10-23-2001 n/s Planning and Zoning Meeting
Tuesday, October 23, 2001
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in Regular session on Tuesday,
October 23, 2001 at 7:OOpm in the Municipal Complex Bob Andrews Conference Room,
1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF
David Richmond-Chairman Ron Youngblood, City Planner
Ernie Evans, Vice-Chair Mary Ybarra, Recording Secretary
Tony Moreno Leonard Truitt, Building Official
Gary Wallace
Joyce Briscoe
Ken Greenwald, ex-officio
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT
William Sommers Larry Aiken, Austin, Texas
Keith Van Dine Don McCrary, San Antonio, Texas
Robert Brockman, 4505 Grand Forest Drive
Mickey Conrad, 4039 Broadway, SA, TX
Ed Garza, 4039 Broadway, SA, TX
Barry Sanditen, Austin, Texas
#1 Call to Order:
Chairman Richmond called the meeting of October 23, 2001 to order at 7:OOpm.
#2 Citizens input other than agenda items:
There were none.
#3 Status of Final Plats:
Chairman Richmond reported that two final plats have been signed, Security Service
Federal Credit Union (SSFCU) and Wynn Brook Unit 1.
#4 BOA Actions:
Chairman Richmond noted there was a Board of Adjustment meeting October 22"d to
consider the two items that Planning and Zoning forwarded to them. The request from Mr.
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Palmer to increase his roof height was disapproved and the request from Janis Hofman for
a deck and arbor was approved.
#5 Consider and take appropriate action: On a request from Don McCrary &
Associates for final plat approval correcting lot 10, block 4 of Oak Trail Unit 2A.
Mr. Youngblood stated that this plat was granted preliminary plat approval at the last
meeting on October 11, 2001, and that city staff has no concerns and recommends
approval.
Chairman Richmond commented this is pretty straightforward and he doesn't see any
problem with the request.
Without further discussion, Mr. Wallace moved to approve the request from Don McCrary &
Associates for final plat approval correcting lot 10, block 4 of Oak Trail Unit 2A. Mrs.
Briscoe seconded the motion. With a vote being taken, the motion was approved.
#6 Consider and take appropriate action: On a request from Don McCrary &
Associates for final plat approval correcting all 10' front setback easements being 38.625
acres previously platted as Jonas Woods Subdivision to 20' front building setback.
Mr. Youngblood reported that on October 11, 2001 when Planning and Zoning looked at the
preliminary plat, there were two minor errors; the topographical information was missing and
the property owners of the adjacent properties were not included. These issues have been
corrected and staff recommends approval.
Mr. Wallace asked if the fees have been paid. Ms. Ybarra, planning secretary, replied yes,
they have been paid.
Without further discussion, Mr. Moreno moved to approve the request from Don McCrary &
Associates .for final plat approval correcting all 10' front setback easements .being 38.625
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acres previously platted as Jonas Woods Subdivision to 20' front building setback. Mr.
Wallace seconded the motion. With a vote being taken, the motion was approved.
#7 Consider and take appropriate action: On a request from Don McCrary &
Associates for final plat approval of Wynn Brook Subdivision Unit 2.
Mr. Youngblood noted that at the October 11~' meeting, there were three minor errors on the
preliminary plat and those items were con-ected. Now there are concems on other issues;
five-foot sanitary/sewer easement between lots 24 & 25 should be ten-foot, plat shows the
12-foot sanitary/sewer out-fall (lines going between lots 9 & 10), and notes indicate the
sewer lines between 10 & 11. He also noted that the CCMA signature block is missing from
the document. At this time, staff recommends disapproval.
There was some discussion regarding these issues and Mr. McCrary noted that the out-fall
should be between lots 9 & 10 and the plat would have to reflect that change.
Mr. Truitt, building official, suggested placing a "note" statement on the plat with regards to
the drainage of lots 9 and 10.
Without further discussion, Mr. Moreno moved to disapprove the request from Don McCrary
& Associates for final .plat approval of Wynn Brook Subdivision Unit 2. Mr. Wallace
seconded the motion. With a vote being taken, the motion was approved.
#8 Consider and take appropriate action: On a request from O'Neil Conrad Opplet for
site plan approval of Good Shepherd Catholic Church, Live Oak Road.
Mr. Youngblood reported this is the first time Planning and Zoning has seen this request.
Staff has no concems and recommends approval.
Mr. Evans stated there is a statement regarding a future freestanding sign; however, the
sign should be on the site plan and it is not. He noted no sign would be approved tonight.
He also asked for clarification on what the word "trailer" indicates.
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Mr. Mickey Conrad, representative for the development, stated the "trailer" is the church's
existing office. When the development is complete, the church would be moving their office
(trailer) to the area indicated on the site plan (marked church office trailer).
Chairman Richmond asked why would the church want to move a trailer to such a nice
facility. Mr. Conrad explained it would be temporary because of funding not available to
build a new office building. Part of the future master plan is a new building. Chairman
Richmond asked how long is "temporary"? Mr. Conrad reported he could not answer that
question, he does not know how long it would be there.
Mr. Conrad stated he understands that if the Church would like to place a sign, it would
have to come back to Planning and Zoning to get approval. Chairman Richmond suggested
the sign could be a small berm type sign.
There was some discussion and concern about the sign issue not identified as part of the
site plan, and Planning and Zoning, therefore, granting approval on an incomplete site plan.
Mr. Youngblood noted there ~ is a new City policy that states that all signs need to come
through the Planning and Zoning Commission to get approval.
Mr. Evans commented this is a nice layout and they did a good job on the landscaping.
Chairman Richmond commented that it would be nice to have something from the church in
regards to how long the trailer would be located on the property. He noted the trailer would
be very visible from FM 3009 due to the high elevation of the property..
Mr. Truitt, building official, noted that a permit could be obtained for a temporary structure
and a time limit imposed which would enable the permit to be monitored very closely. The
temporary permit has a limit of 120 days. The Commission could make this a stipulation in
their motion.
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Without further discussion, Mr. Wallace moved to approve the request from O'Neil Conrad
Opplet for site plan approval of Good Shepherd Catholic Church, Live Oak Road. Mr.
Moreno seconded the motion.
Mr. Moreno asked if the Commission could include the discussion regarding the sign issue
as part of the motion. The Commission was in agreement.
Mr. Wallace then withdrew his motion.
At this time, Mr. Moreno moved to approve the request from O'Neil Conrad Opplet for site
plan approval of Good Shepherd Catholic Church, Live Oak Road to include the fact that no
sign request is included and any future sign request must come to Planning and Zoning,
and that movement of the church office trailer to the new site would be done only on a
temporary permit with time limit monitored closely by the City Building Official. Mr. Wallace
seconded the motion. With a vote being taken, the motion was approved as follows:
AYES: Commissioners Richmond, Evans, Moreno and Wallace
NAYS: Commissioner Briscoe
#9 Discussion by Barry Sanditen:
1. Wiederstein Road
2. Forest Ridge Subdivision Unit 6
Mr. Sanditen briefly talked about the east side of the road and showed the Commission a
map and locations to answer several questions that were asked. He noted that LCRA took
over a portion of the land which jeopardized the estate lot setbacks of Unit 6. He stated
there originally was a 50-foot buffer agreement between 3009 Partners and the Deer Haven
subdivision. Mr. Sanditen noted Unit 5A has been approved and asked the status of Unit
5B.
Mr. Youngblood explained that Unit 5B, which includes a portion of the Live Oak
Subdivision, is going to be considered a vacate and replat.
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Mr. Sanditen stated that the drainage issues have been addressed by Ford Engineering and
that Ford has also performed an extensive drainage study.
#10 Items by Commissioner and City Planner:
Ron Youngblood
Informed the Commission that the Comprehensive Land Use Plan meeting for October 29,
2001 has been cancelled and rescheduled for November 15th at 6:30pm in the Police
Department training room. Board of Adjustment members are going to be invited as well.
Chairman Richmond added briefly that minor obstacles in the Comprehensive Land Use
Plan process would result in a delay of five or six weeks from the original calendar.
Ken Greenwald:
1. Discuss and update on the Annexation of MUD No. 1 & 2 (Northcliffe and Scenic
Hills).
Mr. Greenwald noted there are only two small sections (subdivisions) that are developed.
There is a total of 805 plus acres, but only about 2 acres are built out. He pointed out on
the map that was provided which areas are in Cibolo's ETJ, and added that Cibolo is willing
to trade some ETJ. There will be a joint meeting of Schertz and Cibolo City Councils on
Thursday, November 1St at GVEC. He noted the first public hearing was October 16~' and
no citizens were present to speak on the annexation issue; however, City officials spoke
with citizens prior to the public hearing and answered questions before the process started.
He noted even after adding City of Schertz taxes, the citizens would be saving between
$400-800.00 a year.. The garbage and water rates for these citizens will. go down about
50%.
2. Discuss and update on the SchertzJSeguin Local Government Corporation.
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Mr. Greenwald reported there are only 18 easements left to complete the project. The
entire project was supposed to be completed by the end of November 2001. He noted the
18 easements are in the surrounding areas. KGME (contractor) is only about 10% complete
and should be at 40%. There were a lot of problems with KGME, the pipe line was at the
wrong direction, it was not deep enough, workers on the project were not as knowledgeable
as the they should have been, etc. For the most part though, the project is moving along
nicely.
Chairman Richmond then asked for any comments or statements of fact from the
Commissioners.
Mr. Moreno had none.
Mr. Wallace had none.
Mrs. Briscoe asked about the Bob Boomer property and the sign saying "Victoria Oaks".
The Commission was not sure what it was. She also noted there are new Marlboro signs in
HEB parking lot, around some light poles and asked if that is permissible. Mr. Truitt stated
he would look into it. Chairman Richmond thought those types of signs were only permitted
at a grand opening.
Mr. Youngblood stated he appreciated the pizza brought in from Mr. Brockman.
Mr. Evans would like to hear about the Schertz Bank and Trust banner signs up for four
months without action.
Chairman Richmond commented on the flag sign in Forest Ridge. It was noted the sign is
going to be coming down.
#11 Adjournment: There being no further business to discuss, Chairman Richmond
adjourned the meeting at 8:30pm.
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Chairman, Planning and Zoning Commission
ATTESTe
Planning Secretary, City of Schertz
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