the Police and Fire Departments on this matter~ Merwin Willman made the motion as stated above and James Harden seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous in favor. The City Staff was instructed to place this item on the agenda for the next meeting. #4. CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Zoning Classification on area identified as Predevelopment District on Zoning Map Earl Hartzog advised the Commission that this item was placed on the agenda because two different developers had been in contact last week about presenting their proposal to the Commission. Since neither developer was present) the Staff recommended this item be skipped unless the Commission desired to make some recommended zoning changes. There were no recommendations from the Commission. #5. CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Variance Seventh Day Adventist Earl Hartzog gave the Commission a letter from Harold Bradbury, Builder - Texas Conference of Seventh-Day Adventists. The letter was asking for some exceptions to keep the building cost down on the project. The Commission was advised the the Staff had not completed the study on this request and some changes could be made) and the development would be in accordance with the Subdivision Ordinance. e e- e " J .. The Commission agreed if any variance were required for this project, City Council should be the party tasked with making the decision. #6. CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION:' A. Special Overlay District FM 3009 Earl Hartzog advised the Commission this Item was on the agenda based on the request by the Commission at previous meetings. The City Staff had not-suf- ficient time to make the changes as discussed at a previous meeting. There was a brief discussion by the Commission on the use and restriction in the Special Overlay District. B. Special Overlay District AICUZ Earl Hartzog advised the Commission that the Staff recommended the AICUZ be added as an Overlay District. The Commission was presented a copy of the proposed change. It was agreed the wording should be changed to reflect the most recent study by Randolph. #7. CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: A. Subdivision Ordinance Review The Commission completed the review of the Subdivision Ordinance. It was agreed the Staff needed to make approptfate changes to Section 18 and the Commission should go over this part at the next meeting. B. Zoning Ordinance Review - It was noted the Commission needed to get going on the review of this Ordinance. Merwin Willman was to consolidate a list and separate committees would be ~stablished to work on each section. I . #8. GENERAL DISCUSSION Earl Hartzog advised the Commission of the scheduled public hearing for December 4. It was noted the TV dish ordinance change has not been added to the ordinance and the Commission has not been provided copies. Need to establish restrictions on these on top of buildings. Earl Hartzog advised the Commission on the status of Crime Watch and second' curb cut for 429 Sharon Court. Councilman Greenwald passed out copies of the Council Bellringer and .minutes. It was agreed the Secretary would control the flow of this information. There was some discussion on the enforcement of the Sign Ordinance - flashing lights again on, Main and FM 78. There was discussion on the fences in the drainage right-of-way along the Southerly side of Val Verde Subdivision. It was asked for Staff,to provide status on this item at the next meeting. #9. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Linebarger adjourned the meeting at 9:56 P.M.