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PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened 1n a regular
session on Tuesday, March 26, 1991 at 7:00 P.M. in the Municipal
Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway. Those present
were as follows:
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
OTHERS PRESENT
BOB ANDREWS, CHAIRMAN
JIM SHRIVER, VICE-CHAIRMAN
KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY
MERWIN WILLHAN
GEORGE VICK
HARRY BAUMAN
GARY BRICKEN
COUNCILPERSON KEN GREENWALD
C.P. VAUGHAN,
VAUGHAN HOMES
LEON DAVIS,
1017 GETTYSBURG
BOBBIE VONADA,
121 HENRY FORD
CITY STAFF
STEVE SIMONSON, ASST. CITY MGR.
NORMA ALTHOUSE, RECORDING SECIy.
#1 CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
#2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session March 12, 1991
Jim Shriver pointed out that on page 4, paragraph 5 it states:
"George maintained his argument that the State law is misquoted."
It should read: "George Mower maintained his argument that the
State law is misquoted."
Merwin Willman made a motion to approve the minutes, as amende~,
for the regular session March 12, 1991. Keith Van Dine seconded
the motion and the vote- was unanimous in favor. Motion carried.
#3 CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
Leon Davis asked if he might be provided a copy of the minutes
just approved by the Commission. Bobbie Vonada made the same
request. Copies were provided to both.
#4 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Final Plat Approval -
The Gardens Subdivision (PC #164-90)
The following addendum to the agenda replaced ITEM #4:
#4b. CONSIDER AND
TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION:
Approval The Gardens
#164-90)
Preliminary Plat
Subdivision (PC
(ITEM #4 was incorrectly listed as final plat approval and
should, instead, have been listed as preliminary plat approval.)
C.P. Vaughan was at the meeting to represent this request.
Chairman Andrews reviewed the history so far of The Gardens
Subdivision. The preliminary plat was brought before the
Commission for approval on March 27, 1990 at which time it was
discovered a zoning change would be needed. Action on the
preliminary plat was tabled until after a public hearing was held
on the rezoning request.
The Planning and Zoning Commission conducted a public hearing on
May 22 at which time they recommended to City Council approval of
the request for a zoning change for a 2.286 acre tract fromGB to
R-5A.
City Council conducted a public hearing on June 5, 1990 on the
rezoning request and the request was approved.
There has been no further action on the plat until now.
Chairman Andrews asked for Staff input.
steve Simonson informed the Commission the ingress/egress radius
meets the requirements of the Fire Dept., the. Police Dept. and
SAFES, and the flood study required by Ford Engineering has been
completed and the results accepted by Ford.
A question came up about Lot 12 which is in the Drainage Flood
study R.O.W. and C.P. Vaughan told Steve Simenson that Lot 12 was
taken out, it must have been an oversight leaving it on the plat.
Steve Simonson drew a diagram for the Commission showing the area
where the City pump station is (on Schertz Parkway) and also the
sewer line which runs from Samuel Clemens High School under
Schertz Parkway back out to the pump station and to a manhole,
going back toward the drainage facility, on the other side of the
drainage facility. Mr. Simonson said he understands a sewer line.
was put in there during urban renewal, but the City cannot find
anything showing the easement. Mr. Simonson said they are
researching it and as a result something may have to be added to
the plat.
George Vick asked if the current drainage is going to be changed.
steve Simonson repl ied by saying the drainage channel will be
realigned and straightened a little bit and the bottom will be
taken out to give it the proper flow. Mr. Simonson indicated it
will probably require some work, on the part of the City, to the
other side of the drainage ditch.
Jim Shriver asked C.P. Vaughan if, on the Pecan Drive side, they
hadnlt previously talked about providing a means of access for
property owners to be able to pull motor homes into their
backyards. Mr. Vaughan replied they had discussed a 1 I non-
vehicular access, and continued on to say he wants a means for
all of these homeowners to be able to get in behind the fence.
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Merwin Willman mentioned that the conversation about that access
had prompted the Commission to propose the following changes
(w'hich were approved by City Council) to Section 15.5,
Specifications, Paragraph 0, of the Subdivision Ordinance:
"A non-access easement will be shown when the rear or side of the
property abuts a highway or street.
(1) A one-foot non-access easement along a street when lots have
another dedicated access to a public right-of-way. (For
residential subdivision plats only.)
(2) One-foot partial access easement along a street when
have another access to public-right-of-way, only by use
portable ramps. (For residential subdivision plats only.)"
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Chairman Andrews commented there can be no curb cuts, but there
can be a l' partial access easement only by use of portable
ramps.
Merwin Willman stressed that the 11 partial access easement needs
to be shown on the plat along Pecan Drive.
Gary Bricken then asked if you can drive over the curb. Merwin
Willman replied you're not supposed to because. eventually the
curb will break down. There was a brief discussion on this
subject.
Jim Shriver asked whatls happening to the former Lot 12 - is it a
greenbelt area?
C.P. Vaughan replied, that at the present time, it will probably
just remain open land with a commercial zoning.
Chairman Andrews questioned if Lot 12 disappears, what will that
make the corner.
Steve Simonson responded by saying that's something he needs to
research. You could do two things. One option is to do away
with Lot 12 and the other option is to take it and put it in that
other open area showing the drainage R.O.W. as just a drainage
R.O.W. and Lot 12 as Lot 12. Mr. Simonson said he needs to see
how Mr. Vaughan wants to handle it.
Chairman Andrews remarked that if nothing 1S done, it will
eventually have to be vacated and replatted.
C.P. Vaughan noted there is still some question about whether or
not Lot 12 should be on the plat. Steve Simonson indicated the
City is researching the situation.
Merwin Willman pointed out that the zon1ng for Lot 12
changed, and therefore, Lot 12 should not be on the plat.
a commercial zoning.
wa s not
It has
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steve Simonson answered by saying itls okay for it to be on the
plat unless the Commission doesnlt want it on.
Merwin Willman noted that according to the Subdivision Ordinance,
utilities lines should be shown on the preliminary plat.
Chairman Andrews told Mr. Willman the utilities lines are on
this plat dnd showed him the locations.
Mr. Willman then mentioned that according to the Zoning
Ordinance, the setback requirements should be shown on the
preliminary plat - the setback line on the street side should be
shown.
Discussion then followed about the two lots on Schertz Parkway
and also about the' 10 I side yard setback requirement from the
R.O.W.
The Commissioners talked about what it will visually look like
from Schertz Parkway the right-of-way a.rea, the curb, the
sidewalk, the grassy area, and the fence which C.P. Vaughan said
would be shadowbox fence similar to that in Greenshire Oaks. It
was also pointed out that part of the fence along Schertz Parkway.
will be the brick wall of the houses on the two lots on Schertz
Parkway (Lots 1 and 11).
Referring to the requirement for a 10' side yard setback from the
Schertz Parkway right-of-way, C.P. Vaughan asked if therels any
way to get a variance. Mr. Vaughan indicated he thought he could
live with 51.
Merwin Willman commented a variance may be a possibility, but
expressed his concern about safety.
Harry Bauman asked how close the houses will be to Schertz
Parkway and Chairman Andrews replied they will be 101 from it.
There was discussion about whether or not a public hearing would
be required for the variance and it was decided, since it is a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, a public hearing would be
necessary.
Merwin Willman also brought up the .039 acre road where Pecan
comes into Schertz Parkway and asked jf it had ever been
dedicated. Both C. P. Vaughan and Councilperson Ken Greenwald
were sure it had been dedicated, but suggested Steve Simonson
check into it for sure.
Merwin Willman mentioned also that the ordinance requlres a
floodplain statement be on the plat.
C.P. Vaughan advised the Commission that Steve Simonson had told
him to remove the floodplain statement (which had been on the
plat when it was discussed a year ago) because the floodplain
study took the place of the statement.
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Steve Simonson related that the floodplain study information,
according to Ford Engineering, makes the information concerning
Lots 8, 9, 10 and 11 no longer valid, but there does need to be a
floodplain statement on the plat and he will work one out with
I'-1r. Vaughan.
Gary Bricken, referring back to when they were reading through
the ordinance regarding the 10' setback requirement, said he also
noticed the minimum depth of the lot in an area zoned R-5A is
required to be 100', and the minimum area of the lot is required
to be 5,000 square feet. Pointing out that Lot 11 only has a
depth of 92' and an area of 4,872 square feet, Mr. Bricken asked
if C.P. Vaughan needs a variance for this also and was informed
by Chairman Andrews he does. Mr. Bricken indicated he would like
to clear everything up in the beginning so this situation doesnlt
drag out any longer than possible.
Discussion on this brought up another matter about the zero lot
line. C.P. Vaughan asked if he is required to build every house
on the lot line.
Chairman Andrews read an excerpt from the Zoning Ordinance,.
Article XI, Section 3.1 as follows:
"Zero lot line homes will be uniformly located on the same side
of the lot within a street block.
Zero lot I ine homes shall have no windows on the side of the
house which abuts the property line.
No area shall be designated R-5A that contains less than five
adjoining lots on each street."
Steve Simonson noted that all 11 lots are considered one block,
so the way he reads ~t, all the homes do not have to be built on
the lot line.
Harry Bauman pointed out that if all the homes were built on the
lot line, the conf igurations wouldn't work out and Keith Van
Dine said that's correct if they were all built on the lot
line, one of the homes would look like a tunnel.
The consensus of the Commission was that 'all the homes do not
have to be built on the lot line, especially since at a certain
point within the block, the direction of the homes chang~s.
Jim Shriver observed they need a motion and two variances.
Chairman Andrews commented there canlt be a varlance until
therels a final plat and then wondered if thatls true.
Steve Simonson advised there can't be a final plat approval until
the variances are approved.
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Steve Simonson told C.P. Vaughan that the way things look right
now, taking into consideration newspaper publication of the
notices, scheduled meeting of City Council, etc., the earliest
possible date he sees for a public hearing is in May.
Saying he thought everything had been discussed, Chairman Andrews
asked for a Dotion.
Merwin Willman made a motion to table action on the preliminary
plat for The Gardens subdivision until the follo\\"ing items are
included on the plat:
(1) The l' partial access easement should be shown on the plat.
(2) The 10' side yard setback from Schertz Pkwy. R.O.W. should be
shown on the plat.
(3) The .039 road dedication at Pecan Dr. and Schertz Pkwy.
should be eliminated from the plat.
(4) The sewer easement/Lot 12 situation should be resolved.
(5) A floodplain statement should be on the plat.
At this point Chairman Andrews asked Merwin Willman if he wanted
to table action on the preliminary plat or approve it contingent
on these items being on the final plat. Mr. Andrews commented
they usually approve it with the contingency the items be on the
final plat, this speeds the process up a little. Mr. Willman
changed his motion to say he approved the preliminary plat
contingent upon the items listed being included on the final
plat.
There was a brief discussion about the variance needed by Mr.
Vaughan regarding the size and depth of Lot 11 and the variance
needed on the 10' side yard setback. Gary Bricken mentioned the
possibility ~f going ahead with the building of 9 other houses
and getting the variance on the lot size, say three years down
the road.
Mr. Willman commented the variances have to be requested by Mr.
Vaughan and they have to be approved before the final plat is
approved. Nothing can be started until final plat approval is
accomplished.
Merwin Wi llman then continued on with the motion recommending
City Council schedule a public hearing for an 8' variance on the
minimum required lot size of Lot 11 and a 51 variance, for Lots 1
and 11, on the minimum side yard setback requirement from the
Schertz Parkway R.O.W.
Gary Bricken seconded the motion and the vote was unan1mous 1n
favor. Motion carried.
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C.P. Vaughan asked he could present a final plat to the
Commission contingent on the granting of the variances.
Steve Simonson informed Mr. Vaughan he could not do that.
C.P. Vaughan thanked the Commission and Chairman Andrews thanked
Mr. Vaughan for his patience.
#5 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Discussion on Conflict
Bet\veen Ordinance 87-S-9, Ordinance Creating
Planning and Zoning Commission, and the
Planning and Zoning Rules of Procedure
Chairman Andrews asked Jim Shriver if he had the differences
marked so the Commission could go back and forth between the two
documents. Mr. Shriver replied he had notes on his copy.
Merwin Willman explained that the Rules of Procedure must agree
with the Ordinance. Mr. Willman also stressed that, in his
opinion, only the Ordinance should be changed until we see
whether or not City Council approves the proposed changes. If
they do, then .change the Rules of Procedure to agree with the.
Ordinance.
The first question asked was by Gary Bricken, referring to
Ordinance 87-S-9, Section 2, Paragraph (2) where it reads: "The
members of the Planning and Zoning Commission shall be registered
voters of the corporate limits of the City of Schertz, Texas
....." Mr. Bricken wanted to know if thatls legal. Can you deny
a person a Commission spot because they do not wish to register
to vote?
Merwin Willman replied yes, you can.
Discussion on this subject continued. The Ordinance Creating the
Planning and Zoning Commission requires the person to be a
registered voter of the corporate limits of the City of Schertz;
the Planning and Zoning Rules of Procedure require the person to
be a qualified voter of the City; and, the City Charter requires
the person to be a qualified registered voter.
The consensus of the Commission on this issue was that the
Ordinance and the Rules of Procedure should be changed to agree
with the City Charter (requires the person to be a qualified
registered voter).
Chairman Andrews made a suggested change to the Ordinance for
Section 3, Terms of Office and Removal from Office. The
Ordinance currently reads: "The City Council may remove members
of the Planning and Zoning Commission from off ice for
malfeasance, conviction of a crime involving moral turpitude, or
three (3) consecutive unexcused absences from regular meetings of
the Commission."
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After discussion on the definitions of malfeasance and moral
turpitude, Mr. Andrews stated his main concern is the attendance,
or lack of attendance on the part of Commissioners. Mr. Andrews1
suggested change reads: "The City Council may remove members of
the Planning and Zoning Commission from office for malfeasance,
conviction of a crime involving moral turpitude, or failure to
attend two-thirds of the regular meetings of the Commission."
There was a brief discussion on the exact interpretation of two-
thirds of the regular meetings, with the Commission subsequently
agreeing to go with Chairman Andrews' suggested change.
The next change, brought to the Commission I s attention by Jim
Shriver and followed up by a suggestion from Keith Van Dine, was
that everywhere in the Rules of Procedure where it refers to
"Secretary", it be changed to read "Secretary and designated
Recording Secretary." The only exception to this would be in the
paragraph referring to the appointment/selection of officers for
the Commission. .
Another matter, pointed out by Chairman Andrews, was that in the
Rules of Procedures it states: "The Chairperson is a voting.
member and will vote on each motion presented." Mr. Andrews
commented this statement is not in the Ordinance.
After a brief discussion, it was the consensus of the Commission
that the statement should be included in the Ordinance as
Paragraph (4) of Section 7, Commission Actions.
In the Ordinance under Section 7, Commission Actions, Paragraph
(2) and in the Rules of Procedure under 503., Motions, Paragraph
B., there is a statement which reads: "When fewer than all
members are present for the voting and when all motions to
recommend on a given application fail to carry by two votes,
consideration of the application shall be continued to the next
regular meeting upon motion carried by a majority of those
present."
The consensus of the Commission was that this statement should be
changed in both documents to read as follows: "When fewer than
all members are present for the voting and when all motions to
recommend on a given application fail to secure four (4)
concurring votes, consideration of the application shall be
continued to the next regular meeting upon motion carried by a
majority of those present."
In the Ordinance, under Section 4, Organization, where it says:
"No member currently serving as Chairman or Vice-Chairman shall
be nominated to succeed himself as Chairman or Vice-Chairman if
he has served a full two-year term in either of such capacities",
the Commission recommended the phrase "except by unanimous vote
of the Commission" be added at the end of the sentence.
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Also in the Ordinance, Under Section 4, Organization, therels a
sentence that reads: ".........from Staff representatives
assigned by the Chief Executive of the City t.o work with the
Commission. II The Commission suggested Chief Executive be changed
to City ~1anager.
The Rules of Procedure under IV, Application Procedures,
Paragraph 402, Schedules and Instructions, mentions schedules and
instructions adopted as Appendixes to the Rules of Procedure.
Jim Shriver asked where the Appendixes are.
Merwin Willman suggested things such as the procedures for
changing a street or road name in the City of Schertz be included
in the Appendixes. Mr. Willman related he has a list of things
that could be compiled as the Appendixes and he thinks they
should be kept in a folder, not attached.
The consensus of the Commission was to include a sentence at the
end of Paragraph 402 which reads: "See attached list."
Another suggested change to the Rules of Procedure is under V,
Meetings, Paragraph 501, Order of Business. The last sentence.
reads "The Secretary shall publicly advise ,the Commission of any
communications received pertaining to any matter before the
C.ommission." The Commission felt since this is normally done by
the Planning Coordinator and not the Secretary, the word
"Secretary" should be changed to "Staff representative."
A final change t,o the Rules of Procedure was suggested for VI,
Certification and Amendments~ Paragraph 603, Amendment. It
currently reads "......~. such amendment is proposed at a
preceding meeting and spread on the minutes..." and the
Commission felt it would clarify it better to read: "........
such amendment is proposed at a preceding meeting and recorded in
the minutes..."
Gary Bricken made a motion that all changes discussed be
incorporated into the appropriate document (either the Ordinance
Creating the Planning and Zoning Commission or the Rules of
Procedure, or both) and sent forward to City Council. Keith Van
Dine seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor.
Motion carried.
16 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Updating of Comprehensive
Plan
Chairman Andrews polled the Commissioners to see how each was
coming with their assigned project. George Vick, Keith Van Dine
and Merwin Willman reported, having had several false starts.
Gary Bricken suggested they come back to the subject at the next
meeting, if it's convenient, and extend the deadline. Harry
Bauman said the goals and objectives were as far as he got. Jim
Shriver indicated he is working on it and Chairman Andrews
reported he had done a lot of reading on the subject, but hadnlt
progressed too far yet.
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Harry Bauman asked how the Commission is going to compile the
information they gather and Jim Shriver commented on the need for
a standard format.
Chairman Andrews requested that further discussion on the
updating of the Comprehensive Plan be placed on the agenda of the
Special Session which will follow the joint public hearing on
April 2, 1991.
#7 GENERAL DISCUSSION
George Vick:
(a) Reported that George Mower, on the corner of Brooks and
Lindbergh, has hung rags on his vehicles over the license plates.
It was asked if Mr. Mower appealed his case and Steve Simonson
said yes he did. Mr. Simonson related that the City Manager
received a letter from him and he will provide the Commissioners
with a copy of the letter at the next meeting.
Merwin Willman:
(a) Advised the Commission it is the til\\e of year when they
should be thinking about the budget, and sp~cifically whether or
not they need a consultant to help with the updating of the
Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Willman also mentioned that as far as the budget, to keep in
mind the City pays for their trip to the APA conference every
year.
Steve Simonson noted there are two areas they should look at
carefully subscriptions and consul tants. Subscriptions have
gone up in recent years and consultants are expensive.
Chairman Andrews asked steve Simonson if he could provide a copy
for the Commission, by the next meeting, of the expenditures for
last year. Mr. Simonson indicated he saw no problem with that.
George Vick remarked that at all the APA conferences he had
attended, the other representatives he had spoken with from
various cities indicated they had consultants help them with
their comprehensive plans.
Harry Bauman mentioned that you can get assistance
universities.
from
Keith Van Dine asked if the City couldn I t set up an intern
program whereby the student gets credit for helping the City.
Chairman Andrews asked if anyone knows where to check about these
things.
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Harry Bauman, Keith Van Dine and Merwin Willman all said they had
contacts they \\'oldd check with about this.
( b ) I n d J cat e ,1 h (:~ h 0 U 1 d '\,v (> r k 0 n d. 1 i s t 0 f <) u ide 1 i n est hat s b 0 U 1 d
be included in the Appendixes of the Rules of Procedures.
(c) Rer.larked that contrary to Steve Simonson 1 s notes to the
Commission, the portable sign at Kountry Kitchen had not yet been
removed. Steve Simonson apologized for the mistake.
(d) The business on Main St. with too many slgn on FM 78 still
has too I:lany signs. steve Simonson reported the inspectors had
given the business a 30 day notice.
(e) Asked Norma Althouse if she had been able to get a copy of
the agreement between the City and the Resurrection Baptist
Church. Mrs. Althouse reported she had asked the City Secretary
about it and had been informed the lawyers are sti II in the
process of working on the final document.
Jim Shriver:
(a) Told the Commissioners they have before them (it was in their
packages) the final copy of the memorandum containing information
for newly appointed members.
(b) Asked that discussion .of the Information Sheet for Citizens
Applying For the City of Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission,
which Mr. Shriver had compiled and a copy of which had been in
their packages, be placed on the agenda of the next regularly
scheduled meeting.
(c) Said he had received a letter from APA,
Division and asked if we pay dues to them.
replied we do not.
the Sa n
Merwin
Antonio
Willman
Chairman Andrews:
(a) Reminded everyone there is a joint public hearing scheduled
for April 2, 1991 on a change to the Zoning Ordinance regarding
political slgns.
(b) Noted the package on site plans has been signed and forwarded
to City Council.
(c) Asked Councilperson Ken Greenwald if, when Tom Weaver briefed
City Council, did he say the City could grow as far as having
room for Dore waste.
Mr. Greenwald responded by saying because of where CCMA
discharges, the level of waste 1S very, very sl ight. If an
industry came into Schertz that was dirty (had a lot of waste),
it would be required to build a pre-treatment plant.
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Mr. Greenwald further stated, however, that if the business were
to locate along IH-35. the'y could possibly tie into the Ne\\:
B rau.nf e 1 s s ~-s tem whe re the di scha rge 1"a te is a lot highe r.
Steve Sinonson:
(a) Informed the Commission the plans for a McDonald's Restaurant
on IH-35 are moving along. Nr. Simonson warned t.he Commission
they may be asking for a tall s1gn.
Chairman Andre\-vs mentioned a June 10th conference in Atlanta,
Georgia on the AICUZ and said the only problem is money - it's
$450 per person.
Merwin Willman, referring to the notices the Commission has been
getting about meetings of the San Antonio APA Chapter, asked if
it's something they should pursue. Theylre supposed to cover 21
counties.
steve Simonson observed that if they start attending, maybe they
could ask for specific agenda items pertaining to Schertz.
#8 ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Andrews adjourned the meting at 10:10 P.M.
A Joint Public Hearing is scheduled for April 2, 1991.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is April 9, 1991.
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