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pDANNING ANY? ~ONIItiTG MINIITES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular
session on Tuesday, November 14, Z9°9 at 7;00 P.M. in the
Municipal Complex Conference Room, 1400 Schertz Parkway. Those
present were as follows:
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION .OTHERS PRESENT
JOE POTEMPA, VICE-CHAIRMAN TONY BAGWELL,
KEITH VAN DINE, SECRETARY RIMROCK CO~V'SULTING
MERWIN WILLMAN MICKEY FISHBECK,
BOB ANDREWS RIMROCIi CONSULTING
GEORGE VICK JAMES ANDERSON, ETJ REP.
JIM SHRIVER HOOVER EDWARDS
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILPERSON ROD & KAREN ULIN
MICKI COMBS
MEMBERS ABSENT
CITY STAFF
TY BRISGILL, CHAIRMAN
STEVE SIMONSOK', ASST.
CITY MANAGER
NORMA ALTHOUSE,
RECORDING SECY.
JOHN BIERSCHWALE,
WATER/FnTASTEWATER SUPT.
PAUL DENHAM, FORD ENG.
#1 CALL TO ORDER
In the absence of Chairman Ty Brisgill, Vice-Chairman Joe Potempa
called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
#2 EXEC®TIVY? SESSION: Called Under Article 6252-17, Vernon`s
Texas Civil Statutes, Section 2 (g) for
Briefing by Rimrock Consulting Co. to
the SB336 Advisory Committee and
Support Staff Regarding the Study cn
Capital Reccvery Fces
Vice-Chairman Potempa announced there will not be an executive
session - the briefing from Rimrock Consulting will be held as an
open session.
Tony Bagcaell and Micl~ey Fishbeck of Rimrock Consulting were
present at the meeting.
Tony Bagwell explained to the Commission the purpose of their
task is to bring utility fees into compliance with SB~3b passed
by the legislature, and the deadline for doing this is June 20,
1930.
Mickey Fishbeck informed the Commission there are impact fees for
(1) water, (2) sewer, (3) local roadways, and (4) drainage. Tl-~e
only exemptions are on-site roadways and in certain circumstances
developers who are constructing or oversizing water/sewer lines.
Ms. Fishbeck related that the process for the Commission will be
in two steps. The first step is to look_ at land use assumptions
and the second step will be the development of a CIP (Capital
Improvements Plan) on which the fees are based and the
establishment of the fees themselves.
Ms. Fishbeck commented it is the Commission's legislative
responsibility to file written comments five working days before
the second public hearing is held. Ms. Fishbeck continued on
saying they will be developing a record for the City in case of
legal developments in the future. She also commented that after
three years, the City must look at the CIP and see if the fees
need to be updated.
Tony Bagwell pointed out that Rimrock's role in this process is
to provide technical information and to coordinate everything.
Jim Shriver asked, if after the initial CIP is developed, will
this be an ongoing process. Tony Bagwell replied it should be
reviewed twice a year.
Jim Shriver then asked if at the end of three years the City will
need to hire another consultant. Mickey Fishbeck said not
necessarily.
Tony Bagwell emphasized they are leaving behind a notebook method
of procedure so that possibly the nett time the process needs to
be done it can be done on an in-house basis.
Bob Andrews mentioned reviewing the plan every three years, five
years, etc. and Mickey Fishbeck informed him it can be updated
whenever the City feels it needs to be.
Merwin Willman remarked he had noticed in his reading that if a
developer overpaid, the City= has to refund, but if a developer
underpaid, the City can't ask for more.
Tony Bagwell commented you can deduct from th«t it is a developer
legislation.
Steve Simonson asked if we`re only looping at water. Tony
Bagwell replied they had been assigned caater;ctiastewater. Mr.
Bagwell said there had been some talk about drainage, but it had
been put on hold until a future time. Mr. Bagwell indicated that
is something the City will need to decide.
Steve Simonson- then asked if we're locked into c:nly water!se~.er
and Tony Bagwell answered the Council could amend their
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assignment and the work would probably require about an extra
thirty minutes per meeting. Mr. Bagwell noted that for the
current workload, it is probably going to require six meetings
and two public hearings.
Councilperson Ken Greenwald suggested having Steve Simonson get
together with Tony Bagwell and work out a schedule for the
meetings starting from the cut-off date and working backwards.
Bob Andrews made a motion to recommend that Steve Simonson get
together with Council and Tony Bagwell and work out a schedule
for the meetings starting from the cut-off date and working
backwards. Merwin Willman seconded the motion and the vote was
unanimous in favor. Motion carried.
Tony Bagwell reminded the Commission they are specifically
charged as the Advisory Committee which is a planning exercise to
come up with reasonable fees. Mr. Bagwell stressed the need to
be careful about unit cost.
At this time John Bierschwale reviewed the Capital Recovery Fee
Ordinance and explained the current process used by the City for
these fees. Mr. Bierschwale said the way the fees are structured
now they are based on square footage.
Tony Bagwell asked when the fees are collected and John
Bierschwale replied-when the permit is issued.
Tony Bagwell gave a few examples of how other cities collect
their fees.
Merwin Willman suggested reviewing what the City currently has
and then seeing if a change is needed.
Tony Bagwell told the Commission that for every $1.00 in cash
collected in impact fees and applied to construction, you can
avoid about 220% of money that wo~,~ld hac>e gone into the rights.
This concluded the briefing by Rimrock Consulting Company.
~3 COTI~SIDER AI1TD "~dAIiR RECOMP2RI~DATIO~: Planni;.g and Zoning's
Recommendation as a Result of the Briefing
from Rimrock Consulting Co.
Since there was not an Executive Session, Item r3 ceas deleted.
Vice-Chairman Potempa introduced James Anderson, the ETJ
Representative to the Advisory Committee appointed by City
Council.
•At this time the Commission took a five-minute break.
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#4 APPROVAh O~° MINIITES: Regular Session October 24, 1989
George Vick made a motion to approve the minutes for the regular
session October 24, 1989. Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and
the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion carried.
CITIZENS' INPUT OTHER TIIAN AGENDA ITEMS
There was none.
#6 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Request from Hoover
Edwards for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance to Allow Placement of a Mobile
Home, for Security Reasons, Next to the
Cancessian Stand on the OId Starlight
Theater Grounds i
Vice-Chairman Potempa asked for Staff input.
'Steve Simonson informed the Commission a similar request from
Hoover Edwards had been handled previously through the Board of
Adjustment. Mr. Simonson said since the Commission cannot grant
a variance to the Zoning Ordinance, it is his suggestion they
recommend this request to Council for a Board of Adjustment
hearing.
Hoover Edwards was present at the meeting and briefly explained
the reason for his .request. Mr. Edwards explained he had stored
some PVC pipe on the grounds and some of it was stolen. Mr.
Edwards said there is a timed light in the mobile home. Also, Mr.
Edwards assured the Commission he will keep up the property, and
he cculd get letters from surrounding businesses who like the
idea of a mobile home in the area for security reasons.
Vice-Chairman Potempa asked Mr. Edwards if he is going tc use the
mobile home for a storage facility and he replied he will use it
for security.
Jim Shrivex• asked if someone is going to live in the mobile home
and Mr. Edwards replied there will be someone there at night.
Bob Andrews asked if there is sewer on the property and Hoover
Edwards replied there is a septic tank.
Bob Andrews noted that at the time the City Council approved Mr.
Edwards' previous request, they had asked fcr his help in ~
removing the movie screen. Mr. Andrews wanted to know the status
of the screen.
Hoover Edwards reported the screen to be in good shape and
expressed hopes of opening up a movie business again, sometime in
the future.
G:~orge Vick mentioned them are three mcbile hor..~es, not onn.
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f~ocver Edwards said he is just requesting one mobile home on the
ol:l Starlight Theater grounds ar,cl spoke of his cooperation with
th.. request from Tam Dovey to move two of his mol:ile homes from
Schertz Parkway when there were visitors touring the City°.
Nierwin Willman pointed out the Bciard c; f_ Adjustment had granted
Mr. Edwards` previous request for eighteen ra~~nths and had
stipulated three other considerations, so he feels this request
should go back to the Board of Adjustment.
Bob Andrews made a motion to recommend the request from Hoover
Edwards for a variance to the Zoning `Ordinance to allo~,T placement
of a mobile home, for security reasons, next to .the concession
stand on the old Starlight Theater grounds be for~,~ardtid to City
Council for scheduling of a hearing before the Board of_
Adjustment.
Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in
favor. Motion carried.
Steve Simonson told Hoover Edwards he will send him a letter with
all the information regarding the Commission`s recommendation.
m7 C®irdSIDER APrdD TAKE APPI2t3PRIATE ACTIQN: Request from Roderic
Ulin of 117 Valley Oak for an Extension of
Time to Comply caith the Junked Vehicle
Ordinance
Roderic and Karen Ulin were at the meeting to represent this
request.
Vice-Chairman Potempa asked for Staff input. Steve Simonson said
he thought it would be best if Rod Ulin explained his situation.
Rod Ulin explained that, before he can take care of the vehicle
in violation, the matter at hand is the paying off cf a lean on
an '84 Lincoln for which an 'O1 Buick was used as collateral.
Mr. Ulin said the Buick was registered in l-~is rlotl.er`s name and
the Lincoln was registered in his father's name and both parents
are now deceased. Mr. Ulin said before his father`s death he had
been appointed his guardian. Mr. Ulin further stated that
because his father had let the insurance Iapse cn the Lincoln,
there are some r_omplications with the bank as far as the credit
life insurance is concerned.
Bob Andrews asked how long ago Rod Ulin had been appointed
guardian and Mr. Ulin said approximately one year.
Merwin Willman asked Rod Clin how long he thought it ~,-ould take
to straighten out this complication. Mr. Ulin replied hopefully
,ur'ithin a couple of weeks. Mr. Ulin indicated his attorney has
written a letter to the Schortz Banl~.
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Bob Andrews asked why not table the request until the next
meeting. Merwin `iVillman wondered why not table it for sixty
days.
Bob Andrews made a motion to table the request from Roderir_ Ulin
of 117 Valley Oak for an extension of time tc comply with the
Junked Vehicle Ordinance for sixty days at which time the vehicle
in violation will have to be moved, sold, disposed of cr made
legal.
Merwin taillman seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in
favor. Motion carried.
Bab Andrews requested Rcd Ulin`s attorney's address as a courtesy
tc the Commission.
Steve Simonson told Rod Ulin he will send him a letter outlining
the Commission's recommendations. Mr. Simonson also asked Mr.
Ulin to let him know before the 60 days are up if he sees a
prcblem in resolving the situation within this time frame.
'~8 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Micki L.
Combs of 5214 Irola Drive for an Extension of
Time to Comply with the Junked Vehicle
Ordinance
Micki Combs was at the meeting to represent this request.
Vice-Chairman Potempa asked for Staff input, but Steve Simonson
said there was none.
Mir_]zi Combs told the Commission her situation and said she
thought she had pretty much explained it in her letter. Ms.
Combs said she had a trucking business, but her partner left her
"holding the bag" financially and she is unable to come up with
the funds to get her vehicles into compliance with the ordinance.
Bob Andrews asked Ms. Combs if she had made any attempts to sell
the truck and she said yes she had. Ms. Combs also informed the
Commission a Dorothy Breezee holds a note on the truck.
George Vick asked if she had advertised. Micki Combs replied she
had not advertised, she is not living at the address and she
can't afford storage.
Vice-Chairman Potempa asked Ms. Combs who is feeding her dogs and
she replied she is - several times a week.
Vice-Chairman Potempa then asked Ms. Combs when the truck was
towed into her yard and she replied probably in October of 1900.
Micki Combs commented she did not understand why the Cougar had
been called a nuisance. Vine-Chairman Potempa read her the
definition from the Code of Ordinances. Ms. Combs said the car
is not visible unless you go right up to her property.
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Vice-Chairman Potempa mentioned the first letter cahich was sent
and not claimed making it necessary for the City to send a second
letter. Micki Combs remarked she does not. pick up her mail every
day, so the yellow slip of notification from the Post Office
might have blown away.
Keith Van Dine asked if she had looked into selling her ruck on
consignment. Ms. Combs said she had, but the vehicle has to be
in running order.
Leonard Truitt, Asst. City Inspector, spoke at this time saying
Fahen the City sent the letter to Ms. Combs they were not aware
there was a personal lien on the vehicle. Mr. Truitt remarked
they have not sent a letter tc the lienholder.
After a brief discussion about the lien, Bob Andrews made a
motion to table the request from Mic)zi L. Combs of 5214 Irola
Drive for an extension of time to comply with the Junked Vehicle
Ordinance until. the Inspection Department has notified all
'effected parties.
Keith Van Dine seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in
favor. Motion carried.
Steve Simonson informed Micki Combs he will send her a letter
verifying the Commission's recommendations.
Vice-Chairman Potempa asked what action the City will take if
there is no response from Dorothy Breezee. Steve Simonson
replied there are two options - either have the vehicle tossed
away or issue a citation.
~9 CQNSIDER AND NdAIiE I2ECO~NFMEN9»TION: Discussion of Concurrent
Zoning for the 5 New Territories Being
Proposed for Annexation
Steve Simonson related the City would like to close up some areas
that anticipate development. Mr. Simonson said problems arise
when part of an area is in the City limits and part of it is not.
Mr. Simonson said tract n1 includes Stone Creek R.V. Park, tract
n5 includes the Gutierrez landfill, George Barnard's property,
two tracts along Dietz Creels and FM 7°, and tracts ~2,tt3, and =4
are areas the City wishes to close in. Mr. Simonson reminded the
Commission the zoning can be done simultaneously with the
annexation.
Merwin Willman suggested an M-1 zoning for tract rl.
Bab Andrews remarked it could be zoned M-1 with a Specific Use
Permit for the R.V. Park.
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Steve Simonson advised the Commission he had heard Stone Creek
R.V. Park is filing bankruptcy and suggested maybe Floyd Mchee
should be contacted to see what type of bankruptcy.
Merwin Willman pointed out the Commission should be thinking
about what the best use is fox- the land.
Steve Simonson commented tract ~l could be zoned M-1 and what is
currently there stays there as a nonconforming use.
Merwin Willman then suggested that tracts n2, ~3 and n4 be zoned
RA (Residential/Agriculture).
For tract n5, Steve Simonson suggested a combination of GB below
FM 78 and PD for the rest which would include the landfill, two
farms and some property of George Barnard's.
Bob Andrews made a motion to recommend to City Council that tract
~1 be zoned Light Manufacturing (M-1), tracts r2, n3 and ~4 be
zoned Residential/Agriculture (RA) and tract #5 be zoned
Predeveiopment (PD) with the exception of that small portion
south of FM 78 which is recommended to be~zoned General Business
(GB) to conform to the surrounding zoning along the south side of
FM 78. It was also recommended this zoning run concurrently with
the annexation px•ocess.
George Vick seconded the motion and the vote caas unanimous in
favor. Motion carried.
#~Q GENERAL QISCUSSION
Bob Andrews•
(a) Noticed a Cibolo garage sale sign at Wuest's last weekend.
Can the City do anything about signs like this? {Steve Simonson
said if the signs are illegal, then the City can take them down.)
F:eith Van Dine:
{a) The citizens of the Schirmerville area are pleased that the
holes in Pfeil Road have been filled in. The City did, however,
miss a hole on Ware-Seguin. (Steve Simonson said he is sure they
will fix_ the one on Ware-Seguin.)
Jim Shriver-
(a) Referred to the letter in his package from John Lund and
asked Steve Simonson if he is happy with Mr. Lund's ansc4er.
(Steve Simonson said no he is not.)
,It'b) Asked the question again about needing more consultants in
three.years for the impact fees. Councilpcrson hen Greenwald said
the possibility exists, but supposedly Rimrcck C^nsulting is
leaving software behind with the basic format and information.
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(c) Asked why the sessions with Rimrcck consulting can't be
scheduled at the end of the regular meetings instead of the
beginning.
Steve Simonson said the Advisory Committee could be scheduled
first and the people on the agenda for the regular session could
be told not to come until about 8:OQ P.M.
Mr. Shr.iver said he still prefers the sessi::n with Rimrcck
Consulting at the end.
A poll cf the other members was taken, and with the exception of
Bob Andrews, they alI preferred to have the sessions with Rimrcck
Consulting at the end.
Steve Simonson advised the Commission he will inform Tcny Bagcaell
of their wishes.
George Vick•
(a) Had noticed the dead cow on Schertz Parkway today. (Steve
Simonson said they had to find a rendering company to remove it
and their charge is $45.00.)
(b) Commented on the basketball court set up at the bac)z of
Mobile Villa and was told by vice-Chairman Pctempa he had put it
there a number of years ago.
Mertain [n~illman:
(a) Asked the status of Lon Decker's proposed Pamela Subdivision.
(Steve Simonson said he hadn't heard.)
Steve Simonson:
(a) Asked the Commissioners how many of them know Jeff Gaston and
then related a story about a 300 pound pig that got loose this
past week and how everyone expected Jeff tc be able to capture
it. Mr. Simonson said finally a nic°c man offered the use cf his
equipment tc help, but they found the pig had t4andered away and
no one has seen it sine .
Councilperson Greenwald:
(a) Both the Ccmmissien and the Council received copies in their
packages of an article on "Green Spaces" which t,-as in the Sunday
Express News.
(b) Back some time ago a 10' front yard setback variance teas
granted tc Savannah Square and new when the residents park their
-cars in their •urivetaays, the cars hang out over the edge. ^1r.
Greencaald said to ]ieep things life this i.n mind when considering
granting a variance.
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(c) Asked if there were any significant developments from the
meeting on Jack Hays Boulevard.
Steve Simonson reported the City now has a right-of-way map and
will be contacting sixteen landowners. Mr. Simonson said they
will move along as fast as they can, but the Highway Department
is estimating betcaeen eighteen months and two years before the
process is completed.
(d) According to the paper they are going to let tre contract on
IH-35 with construction to start in January.
Steve Simonson commented the widening of FM 7° is still moving
forward, but it will take some time. Mr. Simcnscr, said the
railroad will grant the 20 feet.
Vice-Chairman Potempa:
ta) Mentioned the letter from Debbie Moeller of Pacific Southwest
' Bank and said he hopes something can be worked out between the
parties involved.
(b) Asked if there's any way the City can request the company
working along the IH-35 access road to get a flagman. (Steve
Simonson said he will check with Mr. Sweatt.)
(c) There's a new business on IH-35 near Maureen Busby called All
r Time Tire Changers.
Before the meeting was adjourned, ,.Tim Shriver asked if anyone
knows anything about the "Classic Car Museum". He ~~,~as informed
by a couple of the members it is in no man's land.
X11 ADJOURNMENT
Bob Andrews made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Jim Shriver
seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous in favor. Motion
carried.
Vice-Chairman Potempa adjourned the meeting at 9:~4 P.M.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is November 2°, 19°9.
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