04-11-1995 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission conducted a public
hearing on Tuesday, April 11, 1995 at 7:00 p.m. in the Municipal
Complex Council Chambers, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas.
Those present were as follows:
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION CITY STAFF
PIA JARMAN, CHAIRMAN STEVE SIMONSON,
DAVID RICHMOND, VICE-CHAIRMAN ASST. CITY MANAGER
MERWIN WILLMAN, SECRETARY DENISE GRANGER,
TONY MORENO PLANNING SECRETARY
BOB ANDREWS
KEN GREENWALD, COUNCILMAN
MEMBERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT
Keith Van Dine (Death in Family) Harry Jewett, Cellular
Ernie Evans (Work Related) One
Randy Burch, Burch
Roofing
Eddie Donhauser, Town
and Country Body
Shop
Wanda Koch
~l CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Pia Jarman called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Mrs.
Jarman explained the procedures to be followed at the public
hearing, and thanked the citizens for coming to show their
concerned interest. The City Council's public hearing on these
same items will be held April 18, 1995.
~2 PUBLIC HEARING:
1. To Receive Citizen Input on a Request from Joe Veytia, Veytia
Partners, Ltd. for the Rezoning of Approximately 1.543 Acres from
R-4 (Apartment/Multi-Family) to R-6 (Single Family Dwelling
District) (ZC #116)
(1) Variance from authorized lot size 60' X 100' to proposed
typical lots of 50' X 120' in depth.
(2) Variance to front yard setback requirement of 25' to 20' front
yard setback, permitting an alleyway for entrance in the rear,
with 15' separation between all buildings.
Chairman Jarman asked for Staff input. Steve Simonson reported
that fourteen (14) letters had been sent to the surrounding land
owners within 200', four (4) letters were returned with all four
(4) of them being in favor of the rezoning.
There being no further questions or discussion, the Public Hearing
for Item 1 was closed.
2. To Receive Citizen Input on a Request from the Citv of Schertz
for the Rezoning of Approximately 1000' south of Lower Seguin Road
(FM 1518) to 1000' north of IH 10 from GB (General Business) to
Residential/Agriculture. (ZC #117)
Chairman Jarman asked for Staff input. Steve Simonson reported
that twenty-five (25) letters had been sent to the surrounding land
owners within 200', five (5) letters were returned with three (3)
in favor and two (2) opposed.
Bob Andrews asked if the opposed gave any rationale on why they
were against the rezoning.
Steve Simonson advised that one (1) person stated due to having no
sewer in the area that with GB (General Business) it would be
better for development than a lot of houses due to the sewer
problem. Another comment was that it serves no purpose because it
discourages the development of the area for GB (General Business).
The comments for the ones in favor felt that all the GB (General
Business) need not be in that area.
Pia Jarman advised that the recent requests that have been coming
before the Planning and Zoning Commission have been for Specific
Use Permits for Private Residences.
Steve Simonson stated that the requests have been for Specific Use
Permits. So far the only development is a church, and a single
family residence in the area at this time. The area that is being
considered for the rezoning issue at this time does not have one
(1) GB (General Business) in the area.
Pia Jarman questioned if the rezoning would affect the ones that
are already there.
Steve Simonson advised that there are no businesses in the area if
you go back to Residential/Agriculture the homes are a conforming
use.
Merwin Willman asked what the depth of the area is. Steve Simonson
stated it is 500' in depth.
Wanda Koch asked for clarification where this property is exactly.
Steve Simonson advised that it is 1000' south of Lower Seguin Road
(FM 1518) to 1000' north of IH 10. All the other remaining land in
between these two (2) points which is now GB (General Business)
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would revert back to Residential/Agriculture if it is approved.
There being no further questions or discussion, the public hearing
for Item 2 was closed.
#4 ADJOURNMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING:
Chairman Pia Jarman adjourned the public hearing for all of the
above items at 7:10 p.m.
The Schertz Planning and Zoning Commission convened in a regular
session, after the public hearing, in the Municipal Complex
conference room, 1400 Schertz Parkway, Schertz, Texas.
#5 CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Pia Jarman called the meeting to order at 7:14 p.m.
#6 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Session March 28, 1995
David Richmond referred to page 8, 5th and 6th paragraphs from the
bottom change the words would benefit to had benefitted and add the
words so far after Schertz.
Bob Andrews moved to approve the March 28, 1995 Regular Session
Minutes with the corrections. Merwin Willman seconded the motion,
which carried with a unanimous vote.
#7 CITIZENS: INPUT OTHER THAN AGENDA ITEMS
Eddie Donhauser from Town and Country Body Shop asked if on the
next agenda for the next meeting if the Commission would watch a
film on advertisement balloons for the sign ordinance. Mr.
Donhauser stated that there isn't anything in the sign ordinance
pertaining to this and felt the City should look into this as it
could benefit the City and his company. The film is about ten (10)
to fifteen (15) minutes long.
Steve Simonson stated that Eddie Donhauser had inquired about this
shortly before the issue was discussed by the Commission on this
ordinance. He had at the time an inflatable on his property. The
City Inspectors were sent to Town and Country to discuss that this
type of advertising was not allowed at this time per the ordinance.
Mr. Donhauser asked how he would go about getting the ordinance
changed. Steve Simonson advised him on the procedures of coming
before the Commission for a request.
Pia Jarman asked if the film could be reviewed at any time either
individually or in a group, it does not have to be done at a
. meeting.
Tony Moreno mentioned he would like the Commission to review the
film as a group.
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Bob Andrews agreed with Tony Moreno to review the film as a group
so any comments or suggestions could be discussed at the time. Bob
Andrews asked where the film came from.
Eddie Donhauser advised the film came from Sky View Company which
is the company he had rented the balloon from. This company has
spent about $10,000 to make this film available for cities to show
how it can benefit them. If the Commission felt they would like to
review either San Antonio, or Houston's sign ordinance he would get
them copies. Mr. Donhauser stated that San Antonio has at this
time revised their ordinance to accommodate the balloons to 21 days
per quarter.
Pia Jarman stated that the next meeting will again have a public
hearing and if time permits then the request from Eddie Donhauser
for the Commission to review the film will be on the agenda.
#8 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Request from Joe
Veytia, Veytia Partners, Ltd. Request
for Rezoning (ZC #116)
Pia Jarman stated that with no one opposing either on paper or in
person, are there any other comments from the Commissioners.
Bob Andrews for clarification reiterated this is just the rezoning
of the plat cognate to R-6 (Single Family Dwelling District) with
the two (2) variances.
Pia Jarman stated that is correct and asked Steve Simonson if he
had any other information to add. Steve Simonson had no other
information at this time to add.
Bob Andrews mentioned that the only thing he would like to add due
to reservations about just blanket approval of this area without a
stipulation of rear entrance garages or rear entrance homes being
built there. The property is listed in the MLS and with the real
estate people for 1400 square foot homes in the 80's built on
Schertz Parkway. It does not specify that the homes will have rear
entry. Ron Wood is specifying on his drawing that the homes will
have rear entry. Bob Andrews stated he would feel more comfortable
if it is stated in our recommendation that the homes will have rear
entrances so that there never will be eight (8) curb cuts on
Schertz Parkway.
Merwin Willman stated that when the platting comes before the
Commission it will be handled at that time. Merwin Willman advised
he also has some questions on other items that will be on the plat.
Pia Jarman advised that with the 1 foot non-access on Schertz
Parkway that would keep from any curb cuts being allowed.
Steve Simonson stated that it is clearly understood in the rezoning
through the platting process that there will be no curb cuts on
Schertz Parkway with the exception of the one (1) curb cut for the
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alleyway on to Mitchell.
Bob Andrews moved to approve the request from Joe Veytia, Veytia
Partners, Ltd. to rezone 1.543 acres on Schertz Parkway from R-4
(Apartment/Multi-Family) to R-6 (Single Family Dwelling District)
with the two (2) variances that were requested for lot size from
60' X 100' to proposed typical lots of 50' X 120' in depth,
variance for front yard setback requirement of 25' to 20' front
yard setback permitting the 26' alleyway for rear entrance, with
15' separation between all buildings, and there be a 1 foot
non-access easement on Schertz Parkway allowing only 1 (one} curb
cut on Schertz Parkway. Mervin Willman seconded that motion, which
carried with a unanimous vote.
~9 CONSIDER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION: Request from the City
of Schertz for the Rezoning of 1000'
south of Lower Seguin Road (FM 1518) to
1000' north of IH 10 from GB (General
Business) to Residential/Agriculture.
(ZC #117)
Pia Jarman stated that there being no input from citizens at the
public hearing, out of the five (5) letters that were returned
there were only two (2) letters received back from the property
owners that were opposed.
Mervin Willman moved to approve the request from the City of
Schertz to rezone 1000' south of Lower Seguin Road (FM 1518) to
1000' north of IH 10 from GB (General Business) to
Residential/Agriculture to the depth of 500'. Tony Moreno seconded
the motion, which carried with a unanimous vote.
#10 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Lawrence
Gill on behalf of Cellular One Antenna
for Site Plan Approval on FM 3009.
(PC #223-95)
Steve Simonson advised that this property does not have to be
replatted as it is located on private property. It is being leased
from Southwest Precast on FM 3009 with the entrance being the
second driveway closest to American Freightways if you were to
drive north on FM 3009. The key that needed to be confirmed was
that the FAA requirements were met and approved. That approval for
the antenna was included in the Commissioners' packets Southwest
Precast has a very large antenna on their property for their own
personal business. The antenna is outside of the flight zone
height.
Pia Jarman questioned how tall the antenna is. Harry Jewett stated
that the antenna itself is about 10' high with the over all
structure including the pole being 140' in height.
Harry Jewett showed a picture of the structure which will be free
standing.
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Steve Simonson stated it is like the structure that was approved
for Southwestern Bell in Freeway Manor with a different elevation
look.
Bob Andrews questioned if the antenna had to be approved through
the FAA due to the height and the need for a light on the top.
Steve Simonson advised that the FAA approval is the document that
was included in the Commissioners' packets.
Merwin Willman had a concern that with this being a free standing
structure will it be able to withstand high winds.
Harry Jewett stated that the structure at the top will be able to
withstand a wind load of a least 80 miles an hour. When they had
the hurricanes in Florida these structures were the only thing
standing. They usually sit on a drilled shaft depending on the
soil conditions they can be anywhere between 29' - 45'in depth, on
a 6' in diameter reenforced concrete. In a fail test the structure
would crumble at the top not at the base. If the structure were to
fall at the base there would be nothing else standing around it.
Mr. Jewett advised that the structure is designed not to fall over
due to the liability question.
Bob Andrews moved to approve the request from Lawrence Gill on
behalf of Cellular One Antenna for Site Plan Approval on FM 3009.
Merwin Willman seconded the motion, which carried with a unanimous
vote.
#11 CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request from Burch
Roofing Company for Sign Variance
Extension (PC #199/A-95)
Steve Simonson stated that a letter had been sent to him by Burch
Roofing, but he never received it. He was then sent another letter
with the current date requesting an extension on their sign
variance because their 6 month request had expired.
Randy Burch stated that the company had been very busy with the
hail damage that was recently received in the bad hail storm. Mr.
Burch explained that he was unaware that there was a time limit on
putting the sign up until he received the letter from the City.
Randy Burch advised that Burch Roofing has been in contact with Don
Holman on buying the building across from their building so they
can expand their parking. Unfortunately Mr. Holman is asking a
little bit more than Burch Roofing feels the property is worth. If
they can work a deal with Mr. Holman they would not need the sign
variance for the height of the sign. This is the reason they have
not at this time erected the sign not knowing if they will be able
to buy this property. They did not want to erect the sign in a
place that would not be visible in all directions or having to take
it down and move it if they were to buy the property next door.
Mr. Burch stated he also is going to attend the meeting on April
24, 1995 to see what will be happening with the widening of FM 78.
Mr. Burch mentioned that he is a long term Schertz resident and has
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plans of staying in the area and working with the City in his
business. At this time he is not sure what will be happening with
the sign with the widening of FM 78, with Mr. Holman and the
adjacent property. It is very expensive to erect the sign in
keeping with the regulations so at this time they are asking for an
extension until all the other options as stated have been resolved
so they can place the sign in an appropriate place.
David Richmond commented that he appreciates the request from Randy
Burch for wanting an extension and his reasoning. David Richmond
stated he is concerned now, and back when the first request for the
sign was asked, for the variance on the height and size. Not
knowing what is going to be happening with the widening of FM 78,
or the elevation of the road to be brought up to the railroad
tracks and so forth. Knowledge of that is germane to anything that
is to be done in the heart of downtown. David Richmond mentioned
that everyone on the Commission is concerned with the opportunity
of the widening of FM 78 on the improvements that can take place
with the general appearance of the main area of downtown Schertz.
David Richmond complimented Randy Burch on the improvements that
his business has done in the last several months to their property.
David Richmond stated that at this time he would not approve the
extension on the sign variance with the continued development that
is going to be taking place and to see what is going to happen with
the road improvements. After these improvements have taken place
the Commission, upon a request for a variance on the sign height
and size, could review the situation and make a recommendation at
that time.
Randy Burch advised that the sign is the shape of a roof and has
been squared out so the variance is not so much the square footage
of the sign as the height of the sign. Randy Burch mentioned that
his business has cleaned up their area considerably in the last few
months and invited the Commissioners to go and see for themselves
how the company has improved the area. Randy Burch stated that he
is not willing to erect the sign tomorrow. Until their company can
either work a deal with Mr. Holman on the property adjacent to
theirs and wait to see what is going to happen with the widening of
FM 78. The sign is not going to be out in front of the building
where the road is going to be a factor, but he does not want to
erect the sign and then have to move it. Because it is so
expensive to have to do this he is wanting to wait until the
improvements stated have been decided upon.
David Richmond stated that is what he was intending to say. It is
not that he is not in favor of his request on the sign extension.
He would like to wait and see what is going to happen with the
improvements on FM 78 that are going to take place. At that time
Mr. Burch may come before the Commission for a request for the
sign variance extension if need be.
Pia Jarman also agreed that for Mr. Burch's own benefit, due to the
cost of putting up the sign, to wait and see what improvements are
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going to take place and then at that time he could come back to the
Commission for a request.
Randy Burch stated if the Commission were to approve the extension
on the sign he had no intention of putting the sign up now. He was
still going to wait and evaluate the situation on the widening of
FM 78 improvements. He is not looking at degrading the City by
having a lot of signs to make it look like Pat Booker Road. He is
willing to wait and if needed, come back to the Commission for
a variance to the sign.
Bob Andrews mentioned that what he has done with the bright blue
landmark makes everyone aware of who the business is.
Randy Burch advised that they have rented out two places in their
building to an a/c company, an electrical company, and they now
have a construction company in the same building. They have
elected to allow businesses that are not going to create a lot of
traffic and trying to make it a little construction alley on the
property to get people to be able to go to one place for their home
improvements.
Steve Simonson commented that on April 24, 1995 there will be a
meeting at the high school cafeteria on the widening of FM 78.
They have shrunk the width of the road considerably from the
original request of 120' to 85' ROW width without losing any of the
frontage and still maintaining the five (5) lanes. The City will
not have to buy any of the buildings. The elevation will not be as
drastic as it looks. The preliminary plans are showing the
elevation to come to about were the pharmacy is, along with the
other side of FM 1518 being way out of the 100 year flood. It will
be a transition straight across the board from Bexar County to
Guadalupe County. Steve Simonson thanked Randy Burch for coming
before the Commission with his request
David Richmond moved to disapprove the request from Burch Roofing
for an extension on their sign variance, but to recognize that at
sometime in the future, given the City development, Mr. Burch may
present a similar request. Bob Andrews seconded the motion, which
carried with a unanimous vote.
X12 CONSIDER AND TARE APPROPRIATE ACTION: Request to Rezone
Approximately 14.57 Acres (Cottage/Life
style) from R-4 (Apartment/Multi-Family
Dwelling) to R-1 (Single Family/Dwelling)
(ZC #120)
Steve Simonson stated that the request is from the City. There was
an agreement with Cottage/Lifestyle if they did not develop within
6 months then the property would have another public hearing to
rezone back to the original zoning.
Bob Andrews moved to recommend to City Council to rezone 14.57
Acres (Cottage/Lifestyle) from R-4 (Apartment/Multi-Family) to R-1
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(Single Family/Dwelling). Tony Moreno seconded the motion which
carried with a unanimous vote.
X13 DISCUSSION: UDC Review
The Commission reviewed pages 125 - 135 with changes being made at
this time.
~9 GENERAL DISCUSSION:
Tony Moreno•
Tony Moreno stated he had no comments.
Bob Andrews•
Bob Andrews stated he had no comments.
Merwin Willman:
Merwin Willman mentioned that with the discussion on the Burch sign
maybe there needs to be a moratorium on all signs on FM 78 until
the widening is complete. A recommendation to City Council should
be made to the effect. Also in the sign ordinance there is a
statement that when the widening of FM 78 is complete all signs on
FM 78 along the railroad tracks will have to be removed. Steve
Simonson agreed that there was a time limit on the signs to be
removed upon the completion of FM 78. All the Commissioner's were
in agreement for this recommendation to City Council.
David Richmond questioned when Randy Burch added on to his parking
improvements did the City have to give him permission.
Steve Simonson stated he resurfaced his own land. Steve Simonson
advised that Randy Burch has been in his office many times. They
have gone out to his property to locate the various places that the
ROW could go. There is going to be a lot of surprised people
because at this time there is no difinite plan on the ROW. Steve
Simonson mentioned that he is hoping that a committee of citizens
and businesses will get started to begin looking at how we can
collectively as a City look at getting improvements on FM 78 from
Cibolo Creek on down to Dietz Creek.
Bob Andrews questioned if the recommendation for the City Council
will need to go on the agenda for the next meeting. Councilman Ken
Greenwald advised he would bring it up tomorrow night at the
workshop with the Council Members.
Merwin Willman suggested when and if Burch Roofing is to come back
on the sign variance the fee could be waived.
Bob Andrews felt by the time he gets ready to put up the sign he
doesn't feel he's going to need it.
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Merwin Willman mentioned that Woody's had their balloon back up.
David Richmond:
David Richmond thanked Steve Simonson for his very optimistic words
on HEB. David Richmond questioned since our last meeting we have
had the profusion of Deer Creek signs going up along FM 3009 and
are we aware of what the zoning is in Cibolo on that property which
is being advertised as business plats of 6 acres. If not, could we
find out what the property is zoned.
Steve Simonson stated that from Dietz Road to the entrance of Deer
Creek where you see the housing sub-division stop and it goes from
Dietz Road to the drainage ditch that bisects that land. At this
time we do not know what the zoning is but will find out. We are
hoping at this time someone does not come in with a 60' sign and
rotating lights.
Councilman Ken Greenwald:
Councilman Ken Greenwald advised that the opening of the BVYA had
700 plus children now registered to play ball. There are 56 teams
with 13 players per team.
Merwin Willman questioned the lights being turned on for such a
long time before sunset.
Councilman Ken Greenwald stated that by baseball rules they have to
be turned on prior to the start of an inning. This is at the
umpires discretion as to how soon to turn them on for safety
reasons.
Councilman Ken Greenwald reminded everyone to try and attend the
TXDOT meeting on April 24, 1995 in the high school cafeteria at
7:00 p.m. Until the final plans can be seen FM 78 is going to be
very expensive. The City by law is responsible for the ROW
drainage, curb and gutters, and in some cases storm sewer. You can
no longer run the storm sewer into the Creek.
Councilman Ken Greenwald advised that the Canyon Regional had
canceled their meeting due to legislative conflicts. The meeting
will be held tomorrow night with Mr. Bierschwale attending that
meeting. Hopefully there will be more information by the next
meeting.
Steve Simonson:
Steve Simonson showed the Commission on the zoning map a piece of
land by Woodland Oaks, Autumn Winds, Ashely Place, and Savannah
Square. The acreage is PUD with the original platting being
Sagemont. The land is now under contract to people that want to
redo the Master Plan for the PUD. It does not have to be rezoned
it has to be Re-Master Planned. It was not zoned and reverted. It
is considered Community zoning. In the new UDC book PUD is now
being omitted but this property is currently PUD under the
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ordinance. Under our current ordinances unless we approve of a new
Master Plan they can not build. They would have the follow the
existing Master Plan and they do not want to. What you have in
front of the property is 350' of Neighborhood Service Zoning with
all the rest of property being PUD. What they are proposing to do
is come in and build single family garden homes, and multi-family.
They may or may not want the Neighborhood Service. If they do not
want the NS they will have to rezone only the front 350'. The last
proposal would be to make this a gated community with only one
entrance and exit.
Bob Andrews added this being a high density closed gated community.
Steve Simonson stated that it is about 34 acres. This would be a
closed gated community with the entrance and exit being on FM 3009.
The deadend is into Hill View which now has an existing stub out
but it does not show as a straight through road. It does state in
the Master Plan as being stubbed out to Ashley Place but not to
this property.
Merwin Willman questioned on how many stub outs there are from
Woodland Oaks. Steve Simonson stated that there is only one.
Steve Simonson stated that there are two stub outs one to Olde Moss
and Daven Port into this area. The current Master Plan for Ashely
Place does not show a straight road. It has a jog out and then
back. Steve Simonson advised that a new Master Plan may be coming
very quickly and the Commission needs to view what the proposals
are going to be with the gated community, with this being what
people want.
Bob Andrews advised that a lot of people are buying into gated
communities for safety reasons. There is a subdivision off of
Judson Road where you drive up to the gate and telephone the person
you wish to visit. If they are home they will let you into the
community other wise you can not enter the area.
Steve Simonson mentioned that he has been approached by some people
in the Homeowners Association with Savannah Square requesting if
they can close off their community. Steve Simonson advised them
they would have to build a new subdivision to be able to keep it
closed.
Merwin Willman stated that he would like to have more information
available about gated subdivisions. Maybe going to the American
Planning Association an asking them for information. Steve
Simonson advised that he has books available to view on this
subject.
Bob Andrews advised that the PUD was put on the Master Plan because
that is what was approved at that time. Now it needs to be
reviewed on the new Master Plan to see if it is acceptable for that
PUD. If it is acceptable there will need to be no rezoning or
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public hearings it is either approved or disapproved by the
Planning and Zoning Commission.
Steve Simonson mentioned that all of the PUD's that were in the
80's except for Greenshire only had two (2) different zonings in
them. All PUD's are for multi use of three (3) or more. The
original Greenshire zoning had a Business, Single Family
Residential, and Multi-Family Residential. So when a new Master
Plan for Greenshire was brought in it was approved, basically that
is what they are requesting for this area. You may see this
request as early as your next meeting.
Steve Simonson questioned if Bob Andrews could get any more
information from San Antonio area if there is an explosion of this
type of community at this time. Bob Andrews advised that there is
no explosion the gated communities are there and people are very
interested in them. The people that are buying in these
communities are older and more settled. Up scale of $130,000 or
more for security reasons for the gated community. There are
different types of homes in these communities, but they do have two
(2) ways in and out.
Councilman Ken Greenwald mentioned that they have to have two (2)
entrances and exits for emergency purposes. The only problem is
that these people pay the same taxes but do not receive City
services.
Bob Andrews stated that you have a category of people that are
willing to pay a higher price for these homes, knowing that when
they punch in their number they are going to be safe. No one is
going to bother them or their property. Tony Moreno agreed with
Bob Andrews that there are people that want to feel safe in their
own community.
#10 ADJOURNMENT:
Bob Andrews moved to adjourn the meeting. David Richmond seconded
the motion, which carried with a unanimous vote.
Chairman Pia Jarman adjourned the meeting at 9:37 p.m.
The next regularly scheduled meeting is April 25, 1995.
Chair n, Planning and Zoning Commission
City of Schertz, Texas
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